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uh... question is a is the world actually more disrupted more violent
more out of control
uh... than ever or quite simply are we seeing more of it and that basically the
same as it has ever been
r_j_ fielder
a host of the online show the young turks also a blogger for the huffington
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this new era and n_b_c_'s tom asked for out live in baghdad a veteran n_b_c_
journalist who's covered conflicts around the world
bob dole freehand
post uh... digital universe tom umma umma to begin with you what is your
sense
haha of the world today in other words are is what we're seeing evidence of the
world that has gotten
more violent more out of control or upset by the board of evidence that we
can see it
i think probably evidence that we can see it i think violence has always been
around that one of the surprising things i think now is how quickly
people will move towards violent confrontation when pushed by the by the
strength of their convictions or the severity of the reaction against them
will prompt them to react violently in the knowledge that they have actions
will be seen around the world impossibly helped by sympathetic people say you are
here in new york university says that both energy existence of the cameras in
the fact that you can get an american audience a western european audience at
an asian whatever it is
quickly if you have a violent protest actually
uh... makes
more willing to ask the weight more quickly to a violent through the
situations a basically for publicidad
i think that
d i think that's part of it is that they can uh... they can certainly get an
audience with a sympathetic or not from different parts of the world up
depending on the severity of the uh... their reaction but also i think you'll
find that in most violent confrontations be they a civil insurrection zl civil
wars or all full of confrontations uh... is that people the amazing propensity
people have to react violently against violence which is perpetrated against
them so if we take for example afganistan iraq who in their right minds
would uh... react violently to the force arrayed against them in this country and
yet people are still fighting uh... right down to what's happening in china
today perceived injustice by one ethnic group against another will cause of i'm
pretty sure that had the cameras not been around then those things would
either be over with very quickly or the level of violence would be lower jane do
you agree with that
hotmail
i don't uh... rueful the people in toronto or protest in the streets were
perfectly peaceful it was a rating government knows cracking there's skulls
and it's not like your mugging for the camera how about when that i got shot
out of nowhere she had no camera was there she just got shot
excavate shut down the press completely it's not like whole while you tube is
your back over there cant wait a ridout solimene joyce in protest now the
protest in iran and china are very real and and and they come from the people
thank god that there's some sort of media in there and empowering them to
show the wrestler world what their oppressive government to do it
time how do you respond to that
well actually i said iraq i did not say iran but you're perfectly right in iran
they went on
and yet the police for the security forces opened fire against them my point
is that people uh... uh... resort to violence as an extreme measure
approaches in the hope that they'll gain something usually economic uh...
advantage usually has something to do with the ethnic discrimination or
whatever in these various parts of the world and people will react violently
when pushed by authorities they will react more readily with violence against
them it seems to me in this day and age one country that stands out to me is
assumed that that up to this point being relatively uncovered by any form of
media guy
youtube or otherwise
is north korea gang why did the white is north korea doing in the with the way
they build their firewalls
and and put in fencing effectively
that we don't see a lot of north korean
output at what we do see a photo of our visit meron dun and elsewhere
well iran is a far more modern country date have been an idea of cellphones
they have satellite dishes et cetera once you have that infrastructure it's
hard to keep things out and you could you be shut down different parts of the
press
but it's hard to shut everything down that's why twitter works so well during
the in government the most couldn't figure out how to bring down twitter up
for quite some time but in north korea they don't have any of that
infrastructure the people are so poor that kept that way by the dictators
partly uh... on purpose because they don't want them to be able to be
empowered for anyway uh... and so head of the best thing we do for north korea
is to give them some of this stuff ido so how will probably be a within north
korea but
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