Tessa ended up figuring out
that she could call CPS on Theresa.
Tessa has tried numerous times
to manipulate me and threaten me
that if I called CPS she would lie to them.
She will say that I have hit her or assaulted her,
then DHS has to come out and do an investigation.
My sister has a child that does know how
to manipulate her.
How does she deal with a child like that?
Okay, Theresa claims her 16 year old daughter, Tessa,
has attacked her over a hundred times,
assaulted her 67-year-old mother, Bonnie,
and fled to another state in July.
Says she also attacks her twin brother.
Hits him, scratches him, bangs on the door.
Just completely out of control.
Now, Tessa gave my team what she claims is proof of one
of the many ways her mother has abandoned her.
Take a look.
What that doesn't show is that for many, many times
before this, I'd asked her.
Okay, here's the deal.
The bottom line is, if I'm in a position where we're
all going to be homeless, and her room is the only one
legally that is able to be rented out
because my son has been in a separate room in the garage
for several years.
So Tessa had the better of the rooms.
The fact is is that we were all going to be homeless
if I didn't do something.
I asked her very nicely, I told her it was temporary.
She could be in my room, she could stay in my room.
That wasn't good enough.
Nothing is ever good enough for my daughter.
That's not what I wanted to do,
but the fact is is that we were all going to be homeless.
It wasn't a permanent situation.
It was a temporary situation.
How do you think she got to be the way she is?
I think she got to be the way that she is because,
through the years, I've noticed since a young age that
there was something different.
If I'm such a bad mom, then I would have two kids doing
the exact same thing.
I have twins that are the exact same age,
they've been raised the exact same way.
I don't have those issues with my son.
My son has been victimized over and over and over
and over by my daughter.
Are you going to answer my question?
How do I think that she got this way?
Yeah.
I think that she got this way by
her not being accountable for her actions.
She is so good at manipulating people and the situation.
She bats her eyes and then it's,
"Oh Poor Tessa, poor Tessa."
Her, she doesn't live this on a daily basis.
Wait a minute, we're not talking about her.
I'm asking you a question.
You can't deflect with me.
I'm like a dog with a bone.
(chuckling)
I asked you how you think she got to be this way.
I'm trying to analyze this situation.
I'm problem solving here, I don't care about blame.
I'm trying to problem solve here.
And I asked you how you think she got to be this way.
You said I have two children, identical,
born at the same time, grew up the same,
treated the same, which I reject all of that,
except the fact they were both born
at roughly the same time.
Kids don't have the same experience growing up together.
They have very different experiences growing up together.
So I reject that.
But that's what you said.
But then you said she got this way
because she's not accountable.
Who's job is it to hold her accountable?
I have held her accountable, Dr. Phil.
Oh, so what you said isn't true?
No, what I'm saying is that the normal methods
of trying to deal with this child have not worked.
The normal things of discipline, time out,
taking things away, that type of thing, do not work.
She has thrown temper tantrums to the point that literally
you have to physically hold her for her to calm down.
And I'm asking you why do you think that is?
I don't know, that's why I'm here.
I don't know because obviously, there's something
different between the two kids.
If I've raised them the exactly the same--
But you haven't.
I have. No, you haven't.
I feel I have. But you haven't.
(chuckling)
Kids are different.
Now, come on, you know kids are different.
One's a boy, one's a girl.
I mean, there are genetic differences.
They react differently to the environment,
you react differently to them.
There's nothing wrong with that,
it's just that they're different.
They're two individuals.
They have different personalities,
they have a different reactivity,
they have different personalities,
they're just different.