- This is my first time on television.
- Oh, you mean not doing a Zoom?
- Yeah.
- Oh wow.
- Yeah, this is my first in studio, it's very exciting.
Hi everybody!
- You look so beautiful!
- Thanks!
- I mean, I need people to know
that even when you're at her house
and you're having dinner,
even in her simple clothes, you feel less than.
(audience laughter)
- You're crazy!
- You're like, "Is that what God intended?"
- No, oh my goodness.
Just sitting down, I've been doing this crazy EMS workout,
electro muscle stimulation,
and my whole butt hurts so just sitting down.
- Wait, does that mean it works out for you?
- It's 20 minutes but it's like working out for four hours.
and you're hooked up to this moist wetsuit
with electronic stuff stuck to your muscles,
and then you do little movements through it,
and then we're all just dying.
All my hair and makeup people, everybody.
We're all dead.
- Everybody sees your body and right now,
(Chrissy laughs)
I think the internet is gonna crash
because everyone is racing to get this.
- No, no.
I'm actually gaining weight through out
and I'm like, "Oh, that's just muscle right?
Yeah, it's for sure muscle.
(Kelly laughs)
- That's what my friend said, she was like,
"How am I working out and getting fatter?"
- I think you get cocky with food, that's why.
- Ah, I just do that in general.
(Chrissy laughs)
So you and John spent the Grammy nights dressed like this
which, this is amazing!
Look at you!
- [Chrissy] We got bored.
- [Kelly] Was that just in your closet?
- We were so bored, I texted one of my stylists, Monica
and I was like, "I feel so bad."
Because she had been asking me for months if we were going
and then, I was under the impression there was no Grammy's
and then you know what it's like
when your award isn't televised
and then you're like, "Oh I probably didn't win,"
or whatever.
- Yeah, yeah.
- And then they're like, "John your award is televised!"
And I was like, "You won!"
- Oh! (Kelly laughs)
He did win!
- He won the un-televised one, yeah.
(audience claps)
- Yeah but whatever, it's best R&B album right?
- [Chrissy] I know!
- Yeah!
- [Kelly] I have another photo though,
so I wanna ask you about what's happening-
- [Chrissy] Oh God! (laughs)
This went over well.
- [Kelly] Did it not?
(Chrissy laughs)
- I was backstage in your beautiful dressing room,
you have hands-down the best dressing room
of any talk show out there, always.
- (gasps) Thank you! Thanks!
- This is even better, somehow.
Okay so anyway, I've been backstage just on my Twitter like
as my daily thing is threatening to quit
or threatening to deactivate,
and then this one I was like, "Oh Instagram's nice though!"
And then nope, they showed me that they were upset.
- What happened? What do you mean?
- We were trying to take beauty glam photos
and he was just in the middle of it
but yeah people were really bothered by it, I don't know.
- My son's hilarious anytime he walks in my bathroom
and I happen to be naked or something
and he's always like, "Naked baby!"
(Chrissy laughs)
- Naked baby!
- And I'm like, now I feel dirty about it.
- My daughter, Luna's always like, "Naked baby!"
- [Kelly] That's what my kids do!
- And I mean, we take baths together, I don't see the issue.
- I think everybody's comfort level is different
but here's my favorite part about any
of this social media stuff.
I love that you clap back, and I love that
the most interesting concept to me is,
why do people -
- follow you?
- I know.
- Follow you, If they don't like you
or if they have a problem with what you're doing?
- [Chrissy] I know.
- It is the most interesting thing to me,
cause I don't have time!
- Cause I have the time, I do, and I'll go to their page,
and it's always they follow me and their page is private,
without hesitation, every time it's like that.
- Wow!
- But yeah, you cause you think they'd know by now,
I haven't changed through all these years.
- [Kelly] Yeah!
- It's just yeah I think people -
- And your social media account is supposed to be
a representation of who you are, like this is who you are,
so like OK cool you don't like it?
Bye!
- And what's really weird is the psychology of it
like really learning about people
because obviously we had a really weird, rough year,
and then when people decide that their pity for you is over,
and "Oh, it's noon and it's time to be mean again,"
like, now it feels appropriate?
- Yeah.
- It's such an odd, icky thing to look at people doing
like it just felt like honestly one weekend,
everyone was like, "Oh we don't feel bad for them anymore,
and we're gonna do this."
- Wow.
- I remember going through all of that,
going through all the emotion after a miscarriage,
or a stillborn, and telling John that like,
"Wow, the amount of love we're getting both in person
and online is like, unheard of for me,
I'm not used to this!"
And then just one day, it was over.
- Now that's just a sad statement!
- Yeah.
- My big thing now is I just want to
follow all the same people I follow, maybe work with Twitter
but not allow anyone to follow me.
- Oh.
- And I don't want to ever speak, but I want my same list-
- Yeah.
- of people that I follow because I genuinely,
it's been 11, 12 years on Twitter now
so those are my buddies!
- Wow!
That's a long time, I forgot.
- Yeah, it's a long time to take a constant beating.
- [Kelly] Yeah.
- But you, (groans)
You would think it would make you stronger, no!
I think weakened me.
- Do you go and I go emotionally, like being
in the limelight in general, I go like a roller coaster.
- [Chrissy] Yeah.
- Like not a severe one, but kinda like a woo!
Cause some days I'm just like, "I can handle anything!"
I'm like, whatever.
And other days I'm like, "Why?"
- Some days I'm like, "I have a beautiful family,
a perfect husband, like I really have an incredible life."
- Blessed.
- And some days I'm like,
"I don't know if I can do this anymore-
- Yeah.
- like this is overwhelming, I don't know I can be on here
and interact with people that want me to fail.
- But that's what I like about you,
you're not perfect online.
That's what I like, and even in person,
like even us at dinner, like you're not perfect,
you're very normal and you're very raw in the moment.
I think that is so freaking refreshing,
- Thank you.
- 'cause I don't think most people are like that.
- It's hard to make mistakes in front of everybody,
- Yeah.
- for that many years.
- But I love that you own it, and you're like, "That's me!"
And then maybe you think it's a mistake,
like even if you do make a mistake you apologize
but at the same time might not be a mistake to you.
You might be like, "Well that's just who I am
or how I am."
- Well tell that to my therapist
because they are just like itching for me to talk to them.
- Well, why don't we trade?
You can talk to my therapist and I'll talk to yours!
(Chrissy and Kelly laugh)
- We'll probably have the same issues, we're so similar.
(Kelly laughs)
- [Kelly] I don't know I hope you don't.
(audience cheers)
- I wanna discuss a serious topic with you as well,
so, we're seeing protests against anti-Asian violence,
and I just wanna know your thoughts on it.
- It's actually what's been happening has been incredible.
A lot of people have been reaching out to me
and wondering how they can help, what they can do
and I love to post tangible things that people can do
because there's all sorts of performative activism.
- Mm-hmm.
- I think we just came out of a long line of politicians
that put a target on Asian people's backs
by calling it "the China virus,"
and so people are seeing Asian people out on the street,
I automatically think of like when my mom's without me,
how do people look at her?
How do people treat her?
A lot of mothers and fathers are being targeted
around the country and it is so obvious to me
what the motive is, it doesn't seem to be obvious
to the politicians out there
that are saying like, "We're not quite sure of the motive."
But I think we know what it is and if people can just
reach out in any way to support the
Asian-American community, AAPI in general,
there's Stop AAPI Hate, which is a wonderful organization
to donate to, and an organization called 18 Million Rising
is really incredible, but also it's little things
like supporting Asian-owned businesses around you,
supporting your local Chinatown,
I mean these things are disappearing quicker
than we know it and soon they're gonna be gone
and it's heartbreaking to me so support any way you can.
Don't just be the person that reaches out via text
and checking in on you.
- [Kelly] Yeah.
- We all have to have each others backs in this
because Asian Americans are Americans!
They came here for, my mother came here for the
American dream, she got to have a cookbook!
- My great grandfather did the same thing!
- Yeah!
- We're all immigrants, we're all from immigrants yeah.
- And it's nobody's birth right here that they are
the only ones to enjoy the fruits of America,
that's just not a fact.
There is plenty for everybody
and we should welcome anyone who wants to come here
to make their dreams possible, that's it.
- Yeah, I think especially having children it's so hard,
and your children!
- It's so odd because they are so young still,
they're 2 and 4, Luna almost 3 and 5.
- They will start picking up though, especially Luna.
- I know, and right now I think what we talk about a lot
is representation, representation in the media
and representation in Disney shows.
Rya The Last Dragon was incredible for us to see-
- I love Raya!
- on television, Luna's like, "Uncle has a Tuk Tuk"
and "Oh, we eat rice porridge in the morning"
and "She has hair like me!"
And you know it's just,
You know first hand, I'm sure,
that kids notice things so early,
- Yeah.
- they notice how they're unique-
- Sponges!
- and they notice their differences and yeah and at school
and they just happen to be more vocal about it
so it's important to explain it to them
in the simplest of ways that they're different
but they're beautiful, they're unique.
But yeah, it's so crazy to me that Luna can look
at a princess and be like,
"Why don't I have blonde, straight hair?"
And I'm like, "It's different
but it's beautiful, don't worry!"
- Yeah, alright so wait I need to talk about this,
just sitting here this is awesome.
We need to talk about your new brand of cleaning products.
- Yes!
- The line is called Safely, my hope
'cause I don't know if you're a mom like me,
I don't like anything that might be damaging,
you know, for my kids.
- No, of course! Pets and children, this is all safe.
It's made with aromatherapy oils-
- Whoa!
- so the smell that lingers is really nice
and really beautiful and really clean smelling
and the best part for me is
that you can use it on all different surfaces.
So we started out really small with just a few items,
but the few crucial items that we need
because Kris and Emma are like
the most incredible entrepreneurs out there,
everyone says like, "Oh girl boss!"
And I'm like, "No, no, no, bosses."
They're just bosses.
And so when they came to me about this product
and wanting to shake up the world of cleaning products,
I was really excited for it
because we are paying attention to labels so much more
in this pandemic and honestly everyone's like,
"Kris Jenner doesn't clean!"
And I'm like, "Are you kidding me,
she's the cleanest person I know!"
You'll be talking to her on a couch
and she'll be eyeballing something in the corner
and then she'll just quickly get up and go pick it up.
She notices if I have something on my shoe
when I come in her house, like she's a nutcase about it
and she's crazy!
- Are you a neat freak?
- I'm like a-
- Your house was spotless!
- I know, I am a neat freak.
- When I came over for dinner.
- John is so different, he's clean, but not neat.
So he looks like the invisible man, like after he goes pee,
and then he takes his clothes off, it'll be like,
shoes, and then like the piping of the jeans
will still be in the shoes and I'm like,
"Are you a firefighter?"
Like are you setting this up so you can get back
into it really quick again?
(Kelly laughs)
But yeah, he's clean not neat.
But I come from the blogging world of like,
constantly filming yourself cooking
and so my recipes take so much longer
because I clean in between absolutely everything.
I do every dish, I clean all the countertops
because I need it to look pretty at all times
so I've always been a nut about it.
- I love cleaning, I find it therapeutic.
- Me too!
- Yeah, well good news for everyone
in our house seats y'all, you are all getting the full line
of Safely Home Cleaning Products!
- [Chrissy] Enjoy it!
- [Kelly] I love you.