I am certainly not a pope
I cannot be I am not that serious a man
I am not that religious either
I am very ordinary
to be a pope
one needs to be very extraordinary
as far as charisma is concerned I have none
I am just as ordinary as anybody else in the world the whole idea of charisma is anti-human
it divides people and the whole
strategy of creating a charisma is nothing but the process of
conditioning. if you go to see a Jaina naked monk you will not see any charisma
because you are not conditioned for that.
You will simply see an ugly disgusting looking person.
Pale ill at ease. Eyes almost dead. No intelligence on the face.
The whole body shrunken.
Yes one thing will be big the belly,
because the Jaina monk eats only once a day so he has to eat too much
the whole figure of a Jaina monk; if you are not conditioned by Jaina
ideas
will appear to you like a caricature a cartoon
but to the Jainas themselves there is charisma great charisma.
Jaina monks particularly the digambara Jaina, monks who live naked,
every year
tear their hairs with their own hands. If you look at it it will look insane,
ugly, violent.
but the Jainas watch
with great respect something of immense value is happening
the man is simply tearing his hairs you must have seen your wife sometimes in anger
or if you go to a mad asylum you will find people tearing their hairs.
just angry at themselves violent at themselves repressed anger and nothing else
but to the Jaina mind it is charismatic what sacrifice
if you go to a Christian church and you see the cross
if you are conditioned by Christianity then you will not see that death is being worshipped
cross represents death there is every possibility if Jesus was not crucified
there would have been no Christianity at all
it is not Jesus who has dominated the Christian mind
it is the cross hence i don't call Christianity, Christianity I call it crossianity.
The cross simply symbolizes death,
suicide.
It is not a life affirmative symbol
but to the Christian it symbolizes great sacrifice of Jesus for the whole of humanity
Charisma is created
by a certain condition. The same pope was not charismatic two years before
suddenly he has become charismatic.
What miracle has happened just because he's chosen to be the pope.
He has been voted to be the pope and he has become charismatic
now millions of people are impressed by.
Nobody would have cared the same man has been there for
more than 60 years nobody had ever bothered about
this is just a created illusion
the same man
if he becomes the president of a country he starts having a charisma
and once he is no more a president he loses all charisma, he is nobody
when the revolution in Russia happened
there was a very charismatic leader karensky he was the prime minister of Russia
in revolution he escaped
and for 50 years nothing was heard about that charismatic leader
people had completely forgotten about and he was the most important man before Lenin in Russia
he had dominated the whole scene
after 50 years he died in New York as a grocer
when he died it was found that he is Karinsky and nobody else
and for 50 years he was attending a grocery store and nobody ever thought of him as charismatic
I am not charismatic
and I don't believe in all such nonsensical things
I exalt the simple
the unconditioned the innocent the ordinary
and I want all categories to be
dissolved the category of the sinner and the saint the unholy and the holy the profane and the sacred
the moral and the immoral I want to dissolve all categories man is simply men
so I would not like to be compared with the pope in fact I don't like
any comparison at all because comparison is basically a wrong approach I am myself
I don't want to be compared even with Jesus what to say about with pope i don't want to
be compared with buddha with Zarathustra with Lao-Tzu because all comparison is basically wrong
Lao-Tzu is Lao-Tzu I am what I am
there is no question of comparison
How can you compare a rose bush with his cedars of Lebanon there is no question of comparison
How can you compare the lotus with the marigolds
In fact two lotus flowers cannot be even compared with each other they have their own uniqueness
but we have been living with this idea of comparison for centuries we always compare
we always put people into categories we always put people into boxes who is who
to what category one belongs.
My whole effort here is to dissolve all categories and to declare the uniqueness of the individual.
Never compare me with anybody else I am simply myself good bad holy unholy Whatever I am
I am simply myself.
The very idea is disgusting to be compared with anybody else.