ELIZABETH: LET’S WELCOME TO THE
SHOW FORMER NYPD DETECTIVE,
DR. OSCAR ODOM.
DOCTOR, GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON.
THIS STORY, DEFUND THE POLICE,
THAT PUSH, IT IS TRIGGERING AN
EXODUS OF COPS ACROSS THE NATION
AS VIOLENT CRIME SPIKES COAST TO
COAST.
DOCTOR, POLICE DEPARTMENTS WE’RE
SEEING REPORTS, THEY’RE TAKING
DRASTIC ACTION TO TAKE MORE COPS
IN THE DOOR.
THEY’RE POTENTIALLY LOWERING
RECRUITING STANDARDS IN STATES
LIKE ILLINOIS, MISSOURI,
CONNECTICUT, LOWERING EDUCATING
REQUIREMENTS, GIVING PRIOR SMALL
BOARD DRUG USE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS NEW
TREND?
>> THIS IS WHAT WE CALL INSANITY
BECAUSE, LIKE THE MOVIE, I
ALWAYS SAY FROM A FEW GOOD MEN,
YOU NEED ME ON THAT LINE, YOU
WANT ME ON THAT LINE.
HERE THEY GO LOWERING THE
STANDARDS WHEN COMPLAINING SO OF
WHAT POLICE ARE DOING, WHEN THEY
HAVE EXPERIENCED POLICE OFFICERS
MAJORITY OF THE TIME ARE DOING
RIGHT THING, 1%, LESS THAN 1%
MESS UP THEY TRY TO BLAME
EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT IS TAKING
PLACE.
THEY NEED TO BE EVIDENCE-BASED
AND DATA DRIVEN AND LOOK AT DATA
TO SEE WHAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE
DOING.
WHEN THEY LOWER THE STANDARDS
THEY ARE GOING TO PAY.
I LIKE TO SEE THE TYPE OF
ADVERTISEMENT POLITICIANS WILL
HAVE TO TRY TO RECRUIT SOMEONE
TO TAKE A JOB WHERE YOU ARE
SECOND-GUESSED, YOU PUT YOUR
LIFE ON THE LINE, SEE WHAT
HAPPENS NEXT.
ELIZABETH: DOCTOR, WE ARE IN THE
MIDDLE OF HISTORIC CRIME WAVE.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS.
30% SPIKE IN HOMICIDES.
FIRST SIX MONTHS FIVE CITIES ARE
GETTING SMACKED HARD.
MINORITY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE
SLAMMED BY RISING CRIME.
WHAT IS MORE OF A VIOLATION OF
CIVIL RIGHTS THAN AN INNOCENT
CITIZEN, BLACK PERSON, OR
AFRICAN-AMERICAN, OR ASIAN OR
HISPANIC GETTING KILLED BECAUSE
OF DEFUND POLICE OTHER WEAK ON
CRIME POLICIES?
>> ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS ANOTHER
TERM CALLED INSANITY FOR THEM.
LIKE I WOULD SAY, THEY NEED TO
GIVE US THEIR POLICE SECURITY
DETAILS, WALK OUT THERE, LOOK AT
NUMBERS, I ALWAYS SAY A DEAD
BODY, IS A DEAD BODY.
IT DOESN’T LIE.
WHEN YOU ADD UP NUMBERS YOU SEE
WHAT HAPPENS, THERE IS MORE
PROOF TO SHOW YOU THEY NEED TO
STOP THE DEFUND THE POLICE
MOVEMENT AND MAKE SURE THEY’RE
PUTTING IN THE RIGHT RESOURCES
THERE, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
WHEN YOU START COUNTING BODIES
YOU WILL SEE WHAT’S WHAT.
THERE WILL BEING BIGGER IMPACT
ON THE COMMUNITIES, WITH MORE
PEOPLE DYING BECAUSE OF GUN
VIOLENCE.
SUMMER JUST STARTED.
WAIT UNTIL IT BEGINS.
ELIZABETH: DOCTOR, THIS LOOKS
LIKE A SEA CHANGE, A HINGE POINT
A TURNING POINT.
THE MINNESOTA SUPREME COURT
DELIVERED A BIG GROUP FOR
MINNEAPOLIS RESIDENTS, SUING DUE
TO INFLUX OF CRIME INTO THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS AFTER DEFUND THE
POLICE MOVEMENT.
THE COURT IS SAYING MINNEAPOLIS
YOU VIOLATED CITY CHARTER.
YOU DIDN’T HIRE ENOUGH COPS.
YOU HAVE TO BRING ON MORE THAN
730 POLICE OFFICERS.
SO THAT IS A SEA CHANGE.
>> MOST DEFINITELY.
I’M GLAD SOMEBODY IS LOOKING
INTO THE MERIT TO SEE EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENS AND LOOKING AT THE
DATA, AND REALIZE WHAT IS TAKING
PLACE WITH THE POLICE?
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA, LIKE I
SAID, LOOK AT THE DATA, LOOK AT
ARRESTS POLICE OFFICERS HAVE
MADE REGARDING HOMICIDES,
ROBBERIES ASSAULTS.
LIKE I SAID, ONE THING HAPPENS
OR SOMETHING, THEN YOU TRY TO
SWEEP EVERYBODY IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT WITH THAT THINK OF
NOBILITY ONE MUST HAVE, RECEIVE
A CALL, MAN WITH A GUN, RUNNING
INTO THE BUILDING, SELFLESS
SACRIFICE WITH THEIR LIFE.
THEY MAY HAVE FAMILY THEMSELVES,
THEY GO IN THERE WITHOUT ANY
HESITATION TO GO SEE WHAT TAKES
PLACE.
YOU ARE CAUSING COPS TO HESITATE
BY DIFFERENT DEFUND THE POLICE
MOVEMENTS, WAIT HOLD UP.
WHY WOULD ONE RUSH INTO
SOMETHING WHEN YOU MAY BE
SECOND-GUESSED AND LOSE YOUR
LIFE, LOSE YOUR CAREER AND --
ELIZABETH: OFFICER FATALITIES IN
THE LINE OF DUTY SPIKED MORE
THAN HALF FROM 2021 VERSUS 2020.
YOU KNOW, WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND
CLEAR.
POLICE OFFICERS IS REALLY
DANGEROUS TO DO THAT JOB.
YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS WERE INJURED
IN THE 2020 RIOTS.
LET’S WATCH, MANY OF THEM WERE
KILLED.
LET’S WATCH CIVIL RIGHTS
ATTORNEY LEO TERRELL ON THIS.
WATCH.
>> THE DEMOCRATS ARE SOFT ON
CRIME.
THEY WANT TO CLAIM THAT THEY’RE
SYSTEMIC RACISM AND SYSTEMIC
DISCRIMINATION.
IN THOSE FIVE DEMOCRATIC CITIES
YOU HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR BEING
KILLED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR AND BY
DIFFERENT OTHER GROUPS.
YET THE DEMOCRATS WON’T DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
WHY?
BECAUSE THAT IS
BLACK LIVES MATTER.
THAT IS ANTIFA.
WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE SOFT ON
CRIME PROSECUTORS, PEOPLE WHO
THE DEMOCRATS ALLEGEDLY CARE
ABOUT, PEOPLE OF COLOR IN THE
DEMOCRATIC CITIES, THEY DON’T
CARE ABOUT.
ELIZABETH: WE’RE SEEING IN
PHILADELPHIA, LIKE 80% OF THE
PEOPLE MURDERED THERE ARE BLACK
PEOPLE.
IT IS HAPPENING IN CITIES ACROSS
THE NATION.
WHY THE SILENCE ABOUT THIS,
DR. ODOM?
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I
WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY THEY DON’T GO
ACCORDING TO THEIR MOTTO WHEN
THEY SAY SEE SOMETHING, SAY
SOMETHING.
LIKE I SAY, THEY SEE SOMETHING.
PEOPLE SAY SOMETHING THEN THEY
DO NOTHING.
SO THAT BECOMES OXYMORON RIGHT
THERE.
I’M SEEING SOMETHING AND I’M
SAYING SOMETHING BUT THEN YOU DO
NOTHING.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
THE BODIES CONTINUE TO PILE UP.
I CAN’T PUT IT ANYMORE VIVID
THAN THAT.
THAT SHOULD SHOCK THE CONSCIOUS
TO ALLOW YOU TO LOOK AT DESPITE
ALL THE RHETORIC.
LOOK AT BODIES.
WE NEED TO SAVE THE CHILDREN.
SAVE COMMUNITIES.
GO ACCORDING TO THE
CONSTITUTION.
MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO
WALK AROUND, ENJOY FREEDOMS
PROTECTED UNDER THE UNITED
STATES CONSTITUTION.
FIRST TAKEN AMENDMENTS OF UNITED
STATES CONSTITUTION IS THE BILL
OF RIGHTS.
ELIZABETH: OKAY.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE EMBRACE.
THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK AT.
ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GO RECKLESS,
DEFUND THE POLICE, NOT ALLOWING
POLICE OFFICERS TO BE THERE,