LISTEN, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAN.
>> Stephen: WE SAW EACH OTHER BRIEFLY AT THE MET GALA LAST
WEEK.
>> RIGHT, RIGHT.
>> Stephen: AND I GOTTA SAY, THAT EVERYBODY THERE, WHATEVER
THEY WERE WEARING-- MALE OR FEMALEUE HAD ONE OF THE BEST
OUTFITS.
>> OH!
>> Stephen: THIS IS-- COME ON.
LOOK AT THAT.
THAT IS...
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I MEAN, THAT'S--
>> THE BLACK POPE.
>> Stephen: YEAH, YOU GOT TO WEAR A CAPE.
THAT'S FANTASTIC.
WHO WAS THIS?
WHO WERE YOU WEARING?
>> VERSACE.
>> Stephen: VERSACE.
VERY NICE, VERY NICE, I LOV VER-SACE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WEARING SOMETHING INSPIRED BY THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH, IT'S ALL MEN AND THEY WEAR CAIPS.
YOU CAN REALLIBLING OUT AS-- I HAVE TO SAY YOU MAY HAVE
ACTUALLY OUT-POPEED THE POPE.
>> DID I?
WHOA, WHOA.
THAT'S BLASPHEMY.
>> Stephen: NO, NO, NO!
I THINK HE'S GOT A SENSE OF HUMOR.
I THINK HE NEEDS SOME GOLD BROCADE ON HIS OUTFIT.
YOU COULD TEACH HEM A LESSON OR TWO.
>> IT WAS FUN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I PLAY JAMES BROWN.
SO I HAD-- IT'S THE FIRST TIME I WAS ABLE TO WEAR A CAPE SINCE
THEN.
>> Stephen: SURE.
SURE.
>> AND HE-- HE TOOK SOME OF HIS FLARE AND STYLE FROM SWEET DADDY
GRACE.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
>> SO I WAS ABLE TO-- WHICH THERE'S LIKE A PIMP PRIEST IDEA
IN THERE.
( LAUGHTER ) OH, NOW YOU SEE IT.
>> Stephen: SO THAT IS-- THAT IS PIMP POPE RIGHT THERE.
>> THERE YOU GO, THERE YOU GO.
THERE YOU GO.
>> Stephen: BIG POPEIN '.
>> YEAH, BIG POPEIN'.
>> Stephen: WHAT A YEAR.
YOU STAR IN TWO OF THE BIGGEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME.
"BLACK PANTHER."
AND "AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR."
WHAT'S IT--
YOU ARE ALREADY A SUCCESSFUL RESPECTED ACTOR.
WHAT'S IT LIKE GOING FROM SUCCESSFUL ACTOR TO SUPERHERO?
>> OH, MAN.
YOU KNOW-- I'M THE TYPE OF ACTOR THAT SORT OF-- I ENJOY OBSERVING
PEOPLE.
I ENJOY BEING ABLE TO HIDE.
I HAVE PRETTY MUCH EXISTED IN THE SHADOW.
LIKE I WATCH PEOPLE.
THAT'S HOW YOU PLAY A LOT OF CHARACTERS.
IF YOU WATCH PEOPLE, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THEY OPERATE.
BUT I CAN'T REALLY DO THAT AS MUCH ANYMORE.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: PEOPLE SEE YOU
COMING?
>> THEY SEE ME COMING SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEREAS BEFORE, YOU
MIGHT RECOGNIZE ME 10 FEET AWAY.
NOW IT'S LIKE YOU'RE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET, AND THEY'RE
LIKE, "THAT'S HIM!
I KNOW IT'S HIM!" AND THEY'RE CHASING YOU.
OR EVEN DRIVING IN YOUR CAR, AND PEOPLE ARE CHASING YOU --
>> Stephen: WHAT?
>> IF THEY NOTICE.
YEAH, SO PEOPLE HAVE FOLLOWED ME JUST TO, LIKE, DO THIS.
( LAUGHTER ) JUST TO DO --
>> Stephen: NOT WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING I HOPE BECAUSE YOU HAVE
TO KEEP THEM AT 10:00 AND 2:00 PEOPLE.
>> I'VE SEEN PEOPLE LITERALLY GRABBING THE STEERING WHEEL.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: I HOPE-- I HOPE NOT ON A MOTORCYCLE.
>> NO, NO.
>> Stephen: THAT WOULD BE BAD.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WAKANDA SALUTE FOR A SECOND.
HOW DID THAT SALUTE COME ABOUT, BY THE WAY?
HOW WAS THIS DECIDED ON.
>> WOW, WE WERE DOING THE SCENE IN THE THRONE ROOM, AND RYAN
CAME TO ME AND WAS BASICALLY LIKE, "WE NEED SOME WAY FOR THE
KING'S GUARD TO SORT OF SALUTE YOU."
>> Stephen: I SEE.
>> SO WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE SORT OF POSES, THESE--
THAT HAVE, LIKE, ANCIENT MEANINGS.
SO THIS WAS SORT OF LIKE AN EGYPTIAN FAR PHAROAH.
>> Stephen: HOLDING THE THING--
>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO IT WAS THAT IDEA.
AND IT MEANS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
IT CAN ALSO TURN INTO A FIGHTING STYLE AT CERTAIN MOMENTS.
SO WAKANDA FOREVER COULD BE WAKANDA NEVER.
STEP AWAY FROM ME.
>> Stephen: WELL, I-- I-- I YOU PROBABLY HAVE DONE IT A
MILLION TIMES AT THIS POINT.
IS IT ONE ARM OVER THE OTHER?
WHICH WAY-- DOES IT MATTER?
>> IT'S THE RIGHT OVER THE LEFT.
>> Stephen: SO IT'S LIKE THIS, LIKE THAT?
>> YES, YES, YES.
>> Stephen: NOW, MUCH WAS MADE OVER THIS TWEET PUT OUT BY THE
"AVENGERS."
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?
THIS WAS A PHOTO PUT OUT BY THE OFFICIAL "AVENGERS" TWITTER
PAGE, AND PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THIS-- THEY HAVE INTERPRETED TO
MEAN, LIKE, MAYBE YOU'VE DONE THIS ENOUGH.
MAYBE YOU'VE DONE THIS ENOUGH.
>> I THOUGHT-- I THOUGHT IT WAS --
>> Stephen: BECAUSE THIS-- THIS RIGHT HERE IS VERY CLOSE TO
THIS RIGHT HERE.
( LAUGHTER ) I GET IT.
I GET IT, YEAH, YEAH.
>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING.
IT'S LIKE YOU-- IF I WAS-- BECAUSE IT'S A SALUTE, YOU KNOW.
>> Stephen: SURE.
>> IF I WAS IN THE MILITARY AND DID THIS EVERY DAY, I'M NOT
GOING TO DO IT THE SAME EVERY TIME.
>> Stephen: SURE.
>> SOMETIMES IT'S MORE-- IT'S MORE PEDESTRIAN.
YEAH, YEAH.
SO THAT PERSON, WHOEVER I WAS DOING TO AT THAT MOMENT, CAUGHT
A CASUAL ONE.
BUT THREE MINUTES-- THREE MINUTES BEFORE THAT I PROBABLY
DID ONE THAT WAS, LIKE, FULLY!
YES!
>> Stephen: NOW, IN-- IN "INFINITY WAR" I MEAN EVERY
SUPERHERO EVER IMAGINED IS IN THE MOVIE, OTHER THAN HAWKED
EYE.
( LAUGHTER ) AND ARE YOU PERFORMING WITH
OTHER ACTORS, OR IS IT ALL JUST PING PONG BALLS ON A BROOMSTICK?
>> IT'S BOTH.
IT'S BOTH.
THERE ARE-- I WOULD SAY IT'S MORE MOMENT WHERE'S YOU ACTUALLY
DO PERFORM WITH OTHER ACTORS.
AND I THINK THERE ARE-- WEIRD TIMES WHEN IT'S KIND OF BOTH
THINGS AT ONCE WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MARK RUFF LOW, FOR
INSTANCE, DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE INCREDIBLE HULK IN REAL LIFE.
>> Stephen: NOT A BIG GUY.
>> SO HE ACTUALLY HAS A SUIT THAT HE WARES THAT IS LIKE A
LITTLE KID'S PAJAMAS, BASICALLY.
>> Stephen: LIKE FOOTY PAJAMAS.
>> I THINK THEY CALL IT THE MAN-HUMBLING SUIT.
FEW PEOPLE WEAR IT, LIKE TOM HARLOW HAS TO WEAR IT FOR
SPIDER-MAN.
>> Stephen: THE "MAN HUMBLING" SUIT?
IS IT COLD?
>> NO, BUT THE COLD COULD BE INVOLVED IN SOME WAY.
BUT, YEAH, IT'S LIKE-- THEY SOMETIMES HAVE, LIKE, THIS POLE
CONNECTED TO THEM SO THAT YOU LOOK UP AT MAYBE A TENNIS BALL
-- >> Stephen: WHERE THE HULK'S
HEAD IS.
>> THE HULK'S SHOULD UP THERE.
HE'S STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME BUT I HAVE TO ACTUALLY TALK
TO HIM UP THERE.
YOU HEAR THIS VOICE COMING FROM DOWN HERE AND YOU'RE LOOKING UP
HERE.
IT'S THE HARDEST THING IN THE WORLD BECAUSE EVERY TIME HE
SPEAKS YOU WANT TO LOOK DOWN AT HIM.
BUT HE'S THERE.
>> Stephen: AND HE'S GOING LIKE, "HULK MAD," LIKE STUFF
LIKE THAT?
IS HE?
IS THAT WHAT HE'S DOING?
( LAUGHTER ) IS HE DOING-- YEAH.
>> IF-- IF THAT'S WHAT'S WRITTEN, YES.
>> Stephen: HE'S A WORKING ACTOR.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: SO WE MEET "BLACK PANTHER" IN CIVIL WAR.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, "BLACK PANTHER" IS ALL ABOUT "BLACK
PANTHER."
NOW YOU'RE THE "AVENGERS."
AND YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE FIGHTING THANOS.
BUT A LOT OF IT'S TAKING PLACE IN WAKANDA.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: YOU KNOW, SHOULDN'T IT BE CALLED, YOU
KNOW, "AVENGERS: BLACK PANTHER INFINITY WARS."
>> I SHOULD HAVE HAD YOU AROUND TO NEGOTIATE THAT.
>> Stephen: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>> NO, NO-- RIGHT OVER LEFT.
( APPLAUSE ) ( LAUGHTER )
NOW, IT'S A CARTOON CHARACTER, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S
GREAT ABOUT "BLACK PANTHER" IS THAT YOU'VE INVESTED IT WITH
REALITY.
I CAN BELIEVE THAT WAKANDA EXISTS.
I CAN BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A CULT THAT YOU ARE EXISTS.
HOW DID YOU INVEST A CARTOON CHARACTER, VERY BROAD, YOU KNOW,
SUPERHERO WHO CAN, YOU KNOW, JUMP OVER BUILDINGS.
HOW DID YOU INVEST THAT WITH REALITY?
>> I THINK FOR ME, YOU-- YOU-- THE SUPERHERO PART OF IT, THE
POWERS THAT A PERSON HAS, LIKE, YOU-- THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART
OF BEING A SUPERHERO.
BUT WE IDENTIFY WITH THE HUMANITY.
WE IDENTIFY WITH THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME STRUGGLES
THAT WE HAVE.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A MOTHER AND A FATHER.
SO IT'S THE BACK STORY.
IT'S WHO ARE THEY?
LIKE YDOES HE RESPECT HIS FATHER SO MUCH, YOU KNOW.
AND I, WITH US, WHAT WE HAD TO DO WAS GROUND IT INTO
AUTHENTICITY THAT IS AFRICAN.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME IT WAS LIKE, WELL, WHAT IS THAT
PARTICULAR -- >> Stephen: YOUR PEOPLE CAME
FROM?
>> YEAH, OR ALSO THAT I'M LIMBA FROM SIERRA LEONE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO ME?
HOW I CAN BRING THAT TO THE FILM?
AND AND I THINK EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD SORT OF DID SOME SORT
OF RESEARCH ON THEIR CHARACTERS IN THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, SET
DESIGN, WARDROBE, YOU KNOW PICKING VARIOUS DIFFERENT
ASPECTS OF THE CONTINENT THAT WE LOVE.
BECAUSE YOU CAN BRING ALL OF THAT INTO THIS PLACE THAT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE FICTITIOUS, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
WAKANDA IS A PLACE THAT EVERYTHING SORT-- COULD HAVE
SORT OF COME FROM, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN AROUND THAT LONG.
SO THERE'S A DISPERSION THROUGHOUT THE CONTINENT.
YOU COULD PICK FROM ANYTHING YOU LOVE.
I SPOKE OF THE EGYPTIAN REFERENCE, YOU KNOW.
THERE ARE SOUTH AFRICAN REFERENCES.
REFERENCES TO THE DOGGAN AND MALI.
THOSE WERE LIKE RYAN'S RESEARCH, MY RESEARCH, THE DESIGNERS'
RESEARCH, AND EVERYBODY THAT PLAYED A CHARACTER, YOU PICKED
SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE LOVED AND BROUGHT IT TO THE FILM.
>> Stephen: WHAT ABOUT YOUR FIGHTING STYLE?
I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT THAT FROM A FORM OF BOXING I DIDN'T KNOW
ABOUT.
>> THAT'S-- THAT'S-- IT'S VARIOUS DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW,
STYLES USED IN-- YOU'RE SPEAKING OF DOMBE BOXING FROM SENEGAL.
>> Stephen: THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> YEAH, WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME ELEMENTS OF THAT IN THE
FIGHTING.
I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THOSE POSES DIDN'T REALLY STAY IN THE CUT
YEAH, YEAH, BUT WE STUDIED IT.
SO THAT HAS A SORT OF, LIKE A JOUSTING --
>> Stephen: IS THIS GOING TO HURT?
>> NO, NO, NO.
SO I'M KEEPING MY DISTANCE FROM YOU.
>> Stephen: YEAH, YEAH SURE.
YOU BETTER, YOU BETTER.
>> YOU NEVER KNOW I'M TRYING PLAY THIS LINE AND AT ANY POINT
I COULD COME OVER THE TOP WITH THIS RIGHT HERE THOSE LEGS--
THOSE LEGS WOULDN'T BE IN THERE.
>> Stephen: YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T EXPECT IT.
YEAH, YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT I LEARNED.
MY FAMILY IS FROM IRELAND.
THAT'S HOW WE FOUGHT.
>> THAT'S HOW YOU DID IT?
>> Stephen: THAT'S HOW WE FOUGHT.
IT'S AUTHENTIC.
>> LEGS HIGH.
>> Stephen: LEGS REALLY HIGH, YEAH, YEAH.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE, MAN.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: "BLACK PANTHER" IS NOW OUT ON DVD.
CHADWICK BOSEMAN, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.