so back at computex when intel did that
weird demo on stage where they had this
like
this like chilled liquid cooled 28
core overclocked processor i don't think
anyone could figure out what exactly it
was they were trying to accomplish
even intel themselves didn't seem to
know what was going on because that same
cpu although not cooled by chilled
liquid
was actually on display the next day
with their board partners like asus only
to be quickly
yanked away and then we haven't heard
anything about it since then
except for a leaked road map that seems
to suggest
that intel is planning what appears to
be a
knee-jerk reaction to amd's 32 core
threadripper 2.
a 28 core based on as far as we can tell
a
similar platform to their existing xeon
platinum now
i don't know what segment they're going
to target with this workstation
enthusiast people with more money than
brains but whatever it is
i realized something we actually have
in our hands both the 32 court
redripper 2 and intel xeon platinum 8180
which rumor has it will be very similar
to the upcoming enthusiast chip albeit
without overclocking
so today we are gonna put them head to
head
as a preview of the ultimate heavyweight
showdown of
cpus we're not sure who is going to buy
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so while ivan puts the finishing touch
on our lga 3647 bench over there i'm
going to walk you through what our
otherwise as identical as we can get
them test rigs
so in here we've got a threadripper 32
core
we've got a knock to a 120 millimeter
tower cooler we've got a zenith extreme
motherboard with
what i believe is 32 gigs of ram 32 gigs
right
yeah it should be and then we've got a
gtx 1080
uh samsung 840 pro ssd and an rm850i
power supply now bear in mind that any
results that we show you guys for this
guy
have to be taken with a significant
grain of salt because
intel will have at least i think a
couple of months to tune
the consumer version of this before you
would ever be able to buy one
not that most people would ever be able
to buy one like this is 10 grand
so we don't know how much or how little
they're planning to slash the price
compared to the pro one but like
it ain't gonna be cheap so this guy
right here
has got uh same power supply same cooler
sort of except it's like a modified
version that works with
lga 3647 thank you noctua for sending
that over
we've got them both hooked up to power
meters and then it's running in asus
z11 pau 12. it's got the same geforce
gtx 1080 founders edition
and then it is of course running a xeon
platinum 8180 now
the ram this is something that could
affect our results but we had to use
what's compatible with our cpu
so this is ddr4 2666
ecc memory the same stuff from our six
workstations one cpu project
hey it's done here we go
is this broken this cpu what what
what what okay adding another boulder
sized grain of salt
to this whole experience is that this
latest bios
we just flashed no longer supports the
8180 cpu
probably if i had to guess because of
its massive 205
watt tdp so we're gonna have to go
back in time to another bios in order to
run our comparison
and four hours later we finally have the
solution
you know what screw it we're just gonna
run
we're just gonna run the light of a
thousand suns directly into ivan's eyes
sorry about that anyway we're none of
the bios's we tried worked and we
downloaded like
one of the earliest ones that should
have been the same as what we had and it
was corrupt right off asus
whatever it doesn't matter point is
we're just using our dual socket board
with a single cpu where the only real
consideration
performance wise is we have to make sure
we use a pci express slot that is
connected to that socket
so everything's hunky dory this is
effectively the same
apples-ish to apples-ish comparison and
we are ready to go so naturally i'm sure
the first thing you guys are going to
want to see
after the task manager porn 56 threads
on this one
64 threads on this one it's probably
gonna be cinebench right
it's gotta be cinebench boom
who will finish first
wow those are both super fast but one of
them
looks a little faster one of them looks
a fair bit faster
whoa amd is a good
20 percent ahead which makes sense
because even
though thread ripper 2's performance per
clock
is lower than intel's sky lake
architecture
they do have a core advantage so they
have four more cores
and watch this we're going to go ahead
we're going to run the test again
and we're going to have a look at what
our clock speeds are while they're going
so you can see here
amd is turboing up higher when you're
hitting all the cores
compared to intel so round one
goes to the threadripper 2990wx
test number two the v-ray benchmark from
chaos group so
we're running the cpu benchmark here
here we go our amd processor is pinned
our intel processor is pinned
amd's looking pretty good here too wow
and done
okay no matter which one of these things
you buy
you're gonna be like going super fast
and three seconds doesn't seem like a
lot of difference
but three seconds out of thirty is ten
percent faster
for thread ripper two this is great
tell us more about your gear are you
overclocking liquid cooling or anything
else ingenious for getting a performance
boost
does it show that every time or is it
just when you're like
bananas i don't think hey anthony
you ever seen this in the v-ray
benchmark
it did it on both of these i wonder if
there's some kind of a threshold
clearly that's a tailored message yeah
no we're not doing anything ingenious
just spending lots of money
so for our blender test we're going to
be rendering the classroom
scene and this one will probably
actually take a couple minutes so we'll
come back in just a moment here
man that's a lot of cores it's beautiful
you can even just feel the heat coming
off these things
this does seem like a good opportunity
to remind you guys though
that this is not the actual product this
is just the closest thing that we have
to it now
this is cool though compared to that
burn test we were running before
it's turboing much higher in real world
applications
even though the usage is 100 so it looks
like they might be detecting
stress testing applications and
throttling down anyway so that's
interesting to know terms of power
consumption this is one area where intel
is looking a little bit better
our threadripper 2 machine is pulling
380 watts from the wall remember
this is before we've even touched the
gpu and this is with no overclocking on
either of them
because our xeon won't overclock whereas
we don't know what intel's planning to
do with the real chip that's coming
and then intel's pulling about 265 watts
it's crazy they both feel like space
heaters you know
with the the fancy even with these fans
running at full speed and these are nice
fans
oh boy this is not
looking amazing for intel right now
thread ripper 2 already chewed through
the first segment of the test and i
think it's done
wow
just under five minutes for
classroom
whereas intel we're at 5 15.
and it hasn't even finished the initial
render
5.45
i don't think i ever thought i would see
it again
amd's top of the line versus intel's top
of the line
and it just being a
a blowout so that concludes the
productivity segment of our testing and
now we're going to do what neither intel
intel nor amd is going to be
particularly stoked on
we're going to fire up some games so
starting with cs go
well if cs goes anything to go by intel
looks like they're going to have a bit
better of a time when it comes to gaming
with that said csgo is
known to heavily favor intel's current
chips versus
amd's uh zen-based chips oh boy
average frame rate 310.21
versus 297.85 that doesn't seem right
because this was so much higher
hex i have another bite yeah i don't
know what just happened there
there's like there's no way okay well
take those results with
even more salt than the rest of this
video because there's no way that's
right that doesn't make any sense
all right our test is done
we can go ahead and quit the game okay
so these are more like the numbers we
were expecting to see in cs go
that brings us to our final game shadow
of the tomb raider
how to benchmark on the same account
with two pcs at once
you gotta do the ethernet cable shuffle
it goes like this
ah a game
here we go
now this is closer this is really close
with all these character models intel is
actually enjoying a pretty significant
advantage
average fps 100 average fps 87
so a significant advantage but
it should be noted that
a gaming advantage from one of these
cpus to the other
is not particularly meaningful if you
wanted to game
you would run out and you would buy a
you know secondhand 7700k and overclock
the snot out of it
oh right thermals we're not done yet
so we already have a pretty good idea of
what we're going to see here simply
because
the power consumption on intel's
platform was so much lower
yeah so this is consistent with what we
saw before with intel's course coming in
about five degrees lower
so there you have it guys i said it
before but it bears repeating
take everything you saw here with a
grain of salt because we don't know what
if anything
intel will change about the real product
that they're supposedly coming out with
i mean something like an increase to the
all core boost frequencies
could make a significant difference to
the results that we got today
but what it looks like for now
is that for the first time in over a
decade
in a pure who's got the biggest
willy competition because i don't know
that we would necessarily put a
two thumbs up recommendation behind
either of these depending on pricing
amd might have the bigger willie
who to thunk it and this will measuring
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