if you join hey guys how's it going today today we're gonna take a look at
the making of Star Wars Return of the Jedi
chapter 3 story conference summary and in this video we're gonna talk about how
Obi 1 is more powerful than the Emperor alright let's get to it
so did you ever wonder why Darth Vader's motivation seemed to shift between
Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi in Empire he wanted to turn Luke to
the dark side so together they could take on the Emperor but by return he was
more than willing to turn his son over to his master so what changed and what
do I mean about obi-wan being more powerful than the Emperor well we might
get some answers in this transcript that I've been going through where Lucas and
his director writer and producer are crafting Episode six together Lawrence
Kasdan says what is it that Vader wants and George Lucas responds Vader's plot
is to convert Luke to the dark side make him an ally and then topple the emperor
at this point he and the Emperor want to turn Luke to the dark side I don't think
Vader would care whether he turned Luke to the dark side or if the Emperor
turned him because he feels that once Luke has turned he can use him for his
ally the Emperor and Vader are in total agreement about what's going to happen
they both want to get ahold of Luke they both want him converted to the dark side
the emperor to replace Vader and Vader to replace the Emperor they are perfect
bad guys Kazanjian says wouldn't Vader want to get to Luke before the Emperor
for that reason you just stated before the emperor can get to Luke and throw
Vader out Lucas says let's say that Luke goes to the Emperor and pretends to
become part of the dark side another way to get around this is to imply that Ben
can cloud the mind of the Emperor the thing I like about that is it makes true
what been said before sacrificing himself when he says I will become even
more powerful than you can possibly imagine the way he becomes even more
powerful is that he becomes a part of the force in that way he's able to
short-circuit just enough of their visions so they don't quite know what is
going on as much as they normally would mark and says they think that they do
Lucas says and that's more powerful he could distort the future you have to
really lay down the rules that's a rule that I laid down early on the Emperor
doesn't have Jedi powers does he well he's like Yoda Yoda isn't a Jedi the
Emperor isn't a Jedi Yoda has mystical powers and it's the same thing with the
Emperor he's like the grand priest but he's not
chief of the tribe Jedi aren't the Chiefs they're the Warriors who go out
and fight with their swords the Emperor and Yoda are the priests who are the
spiritual Chiefs they have powers that are much stronger I don't like the idea
of Vader saying to Luke come on over to our side let's forget what Vader is
really trying to do kill the Emperor that's what Vader said at the end of
Empire I know but I don't think at this point we should bring up that this plot
is to get rid of the Emperor it's going to foretell in an oblique way that he's
going to kill the Emperor the way to do it here is to make Vader evil and
terrible and turn his son in and they go before the Emperor and they have a fight
you're willing now to drop Vader's explicit plan it's there implicitly it
doesn't have to be an explicit plan it has to be what is operating in the
characters head what is operating in Vader's head when he brings Luke to the
Emperor what is operating in his head is the Emperor will turn Luke to the dark
side because I can't do it because I am not strong enough he will
turn Luke and then I will be able to join with Luke and destroy the Emperor
join with Luke and eventually turn him to destroy the Emperor once he is on the
dark side then it will be easy then we are a team then we are father and son
but it is never spoken Vader doesn't realize that the emperor
wants to replace him does he now know about the sister who the Emperor no well
the trouble is if you bring it up there then you deal with Vader not knowing so
did Lucas answer the question to your satisfaction of why Vader wouldn't try
to get to Luke first at one point Lucas says that both Vader and the Emperor
want Luke to help defeat each other but then later he says Vader doesn't realize
that his master wants Luke to replace him so that's a bit contradictory do you
agree with George that if Vader was still open to Luke about wanting to kill
the Emperor that it would give away his sacrifice at the end and would Vader
think he is not powerful enough to turn his son I mean if anyone could it would
be Vader for the same reason it could only be Luke that was capable of turning
him back to the light they're bound as father and son if the emperor had turned
Luke would the younger Skywalker have turned on his dad
or on the Emperor if he hadn't held back after he defeated Vader and instead had
given in to his anger Luke would have killed Vader and become the Emperor's
new apprentice a danger Vader must have been aware of so for me at least I don't
think George Lucas quite answered the question in full detail but it is
interesting about how obi-wan was having become so powerful that he could blind
the Emperor's vision I mean that's like next-level and I don't think we ever
thought obi-wan could have been on that level
George kinds have used the concept and the prequels except it was the rise of
the darkside that clouded the Jedi's vision now next I'm gonna make a video
about Yoda not being a Jedi and how he didn't think that he was but it's
interesting to see how the Emperor was supposed to be similar to Yoda in that
regard both more priests like figures and reflections of each other not
warriors which explains why the emperor referred to Luke's lightsaber as a Jedi
weapon but that changed with the prequels of course now City has used a
lightsaber just to make fun of the Jedi and this is from legends he didn't
actually care but he mastered it so well that he mastered all seven forms of
lightsaber combat think about it he's that much of a troll he'd just mastered
it so that he could make fun of them both he and Yoda knew how to wield a
lightsaber so what do you guys think would you have preferred phaidor's
motives were more in tune with what we got an empire do you think it would have
been cool if obi-wan had clouded the Emperor's mind making him just as or
maybe more powerful now than the Emperor if he can meddle with his mind and
should Yoda and the Emperor never have used a lightsaber
I think they should always use lightsabers because lightsabers are just
the coolest thing all right guys hope you enjoyed this one I'll cover more
from this type of book and the Empire Strikes Back one as well as the new hope
and attack of the clones and the Phantom Menace because I've covered episode 3
Revenge of the Sith see you in the next video until then remember the force will
be with you always
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