>> THANK YOU, IN VEGAS.
THANK YOU.
MEANWHILE, THE FALLOUT CONTINUES
FROM THAT INFAMOUS CALL FOR THE
PRESIDENT AND THE FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT.
THIS SITUATION WORKED FOR THE OL
GUARDF OWNED GAS COMPANY IS A
SIGNIFICANT LIABILITY FOR JOE
BIDEN.
THERE'S A STORY HERE.
WE'VE TOLD SOME OF IT.
THERE'S MORE TO BE TOLD.
>> STILL WANT TO TAKE A CLOSER
LOOK.
TONIGHT, WHAT THE AUTHOR OF
"POWER GRAB," JASON CHAFFIS AND
HARRY LITMAN, WELCOME TO YOU
BOTH.
>> THANK YOU.
HE'S PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN ABOUT
THIS TOPIC FOR POLITICO AS WELL.
BUT TONIGHT, THE VICE PRESIDENT
SAYING IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.
HE SAID NO CREDIBLE OBJECTIVE
MEDIA SOURCE IS DIGGING IN TO
THIS.
>> WELL, MR. VOGEL, "THE NEW
YORK TIMES" AND POLITICO, ARE
INCREDIBLE ALONG THE WAY.
LOOK AT THE VIDEO UPDATE.
I JUST WANT TO WATCH THE
VIDEOTAPE OF JOE BIDEN TALKING
ABOUT HOW HE HELPED TO GET THE
PROSECUTOR DISMISSED.
HE HAD SIX HOURS.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, CALL
BARACK OBAMA.
THE FACT ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN,
BOTH IN CHINA, BUT ESPECIALLY IN
THE UKRAINE, DID HE OR DID HE
NOT MAKE $50,000 A MONTH.
WAS HE INVOLVED AND ENGAGED WITH
THIS COMPANY THAT SUDDENLY GOT
THESE CONTRACTS THAT APPEAR TO
BE DAYS OR JUST A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AFTER THE VICE PRESIDENT
VISITED?
>> NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
DIGGING INTO THIS STORY.
AND KEN VOGEL HAS A BIT OF A
STORY ON THAT AS WELL.
HERE ARE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
FROM HIM.
>> A THOUGHT EXERCISE AND
REPLACE JOE BIDEN WITH DONALD
TRUMP AND ERIC BIDEN WITH DONALD
TRUMP JR., WE PROBABLY WOULD BE
SEEING MORE COVERAGE OF THIS
STORY.
>> IS THAT FAIR?
>> WHAT HE SAID IN A STRAIGHT
WAY SIX DAYS AGO ON A SHOW.
THEN HE WROTE TWO DAYS AGO, AND
THIS IS HIS REAL REPORTING.
HE REITERATES, THERE'S NOTHING
HERE TO INDICATE -- NO EVIDENCE
INDICATES BIDEN HAS DONE
ANYTHING WRONG.
BIDEN ACTED IN ACCORD WITH THE
UKRAINE OPPOSITION, BUT ALSO THE
EU, THE UNITED STATES, ETC.
AND IMPORTANTLY, THIS ALL
HAPPENED OVER A YEAR AFTER THE
PROSECUTOR HAD DONE HIS
INVESTIGATION OF THE COMPANY
THAT HE WAS WORKING FOR.
WAS HE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING
THERE OR NOT?
YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT THE NOTION THAT ANYTHING CAN
STICK TO BIDEN IS FANCIFUL.
IT'S COMPLETE CONSPIRACY THEORY
STUFF.
>> IN THE MEANTIME, THERE'S BEEN
MANY PEOPLE WHO WROTE ON IT.
"NEW YORK TIMES," THE POLITICO
WROTE ABOUT IT.
AN AUTHOR THAT WENT AFTER
PRESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDE OF THE
AISLE HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS.
THERE'S MORE TO COME.
ANDREW McCARTHY, YOU KNOW HIM.
FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY HIMSELF
WROTE ABOUT IT.
HE CALLED IT A DOUBLE STANDARD.
HE SAID THIS IS THE WAY THE GAME
IS PLAYED.
WHEN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
LEANS ON WHICH HE SAID HAPPENED
IN 2016, THE DEMOCRATS SAY LOOK
HOW CORRUPT PAUL MANAFORT WAS.
WHEN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
GET IS ACCUSED, THEY SAY ABUSE
OF POWER, IMPEACH HIM.
>> CAN I SPEAK TO --
>> BUT THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU HAVE THE -- YOU HAVE THE
RADICAL LEFT HYPERVENTILATING,
THE RESISTANCE MOVEMENT, I
THINK, PUSHING NANCY PELOSI TO
PLACES WHERE PREVIOUSLY SHE
HASN'T WANTED TO GO.
BUT REMEMBER, THE DEMOCRATS
ALREADY FORESHADOWED THIS.
THEY FORESHADOWED THIS A LONG
TIME AGO THAT THIS IS EXACTLY
WHAT THEY'RE GOING DO IN THE
PLAYBOOK.
I THINK THE WAY THEY'RE TREATING
DONALD TRUMP IS ABHORRENT.
IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG TO HAVE
SOMEBODY WITHOUT FIRSTHAND
KNOWLEDGE AS A WHISTLEBLOWER TO
THE POINT WHERE THE SPEAKER IS
SAYING THERE'S A FORMAL
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
WHEN PEOPLE TALK, THEY DON'T
KNOW WHO THE WHISTLEBLOWER IS
AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED TO
ANYBODY WHO HAS FIRSTHAND
KNOWLEDGE COMPARED TO JOE BIDEN
WHO'S ON VIDEOTAPE BRAGGING
ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE TWISTED
THE ARMS OF THE UKRAINE
GOVERNMENT TO GET RID OF THE
PROSECUTOR THAT JUST HAPPENED TO
BE LOOKING AT THE COMPANY THAT
HIS SON IS ULTIMATELY INVOLVED
IN?
COME ON?
>> YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE
DOUBLE STANDARD.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
CONGRESSMAN'S FACTS.
HE WAS NOT LOOKING AT AND
SHOWING ANYTHING ABOUT THE
COMPANY THAT HAD HAPPENED A YEAR
BEFORE.
AND, AGAIN, THE PREMISE OF
McCARTHY IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
BIDEN IS ACTING AT THE THE
BEHEST OF THE INTERNATIONAL
COMMUNITY, NOT FOR HIS OWN
PURPOSES.
BUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER, QUICKLY.
I'M A WHISTLEBLOWER.
>> COME ON, IT HAPPENED.
>> EXCUSE ME, CONGRESSMAN.
IT'S -- I'M SPEAKING NOW.
I'M A WHISTLEBLOWER WHERE IT'S
ROUTINE FOR WHISTLEBLOWERS TO
COME FORWARD WITH INFORMATION
THAT'S SECOND HAND, THIRD HAND,
THAT'S NOT --
>> THAT DIDN'T USED TO BE THE
POLICY IN THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY.
>> IT IS.
>> IT DIDN'T USED TO BE.
>> YOU HAVE TO ACCESS THE
EVIDENCE, OF COURSE.
THE NOTION THAT IT'S SECOND
HAND,ITS A ROUTINE FACT ABOUT
WHISTLEBLOWER ACCUSATIONS.