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David: All right, we're back on the show. Louis, I have some stories you're going to
like that we're going to be talking about on the bonus show. Number one, there's the
story about 200 students that admitted cheating after this online rant from a professor. Louis:
I heard about that. David: It's an incredible story, and we'll talk about it in detail on
the bonus show. I will also reveal an instance where I actually cheated on something. I won't
say where it was or what it was, I'll just say it was a test, Louis knows about it, I'll
tell you about it on the bonus show. We'll also talk about this insane situation where...
a Thai Buddhist temple was the location of 2000 fetuses that were found, absolutely horrific
story, and plenty more on the bonus show. And while we're at it, a few new members I
want to say hello to, Louis. Nathan D., Carlos M., Albert W., Jeremy H., and several other
new members on the David Pakman membership program. Of course, the website, you know
what it is, Louis, by now, it's HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com/membership" www.DavidPakman.com/membership
What do we want to get to first? I kind of want to talk about Food Inc. Louis: Sure.
David: I watched this movie the other day, I know that it's been out for a while. I just
watched it the other day, and I've got some video that we can just run without the audio,
hopefully, in the background. And I was watching this movie, and first of all, I... number
one, I went into it already assuming that I was going to be kind of grossed out from
the slaughter scenes that were probably included in it. It actually isn't that bad, in that
sense. They don't really show that much in general... as much as they could, certainly.
Louis: Right. Other documentaries have, however. Yeah. David: That they show a lot more. Yeah.
So I'm watching it, and there's this whole thing with the chickens and how they... I'm
not a vegetarian, by the way, how they keep the chickens, and they're just, it's so crowded.
And when they first put them in there as little babies, there's plenty of room, but as we're
seeing, our TV viewers are seeing now, once they actually get to full size, there's just
no room for them to even move. Many of them die, they're just grabbed and tossed out basically
in the trash. They're actually so big, and as you can see on the screen right now, they're
putting weight on so much faster than their leg muscles can support it that a lot of these
chickens can't even walk by the time that they're slaughtered. It's really sickening,
is it not? Louis: It's pretty gross, but I had already been exposed to all of this stuff.
The stuff that I found the most interesting was just the money aspect, the economic aspect
of the food industry. David: Well, there were a number of different things. Number one,
just to finish on this chicken thing, is that the way that chickens used to be housed, and
the ones we're looking at now are the only people that actually allowed the cameras in,
they actually have windows in where they... in their henhouses, the chicken coops or whatever
these are called. Some of the companies will actually say you need to upgrade to the ones
where you can't... there's no light, and you can stack the chickens up, essentially, and
there's just a lot more... you can fit a lot more chickens in. And you know what? If you
don't do it, we're going to cut off your funding. And that was just incredible because a lot
of these farms, they're making, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollar investments
to even be able to afford these things, and at the whim of the four or five companies
that control the chicken industry, you can just absolutely go out of business if they
cut one of those contracts. So that was one aspect. Then there was just the treatment
of a lot of the other livestock. I'm not a big... I don't keep Kosher, but I'm not a
big pork guy. And the way that the pigs are being treated and slaughtered, that also...
I mean, just a lot of it was pretty sickening. But then, you're right, we get to the other
issue, Louis, which is the money issue, and there were a lot of interesting things there.
Number one, it was interesting the influence of the corn lobby on everything. I mean, sometimes
when you... if you go to a supermarket and you just see, if you look at price per calories,
right? So where can you get the most calories per dollar? Obviously if you look at fresh
produce compared to cereal, you're going to get a lot more calories for each dollar that
you spend on the cereal. But the same thing is true with chips, and the same thing is
true with a lot of other foods. And it's not because those foods are necessarily cheaper
to produce, but it's because of the corn... what would you even call it? Corn components
that are in there. Louis: Content, yeah. David: That many people don't know about. And it
can be corn syrup or it could be actual corn, but there's many other things that go in there.
The production of that is highly subsidized, so that is what is making it so much less
expensive. Louis: Right. Corn that is, you know, mass-produced... David: Right. Louis:
Corn's very easy to grow and can be stored for a very long period of time. David: That's
right. Louis: Corn that can be broken down into countless different things that are probably
in 90% of what you buy in terms of food in the grocery store. David: That's exactly right.
Louis: And the corn is also fed to all the chickens and cows. David: That's exactly right.
Which certainly, with chickens I'm not as familiar, but I know that with cows, cows
are not going to do the best with a corn diet. Louis: Right. David: I mean, certainly...
I know just being from Argentina that there, it's all... everything is grass-fed. Louis:
Right. David: And it's possible that, I'm getting a maybe, that there are now some places
that, because of the money aspect, even there the influence of the corn is affecting, is
that what you're indicating there? But the tradition is that you feed grass. Now, again,
what's the reason to go to corn? Well, you need a lot of acreage to feed grass all the
time, whereas you can just get the corn shipped in and you can have all the cows much closer
together. Again, the treatment of the livestock. And also, what was incredibly horrific to
me, was the treatment of a lot of the people working in the industry. A lot of the people
working just butchering pigs, it's dangerous in the sense of contamination, in the sense
of the antibiotics that you're exposed to. I mean, one of the people that was interviewed
said the doctor can't give them antibiotics anymore. Because of what is given to the animals,
their exposure to it has made them completely immune to the effect of antibiotics. Louis:
Or sometimes are allergic to antibiotics. David: Or allergic altogether. And then you
have the illegal immigration. Obviously, many illegal immigrants are working in these factories.
And who is being raided in the middle of the night? The illegal immigrants, not the companies
that are doing the hiring, which, hey, we hear from many, many conservatives we need
to start going after those that are doing the hiring. The food industry would be a great
place to start, ladies and gentlemen. That's for sure. And some people said when they saw
this, they turned to vegetarianism. Like I said, I'm not a vegetarian. My girlfriend
is a vegetarian. And when I see this, I don't say, "I can never eat meat again," but it
certainly affects me. I can't say it doesn't affect me. Louis: Right, right. I've seen
a lot of it, and I guess I'm kind of desensitized to it. But I can easily see how someone who'd
never been exposed to it could... David: It's not that I haven't been exposed to it... Louis:
Right, right. David: But it's just the pervasive nature of you can't get away from it. Even
if you're getting burgers from your local place, it's possible, it's likely that those
burgers, number one, came from a very similar place as to where many of the chain places
are getting their meat, and number two, they have this meat filler powder in it that has
been sterilized with ammonia to prevent I don't remember what it is from breaking out.
Louis: Yeah. Crazy. David: That may just be mixed in. And you just don't know, there really
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