this idea of leadership being subtle it's not as satisfying as people want it
to to be and they want this thing where it's loud and spotlights on you and you
jump in and you mean where your ego gets completely yeah man and you want to look
around and and and you're welcome the subtlety of that in all the examples you
go through it's it's everywhere in leadership is the subtlety of it and
that really comes from part of it comes from experience but it's also
recognizing what are other people going through before you make a decision this
reminds me of something we talked about early on this podcast this podcast was
you know I was saying listen if you're doing it right you're winning a battle
and the other person doesn't even know that there was a battle going on right
you want it and and then you have to you have to control your ego enough that you
don't say look I just want you to even know it because then you just threw it
out the window same thing here if you're really doing
leadership well the team barely even knows that you're leading them they can
barely even feel it like they and it's like this unseen forces there they kind
of know but they almost feel it's their own force and they're making things
happen that they think are their own things and all you're doing is you
you're you're being so subtle that they barely even know that they're being led
and that is optimal now you do have to be careful because people have to people
have to undo that so much that they don't recognize you as the leader
because now there's gonna be times when they look to turn to someone and they
don't turn to you right which can be a problem so we have to be a little bit
careful but that is so rare that you could actually pull that off and the
reason it's rare to pull that off is because teams and organizations and
people trying to get things done require leadership yeah they require times when
the leaders known and so those times are enough few and far between if it's seven
like we talked about on the last pot guys if it's seven times in every three
years this is there anyone that's walking around like well you know I
doubt Jacko's you using him seem like he knows what's going on anymore like
there's no one walking saying that but the leadership is subtle
it's like mmm we seem to be man we're doing good what's going on here this
this is working out nice wow this is cool
no one's going like hey well I'm ready to just I'm doing all this myself
yeah and that's the way you want it to be you want to win without them knowing
you're fighting and you want to lead without them barely even know knowing
that you're leading and the biggest hardest part of that to do in both those
cases is put your ego and check enough that you can that you can win without
gloating and that you can lead without credit that's what you want I'm gonna
continue on here when someone else wouldn't step up quickly it was usually
because no one else had noticed that there was a leadership vacuum they
wouldn't notice because they were not detached their minds were absorbed in
the situation since I practiced being detached I wasn't lost in the details of
what was going on I was mentally in a different place looking at the scenario
unfold from a virtual distance which allowed me to see problems more quickly
that still doesn't mean I would jump right in by letting a little more time
pass by letting that leadership void linger just a little bit longer everyone
else would begin to notice it they would recognize there was a problem since that
time past and now everyone else knew there was a problem when I gave orders
on how to solve it people would listen and they would execute another reason to
pause before jumping into a leadership vacuum as soon as you see it is to make
sure that no one else is jumping in there if two people step in to fill a
leadership void at the same time they usually bump into each other when they
get there and then while the problem is growing they have to take precious time
to sort out which person is actually gonna lead and which one is gonna stand
down and if egos clashed at that moment we're
gonna have a bigger problem I would rather avoid that if someone
else is going to step in with a plan it's fine with me when I see the void I
pause look around assess if anyone else is going to step up and lead while I do
this problem grows pretty much very soon
everyone notices the problem I see that and then step up and make a call a call
that everyone know needs to be made now what this is a real obvious answer but
it's not so obvious when you're in the heat of the moment something's going on
and I make a call an echo makes a call at the same time what do I do
let me leave immediately defer alright hey cool I got you I mean as long I
assess your plan and a half a second and go good enough all right cool I got you
your right go yeah you gotta be like pretty aggressive with that letting them
lead cuz you know like you know like you're going to the supermarket right
and then you're walking in and you're about to hit the entrance door boom and
someone else is coming with you know they're hitting the ancient store at the
exact same time seams ain't part of your team our unknown unknown or whatever no
no unknown yeah I guess unknown but whatever yeah unknown this is where it
would happen the most with a stranger then you're like oh you're polite guy
right let him go but they're just as polite as you so they're like no no you
go no no you go and then you guys both decide okay let's not play this game
I'll go but you both decided at the same time so you guys both going now you're
at state step one again you seem sane so what I would do okay I'm not saying
either one good comment today but but understand it kind of seems like the
same thing different is this a different level it is it is the same thing where
both people are going on I'm gonna make a call and and that is why yes you're
right that's why even when I did this for second role play I was like you're
right you got it go like I'm gonna make it that clear yeah yeah I feel that way
too like if someone's like like nope you go like straight up nope you go if they
have like this weird aggressive sort of way I'm being I will be way more
compelled to go so you're saying or if it's like a lot
of times it's like with a friend who you're just not quite as close with them
so there's kind of just you're still trying to be polite I'll just push them
in we might want to we might want to do a podcast on that like just that right
just supermarket entries
maybe