Hey, Charles.
It's cool to meet you.
It's very cool to meet you.
We almost met a long time ago--
Where?
But I didn't have--
the Stand Up To Cancer event.
Uh huh.
And I didn't know if you were in a good mood or a bad mood,
so I was scared to walk up to you.
Uh huh.
I'm always in a good mood.
Yeah, OK.
This is really cool for me.
I've been a big fan.
And when they said I was coming on here,
thank you for having me.
Oh, thanks so much.
I can't believe you-- this is the first time.
I don't know why.
Yeah, they always put me on all the guy shows,
I want to be on the show with you.
Yeah, thanks.
You're a lot smarter and funner than those guys.
Yeah.
Those, guys.
I don't know who you're talking about, but yeah!
You know we have a tradition here.
If it's your first time on the show,
we must show shirtless photos of you.
It's just what happens.
Please be from the 80's.
I miss the good old days.
Yeah.
I miss the good old days, you could take your shirt off
in public.
Uh huh.
I miss the 80's.
Yeah.
That's so true.
Everybody did walk around with no shirt.
Especially in the 60's.
A lot of people walked around with no shirts.
Yeah.
I used to walk around without a shirt.
It's so bad now, even when I'm home I keep a shirt on.
Yeah, is that right?
You are so funny.
You have strong opinions.
You have a relationship with Shaquille, Shaq,
that is very interesting.
Sometimes, you love him, sometimes you don't.
Today, how do you feel about him?
I love the big fella.
He is-- he's a funny guy.
But he's one of those guys, He want to jab you,
but he can't take the jab.
Uh huh.
So, he got thinner skin than Flat Stanley, I tell him.
Like, he wants to make fun of you,
but you cannot make fun of him.
And once I know I got him, I'm just going to keep digging in.
Yeah.
But you know what?
A love the big fella.
He's fun to work with.
His mom is one of the most important people in my life.
His mom and my mom and another lady named Martha Korman,
were best friends.
And when my mom passed away a couple of years--
they were best friends for, like, 30 years.
And when my mom passed away a couple of years ago,
his mom came and spent her last few days with my mom.
That's how long we've been friends.
Oh wow.
Yeah, but I love giving him a hard time on television.
Well, he loves giving you a hard time, too.
So he sent us this.
Oh, lord.
Hey, Chucky, it's your friend Shaq.
Have fun with the beautiful, gorgeous Ellen today.
Don't worry, she's still going to love me more after the show.
And make sure you don't break your chair when you sit on it.
Give Ellen a big hug from me, Chuck.
Love you, Ellen.
I hate you, Chuck.
He is so much fun.
He's a big teddy bear.
Every time he's here, he's fun.
So we love him, too.
You-- I have to say thank you, because you
have been an advocate for LGBTQ rights for a long, long time.
Long before many, many people.
Years back, you were going to do an NBA all-star game--
In Charlotte.
And you were thinking that you should move it,
because of the bathroom bills.
Well, I hated the bathroom bill, so I went to my boss.
I said, hey, boss, I'm going to sit out the all-star game.
I don't want to make, you know, I
don't want to take away from the all-star game,
but I said I'm going to sit out the all-star game.
He says, you can't sit out the all-star game.
You're our biggest star.
I said, well, I got to make a stand against discrimination.
He said, let me talk to the NBA.
And Adam Silver, who's a great commissioner,
moved the game out of Charlotte.
And it was a really nice gesture for the NBA,
because you know, I think anytime you're black,
you've got to stand up for other people.
Because you-- black people know what discrimination is like.
And if you're in a position of power,
you've got to always stand up against discrimination.
And I've been blessed, man.
And I'm never going to sit back and let discrimination
happen on my watch.
So true.
I mean, that's how I feel about any discrimination at all,
any inequality.
It's like, you know, for you to think that you-- somehow,
they'll never come after you for something, it's just wrong.
I want to ask you your opinion on some things,
because you have strong opinions, and I found out some.
First of all, I know that what would surprise a lot of people
is you love vacuum cleaners.
You love--
It's more like I'm a sucker for infomercials.
Like, every time I'm watching television,
there's a new, more powerful vacuum cleaner coming out.
I have to go get it.
Yeah.
I do.
I gotta have it.
They make fun of me at the Home Depot and Lowe's.
They're like, what are you doing with all this CLR?
And I was like, I scrub my toilet with it all the time.
I never want the rings to get in the toilet.
Mm-hmm.
But any type--
I love to clean.
All right, well, we know that that's
it's a while away before you retire.
But you're going to need a lot of cleaning supplies
once you retire, to clean.
So we got you-- and I'm sure they'll be updated,
let's bring out what we have for him right now.
We have--
This is every vacuum cleaner we've ever
given away on the show.
Now, you tell me, do you already have all these?
I don't see The Shark.
OK.
We gotta get you The Shark.
But that little lazy thing over there, that you let vacuum
cleaner yourself, you just lazy if you use that thing.
I agree, I agree.
You're just lazy.
All right.
Yeah, I agree.
And that's boring to just let that go around.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll tell you what, The Shark Lift-Away is pretty good, too.
Yeah?
Good.
All right, good.
Well, those are all yours.
Take what you want, leave what you don't want,
and I'll take the other ones.
All right, one of the commentators on Inside the NBA
suggested that we scare you, but we're not going to scare you.
This is not the table we scare--
but someone, I'm not going to say who,
but someone said we should scare you.
And we're not going to do it.
But we'll tell you who, later.
We're going to take a break, and we
get to play a game called Five Second Rule when we come back.
OK.
That'll be fun.
All right.