MARKEITH LOYD TOSSED OUT DURING THE ARREST. MORE TESTIMONY COMES TOMORROW.
AND NOW OVER TO JUSTIN WARMOTH
WITH THE WEEKLY.
>> ANCHOR: GOOD MORNING, I‘M
JUSTIN WARMOTH.
AFTER A 2-MONTH RECESS CONGRESS
WILL BE BACK IN SESSION THIS
WEEK AND NO DOUBT THE FOCUS IS
ON THE ONGOING IMPEACHMENT
INQUIRY.
THIS MORNING CONGRESSMAN
MICHAEL WALTZ IS HERE TO
DISCUSS THE UKRAINIAN INQUIRY
AND AGAINST THE MOVE TO PULL
BACK TROOPS FROM SYRIA.
PROPERTY BEFORE YOU LEFT, TELL
OUR SKEWERS WHAT THE ATMOSPHERE
WAS LIKE, BECAUSE TOWARDS THE
TAIL END OF THE SESSION, THE
IMPEACHMENT TALK REALLY STARTED
UP.
JUST GIVE US A BRIEF CHANCE TO
COME BACK.
>> AND THEN IS GOING TO THE
BUILDING FOR AWHILE.
THIS IS GOING TO SEE THE FACT
THAT SPEAKER PELOSI DIDN‘T WAIT
FOR ANOTHER DAY OR 2 TO AT
LEAST SEE THE TRANSCRIPT, WHICH
THE PRESIDENT HAD OFFERED TO
RELEASE, AND TO AT LEAST SEE
THE WREEB REPORT BEFORE SHE
IMMEDIATELY WENT TO SOMETHING
SO CONSEQUENTIAL AS IMPEACHMENT
FOR POSSIBLY THE 4TH TIME IN
AMERICAN HISTORY, I IF YOU
UNDERSTAND REALLY SURPRISING
AND SHOCKING BUT THE OTHER HAND
DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
WITH THE DAY THE PRESIDENT WAS
INAUGURATED AND INTENDED TO
IMPEACH HIM AND THEY‘RE GOING
TO FIND A CRIME TO FIT THAT
INVESTIGATION AND FIT THEIR
AGENDA.
SO IT SURPRISED ME SHE DIDN‘T
WAIT TO SEE WHAT HE SAID BUT
THERE WAS AN AGENDA FROM DAY 1.
>> ANCHOR: AND SHE DOESN‘T PLAN
TO HOLD A FORMAL VOTE EITHER.
DO YOU THINK THE VOTE SHOULD
HAVE HAPPENED?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT WAS HISTORIC PRECEDENT.
IT HAPPENED WITH CLINTON AND
NIXON.
FOR SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT AND
THE CO-EQUAL BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT REMOVING WITH THE
GOVERNMENT AS LAID OUT IN THE
CONSTITUTION GO ON RECORD.
IF YOU FEEL IT IS CONSEQUENTIAL
THAT THESE REACH BRIBERY,
TREEDTREASON, HIGH CRIME AND GO
UP OR DOWN.
THAT IS OUR SYSTEM AND I THINK
HAVE THE GUTS TO DO IT.
>> WHAT DOW MAKE OF THIS?
>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE INTENT ON
THAT CONVERSATION AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE, ME INCLUDED SAYING SHE
WAS LOOKING BACK AT 2016 AND
LOOKING AT THE DNC HACK AND
REALLY HE‘S BEEN LOUD AND CLEAR
AT WANTING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF HOW THE FIZA WARRANTS AND
WAS THAT PROCESS CORRUPTED IN
SOME WAY BY FACTORS IN THE FBI.
AND ALSO CALLING IN FOREIGN AID.
IS IT IN AMERICA‘S INTEREST AND
USED OFFICIAL LOO.
WHETHER IT‘S IN AFGHANISTAN OR
WHETHER THAT IS IN UKRAINE OR
THERE I THINK PEOPLE ARE TRYING
TO CONNECT DOTS TO CONNECT THE
AGENDA.
>> AND IS THAT AN
IMPEACHABILITY OFFENSE OR?
>> AGAIN THEY SAY THE FAVOR WAS
IN EXCHANGE AND ASKING FOR THE
SERVERS THAT WERE THERE WITH
THE SERVICE CALLED CLOUD STRIKE
SO SOME PEOPLE BUT NOWHERE IN
THERE WAS A A QUID PROQUO ON
THAT AND AYE SAID RELEASE THE
FOREIGN AID IN THE NUMBER OF
COUNTRY BUS HIS CONCERN ABOUT
IT SHOULDN‘T BE NEW AND IT
SHOULD BE AROUND THE GLOBE, NOT
JUST THE UKRAINE.
>> AND MANY SEEING AND THINKING
APPROXIMATE THE ENTIRE TIME.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS WITH
THE MUELLER REPORT.
ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS
AGAIN?
>> I JUST HAD A TOWN HALL AND
AYE BEEN ALL OVER MY DISTRICT
AND PEOPLE HAVE HAD IT WITH ALL
OF THIS.
I THINK DEMOCRACIES HAVE CRIED
WOLF TOO MANY TIMES
PARTICULARLY JUMPING TO
KAVANAUGH AND IMPEACH HIM, TOO,
AND HAVE THE NEW YORK TIMES
PULL THAT STORY BACK.
THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE‘RE
DOING WITH HEALTH CARE AND
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND
TRANSPORTATION AND
INFASTRUCTURE AND WHAT ARE WE
GETTING DONE FOR THESE BIG
REFORM EFFORTS AND I CAN TELL
YOU WITH 6 COMMITTEES WE‘RE NOT
GETTING ANYTHING DONE AND
THAT‘S A SHAME.
>> WITH THE IPPEACHMENT TALK
AND WANTING TO USE IT, DO YOU
THINK THEY‘RE LOSING IT
LOOSELY?
>> I‘LL QUOTE THE DEMOCRATIC
SCHUMER WHO LEADS FROM THE HOST
IN THE 1990S AND WE‘RE HEADED
TO THAT POLITICAL TOOL TO
SETTLE POLITICAL SCORES AND
THIS IS GOING HUGELY
CONSEQUENCAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL
AND THE MINIMAL THING IS TO
KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO STAND
AND HAVE A PARTY.
I AM CALLING FOR DEMOCRATIC
COLLEAGUES TO STEP UP AND CAST
OUR VOTE.
THAT IS WHAT OUR SYSTEM IS
DESIGNED AROUND.
>> LAST QUESTION ON THIS.
HOW DO YOU SEE IT ALL PLAYING
OUT?
>> I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE
DETERMINED TO DO IT AT THIS
POINT.
NOW THAT NANCY PELOSI CROSSED
THAT THRESHOLD, I THINK SHE‘LL
DRIVE IT FORWARD.
WHAT IT REALLY BOTHERSOME TO ME
IS IT‘S NOT A FAIR AND OPEN
PROCESS.
ADAM SHIFT WHO LEADS THE INTEL
COMMITTEE IS NOT ALLOWS THE
TRANSCRIPS TO BE SEEN BY THE
PUBLIC BUT RELEASING CERTAIN
TEXTS WITH HIS OWN SPIN AT THE
MICROPHONE.
IF THIS IS WITH THE OPEN
HEARING AND HAVE EVERYTHING
BEING HEARD AND THE PRESIDENT
IS RIGHT TO SAY WE WON‘T
PARTICIPATE AND THEY INTENDED
THIS TO BE BIPARTISAN.
THAT‘S WHY THEY AND YOU CAN‘T
HAVE THEM START TAKING DOWN
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
>> YOU SPOKE ABOUT BEING
AGAINST REMOVING TROOPS FROM
SYRIA.
>> MANY PAINT IT AS IRRATIONAL
AND FLYING OFF THE CUFF TRYING
TO IMPUEF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH
TURKEY DETERIORATING SINCE
OBAMA IS NOT IRRATIONAL.
BUT I DISAGREE WITH ABANDONING
ALLIES, THE KURDS, BUT ALLOWS
ISIS TO RESURGE.
KURDS ARE GUARDING TENS OF
THOUSANDS PRISON CAMPS AND
ESSENTIALLY OPENING THE JAIL
DOORS BY ALLOWING TURKS TO
ATTACK THE PRISON GUARDS WHICH
ARE THE KURDS.
IT‘S COMPLICATED BUT I THINK AT
THE END OF THE DAY ISIS CAN RE
SURGE AND WILL ATTEMPT TO
RESURGE AND THE LEADER IS STILL
ALIVE AND CALLED ON HIS
REMAINING FIGHTERS TO ATTACK
THESE CAMPS AS WELL AND THEY
CAN BECOME A THREAT TO THE
UNITED STATES AGAIN.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO BE
CLEAR ON IS WE‘RE NOT TALKING
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
AMERICAN TROOPS.
I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS BELIEVE
THAT WE‘RE IN SYRIA IN A WAY WE
WERE IN THE IRAQ INVASION.
WE‘RE TALKING A FEW HUNDRED.
IF THE GOAL IS TO BRING TROOPS
HOME HOW ABOUT THOSE IN JAPAN
OR GERMANY OR SOUTH KOREA.
WE EVEN STILL HAVE A BATTALION
IN THE EGYPTIAN SINAI.
IF WE WANT TO BRING TROOPS HOME
AND REDUCE EXPOSURE OVERSEAS,
THERE ARE FEWER PLACES TO DO IT
THAN IN THE HEART OF THE AREA
HERE.
WE CAN‘T REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF
OBAMA WHO PULLED US OUT OF IRAQ
TOO SOON AND LED TO ISIS IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
>> AND THEN IT IS WITH THEN
THINK I THINK IT IS EXACTLY
WHAT WE‘RE DOING IN SYRIA IS
WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH
THAT SMALL FOOT PRINT AND A FEW
HUNDREDS BACKED BY U.S. AIR
POWER AND IT IS TO KEEP A LID
ON THIS TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
AND THAT IS WHAT MANY ARE DOING
AROUND THE WORLD AS WE SPEAK
AND SHOWS IT WILL NOT STAND
WITH YOU AND MOVING
AGGRESSIVELY TO ATTACK THE BASE
IN SYRIA AND LAB NONE AND WE‘LL
HAVE TO SEE WITH THAT ALLY AS
WELL.
>> AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE‘LL
SIT DOWN WITH FORMER
CONGRESSMAN BILL MCCOLLUM, ONE
OF THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS WHO
PRESENTED THE CASE AGAINST BILL
CLINTON IN 1998.
HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROCESS
AND WHETHER OR NOT
HE BELI
>>>> ANCHOR: CORPUS CHRISTIE BAFJT IN NOON 98 BILL CLINTON BECAME THE FIRST TO THIRD TO BE
IMPEACHED AND IT IS ONCE AGAIN
GROW OG CAPITOL HILL.
FEW CAN OFFER PERSPECTIVE OF
HOW THIS WORKS BUT SOMEONE WHO
CAN IS BILL MCCOLLUM AND ONE OF
THOSE WHO PROSECUTED CLINTON.
MIKE HOLFELD HAS THAT INTERVIEW.
>> DOES IT MEET THAT LEVEL OF
THE PRESIDENT COULD BE
IMPEACHED AS WE SAW WITH
PRESIDENT CLINTON?
>> I DON‘T THINK IT‘S THE SAME
BY ANY STRETCH.
IT IS MORE COMPARABLE MAYBE TO
WATERGATE THAN IT IS TO CLINTON.
>> ANCHOR: HOW SO?
>> IN THE CLINTON CASE THERE
WERE REAL CRIMES.
THAT IS THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT
QUESTION LIED TO THE GRAND JURY
AND LIED IN A DEPOSITION AND IN
THAT COURT PREEG UNDER OATH AND
TRYING TO GET MONICA LEWINSKY
AND PRESS SECRETARY TO LIE IN
COURT AND UNDER OATH AND
OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE AND TO TRY
TO COVER THEM UP.
AMONG OTHER THINGS.
THERE WERE A WHOLE LITANY OF
THINGS AND HAD A REPORT THAT
THEY HAD IN GREAT, GREAT DETAIL.
THEY DON‘T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW,
THE DEMOCRATS AND CONGRESS WITH
THE SAME TYPE OF THING FOR
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WHAT THEY HAVE IS SOMETHING
MUCH MORE TENUOUS.
THEY SAY IT IS CIRCUMSTANCUAL
EVIDENCE AND IT HAD BEEN HELD
BACK FOR SOME TIME AND
CONTINUES TO BE THEREAFTER.
WHEN HE SAID I SHOULD THESE
THINGS TO LOOK INTO AND
PARTICULARLY WAS THERE IT IS
THE WEATHER WITH THE UKRAINIANS
TO BE INVOLVED AND WERE
INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL DEMOCRAT
BREAK IN OR IF YOU WANT TO CALL
IT THAT AND INTERFERENCE WITH
MEDDLING AND APPARENT TLE TLAFS
SOMETHING AND WE‘RE GOING TO
SEE THE APPROACH.
>> AND THAT IS THE PRESIDENT
THAT IS VALID.
>> VERY VALID AND THAT IS NOT
BEING SUGGESTED AS SOMETHING
IMPROPER BY THE DEMOCRATS RIGHT
NOW BUT THAT‘S THE LEAD IN AND
YOU SEE HE DOESN‘T USE THESE
WORDS BUT HAS A SIDE COMMENT BY
THE WAY, WHILE YOU‘RE DOING
THIS, THIS THING WITH PRESIDENT
BIDEN, I HEARD, AND HE SAYS,
THE PRESIDENT DOESN‘T SPEAK IN
SENTENCES SO IT MAKES IT
INTERESTING, AS YOU PROBABLY
KNOW, BUT SAID BY THE WAY,
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THIS BIDEN THING IS REALLY PART
OF THE CORRUPTION AND
PROSECUTOR THAT WAS TAKEN OFF
THE CASE OVER WHATEVER.
IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THAT TOO
IT‘S SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT IS THE QUID PROQUO
THAT SOMEHOW HE WAS BUYING THAT
AND GETTING THEM TO DO THAT
WITH THE THREAT OF HOLDING BACK
THE MONEY AND ARMS THAT WOULD
GO TO THEM.
THE ARMS WERE RELEASED AND NO
MENTION IN THE TRANSCRIPT OF
ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO
THINGS.
THIS IS THAT CHAIN OF ONGOING
PROCESS WITH THE NEW ISSUES AND
THEN IT IS GOING TO SEE WITH
THAT SHOWING HE‘S NOT GOING TO
SEE WITH WHAT PREDECESSORS DID
AND THE IDEA THAT IT IS SERIOUS
ENOUGH TO CALL IT ABUSE OF
POWER AND PROBABLY NOT A CRIME.
SAY HEY, YOU SHOULDN‘T BE DOING
THIS AND PEOPLE SAY ISN‘T THIS
REALLY AN ABUSE OF POWER AND
ISN‘T THIS TERRIBLE BECAUSE
THIS IS THE OPPONENT IN THE
NEXT ELECTION.
WE DIDN‘T KNOW HE‘D BE THE
OPPONENT.
HE HAS SEVERAL POTENTIAL
OPPONENTS AND THEN IT IS WITH
THAT TO BE ASKING FOR THAT AND
THEN QUESTIONING WHAT VICE
PRESIDENT BIDEN‘S SON WAS DOING
MAKING $50,000 A YEAR ON THE
BOARD WITH THE COMPANY IN THE
UKRAINE.
>> I THINK IT WAS A MONTH,
WASN‘T IT?
IT WAS A STAGGERING AMOUNT OF
MONEY!
>> A MONTH.
50,000 A MONTH.
THAT‘S RIGHT!
>> AND HE DIDN‘T EVEN KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT THE OIL INDUSTRY
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
>> ANYTHING ABOUT THE OIL
INDUSTRY AND GETTING 50,000 A
MONTH AND EVEN IF IT IS NOT THE
BEHAVIOR BY THE VICE PRESIDENT,
IT IS SUSPECT BEHAVIOR,
ESPECIALLY WHEN HE ASKED THE
PROSECUTOR STOP PROSECUTING AND
BE RELIEVED OF DUTY.
AND THEN ON THE PRESIDENT‘S
SIDE HE THINKS IT IS SOMETHING
HE SAYS HE WAS DOING BECAUSE HE
WAS TRYING TO POSSIBLY GO AFTER
BUT GOING AFTER THE COMPANY ON
THE BOARD AND THERE ARE RED
FLAGS WITH THE LAW.
>> AND THEN THAT IS A FEELING
ON CAPITOL HILL WHEN ONE OF
THESE THINGS UNFOLDS.
I ACTUALLY COVERED IT MYSELF!
AND THEN WHAT IS THAT FEELING
SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU
DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS
AND TRYING TO IMPEACH THE
PRESIDENT.
>> IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE
WANTED TO DO AND NOT SOMETHING
WE WIBED TO DO BUT SOMETHING WE
FELT WE HAD A DUTY TO DO. I
GET THE SENSE FROM CAPITOL HILL
THERE ARE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER
OF DEMOCRATS THAT WANT TO DO
THIS AND WANTED TO GET RID OF
THIS PRESIDENT AND IT IS JUST
THE HINT OF SOMETHING THAT
MIGHT WORK AND IT IS DRIVING
THEM TO THIS SDPIESDPIER
INSTEAD OF BEING LIKE PETER
WITH THE WATERGATE PERIOD WHERE
HE WAS A RELUCTANT PERSON TO GO
AFTER THE PRESIDENT.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WAS TO SEE
WITH THE BIPARTISAN APPROACH
AND LET THE REPUBLICANS ASK THE
QUESTION AND CALL WITNESSS AND
DO WHATEVER.
SO FAR WE HAVEN‘T SEEN THAT.
>> HOW DOONG TELL PLAY OUT?
>> I THINK THERE IS A 50/50 OR
BETTER CHANCE THEY‘LL VOTE TO
IMPEACH ON THE TOKEN ONE OR 2
AND THEN IT IS THE END OF IT.
IT IS GOING TO BE SUPERFICIAL
BECAUSE THE VOTES AREN‘T THERE.
AND IF SOMETHING ELSE DOESN‘T
HAPPEN,.
>> HOW LONG DOES THIS TAKE?
THEY‘RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON
THE HILL EXCEPT THIS!
>> IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT IS NOT TOO PREDICTABLE
EXCEPT BY THE STAIMS OF THOSE
INVOLVED AND THEY SAY THEY WANT
TO COMPLETE IT BY THANKSGIVING
AND CHRISTMAS.
BUT AT WHAT PRICE ARE THEY
GOING TO OPEN UP AND BE FAIR?
ARE THEY GOING TO PASS WITH THE
FLOOR VOTE THAT HAS THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND HAVE
THE REAL PRESIDENT WHERE
REPUBLICANS HAVE THAT RUSH ON
THE FLOOR AND THAT IS VERY
PARTISAN.
I DON‘T THINK IT SITS WELL BUT
THAT IS HOW THEY WOULD SPEED IT
UP IF IT HAPPENED.
OTHERWISE IT CAN TAKE QUITE A
WHOO,IL IF YOU DID THIS
DELIBERATELY AND OVER A PERIOD
OF TIME, THEY DON‘T HAPPEN
OVERNIGHT AND THEY DON‘T HAVE
AN INVESTIGATE AND I HAVE
INDEPENDENT COUNCIL LIKE WE DID
AND ESPECIALLY COUNSELOR
MUELLER AND THEN CAME BACK
THERE IS NOTHING TO IMPEACH.
THEY THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE
SOMETHING THERE, DEMOCRATS DID
THAT WOULD BE IMPEACHABLE.
THERE WASN‘T.
IN THIS CASE AT THE MOMENT
THERE IS NO INDEPENDENT COUNSEL
AND THIS IS ALL COMMITTEE WORK.
>> ANCHOR: IN THE END THIS
COULD IMPACT THE ELECTION IN
2020?
>> AND I THINK THIS IS MORE A
POLITICAL PLOY THAN ANYTHING
ELSE RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS A DIVISION IN THE
COUNTRY THAT‘S EXTREME AT THIS
MOMENT AMONG MANY AND THOSE WHO
REALLY BELIEVE IN TRUMP AND
LIKE WHAT HE‘S DOING AND MIGHT
NOT CARE FOR ME PERSONALLY AND
AT THE COURT APPOINTMENTS AND
THE FACT THAT TAXES REDUCED AND
THE ECONOMY HAS DONE WELL AND A
NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.
THERE WERE THOSE ON THE OTHER
SIDE WHO CAME FROM THE VERY
MOMENT HE WAS ELECTED SAY HE
WASN‘T LEGITIMATELY ELECTED AND
DON‘T LIKE HIS POLICIES.
THEY DON‘T LIKE HIM PERSONALLY.
AND THE TWO TOGETHER BECOME
VERY VOLATILE AND THEN THE
OTHER PART THE GOING TO THE
GENERAL AND THEN IS TO STILL
SEE THOSE IN CONGRESS BUT THERE
ARE A GREAT NUMBER IS GOING TO
LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THE FAR
LEFT TO FAR RIGHT AND IT IS NOT
GOING TO BE MANY OF THEM WHO
COME FORWARD.
CERTAINLY NOT TO SOMETHING
FLIMSY LIKE THIS AND IT IS
ACROSS PARTY LINES.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND,
DEMOCRATS, I THINK ARE AFRAID
TO GO BEFORE THIS BEFORE BUT
THAT CAN TURN ON THEM IN THE
GENERAL ELECTION.
>> BIG THANKS TO MIKE FOR THAT
INTERVIEW.
THAT WILL DO IT FOR THIS
MORNING.
TO FOLLOW THE LATEST
DEVELOPMENTS ONCE CONGRESS IS
BACK IN SESSION ON TUESDAY,