- Once upon a time
there was a place called "The Wilderness,"
and it waited
and waited
to befriend whoever arrived.
(loud banging)
- There's always this cool thing with this show
where it's like, is it or isn't it?
You know what I mean?
When it comes to the supernatural stuff, it's like
"is this actually some weird supernatural thing
that's going on?
Or is this just a result of our psyches slipping into
a bit of, you know, weird hallucinatory dementia
because of the circumstances that we're living through?"
- [Natalie] We weren't alone out there.
- [Taissa] This isn't where we're supposed to be.
- Post-traumatic stress disorder is real,
and it manifests in different ways.
Taissa is a non-believer,
but it's hard to
deny what's happening to her.
I think it's these great moments
of this woman who won't even go to therapy,
you know, facing this other character,
you know, this other side of her that has,
that sort of takes over and says, "I'm gonna fix you.
I'm gonna fix your life" in the craziest way possible.
But, you know,
yeah, I think Taissa is forced to believe.
- I'm really curious to see how everyone
will interpret her journey.
I think that she's more in the Natalie camp of like,
"that shit's not real," like what's actually happening.
But, at the same time, she's completely out of control
of her own body.
- Yeah. - At night.
- Yeah. - When she's sleepwalking,
and there's something about that,
there's something about that.
So,
she's at least fighting for her belief
that there is nothing to believe in.
She's fighting with herself.
- It's not like this Wicca of bullshit is doing us any good.
- You keep coming back alive, don't you?
- I think Natalie is still very grounded in reality,
and I think it's because she's faced
with the outside world every day,
and she's the one that's hunting and serving everyone.
So she's much more realistic, I think.
For Van, it's like,
"is anyone gonna talk to me about this or not?"
You know, because, I think, for her, it's like,
"well, this is strange," right?
Like there is a symbol we keep seeing everywhere
and like Lottie was right about that bone necklace
keeping somebody safe and those like, it's just,
"is anyone gonna talk about how weird this is or not?"
And then it's like nobody is.
So, what is she left with?
She's left with whether this is real or not.
No one is engaging with me about it except Lottie.
So, why shouldn't I listen to her, you know?
- I think Lottie is probably the only character
out of the '90s that is the one
that just is right on the line
that you can't tell if it is the wilderness,
if it's past traumas and fam-,
things she came into the crash with,
or just her own mental state.
So I would say that she's right on the line.
- We brought it back with us.
- But I do believe that Lottie has a sense
of a higher power,
and I think that's what terrifies her
because she can't keep it away.
It keeps coming back into her life.
So, a lot like these two characters have a lot in common
in regards to the past revisiting and it's-
- Touching on supernatural elements.
- Yeah, yeah.
Touching on supernatural elements.
And I think they interpret it differently.
Like you don't say,
"oh, that's a supernatural moment" to her.
Oh, that seems, but she has a sense of this is not right.
And I think the young Lottie is clearly starting
to feel that.
But it's such an interesting one
because it's starting to come up more.
And as we played those roles, I didn't think of it as that.
I just felt it like we were so in the moment-
- Yeah. - Of everything that was.
- And trauma and all those other things that it could be
other than supernatural
'cause you can't play supernatural unless you're, you know,
on the Ghost Whisperer
and you know it's a supernatural show.
You can't really play that in your reality of a character.
So, yeah.
- And I think Ben Scott
is kind of a perfect example of that.
You know, we start getting into some stuff this season
where it's like what exactly is happening with him?
You know, is he of sound mind?
Is he not?
Is there some external force that is having an impact on him
as it may or may not be with the rest of the people
that are out there with him?
- Yeah, I think Travis is in a unique position
where because he didn't have a lot of communication
with the girls very early on in the story,
part of his belief in what is going on
is also because he wants to be included in something
and he wants to be a part of something
that isn't just himself and, you know, have some hope
in something beyond, you know,
the imminent death of everybody, you know?
So,
that's kind of where he's living in this place of confusion
into what's going on.
And I think that's kind of,
that's a really nice place to be
because you don't really know
and he never really gives you an insight
as to how much he truly believes
or how much he's trying to fit in.
- Our minds are so powerful and,
you know, I know if I'm ever like super hungry, (laughs)
I'm like, "la, la, la," I could believe anything.
And now these people are like starving
and freezing and, you know, going through literal hell.
Everybody is kind of in a place where they could
or could not believe in certain things.
I think Misty doesn't necessarily believe in the wilderness,
but she will stay close to Lottie because Lottie has power,
and that's what Misty gravitates towards.
And,
yeah, I think she always just sees an opportunity
in those kind of spaces.
So I think that she'd like to be very close to it,
but I don't think that she's necessarily,
you know, fully believing what's happening.
- Yeah, and I think Shauna's maybe the one
that's the most skeptical about it.
Even through her pregnancy, when Lottie tries to help,
she just does not want to receive that help.
- Why?
(Courtney and Samantha laughing)
- Cause it's creepy dude.
(all laughing)
So, yeah,
I don't know, which I kind of love,
'cause I'm also not really vibing
with like the whole crystals
and in my like, personal life.
And it was kind of what I was like scared
with the first season,
how like the audience would react
to the whole supernaturalistic elements.
But I do think to some extent it does make sense
because I think when you're deprived
and put in circumstances like they're put in
and you have like nothing to latch onto,
I think you do need to find something
that keeps you moving forward.
And I think Shauna's lucky to have like
maybe her baby that keeps her moving forward,
and I think she's latching more into that
than like the whole spiritual cult side of things.
- You're a murderer? - No,
no, no, no, no.
You,
I mean,
she,
yes.
- I feel like as an adult she's pretty firmly
in the, like, "that was craziness
and let's not talk about it anymore."
It's all just part of a horrible thing
that she'd rather not think about.
- I like keeping it up to interpretation,
interpretation specifically for Lottie
because I feel like if I lean too much one way
and explain Lottie in that sense for fans,
it might take certain things out, certain people out of it.
And that's kind of how I operate on set too,
the ambiguity of the wilderness,
and I kind of just take it instinctually
in the moment of how I feel.
- Yeah.
- Because I think every character reacts to like
that nature's calling in their own way.
I think they all have different personal reasons
to kind of follow that path or follow Lottie.
And so I think it's, yeah, same with the audience,
it's like whichever side they want.
Yeah.
And I think that even if somebody doesn't believe in it
sometimes it's just nice to believe in something
and be a part of something that seems like you might be,
like, you know, they have so little control out there
that the idea of being able to have some sort of like
control or contributing to what is happening
in their surroundings feels nice.
So,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think that though a lot of this whole like
the haunting with Jackie,
I don't think it's actually like, you're like,
"I'm seeing her ghost," you know what I mean?
- Yeah. - Maybe I'm wrong,
but you know. - No, no, no, no.
I fully agree.
I think it's kind of like,
I definitely think that's more her imagination.
I think it's kind of like when you,
I don't know if you've had someone in your family die
and you go to hold their sweater
and try to keep their scent alive.
And I think it's kind of like trying to keep
Jackie's essence alive.
I don't think she actually physically sees her.
I think it's just she's trying to latch onto
the tiniest bits of memories that she has of her.
- We're just not gonna talk about
how she's out in the meat shack all day with deadass Jackie?
- Mari, leave it alone.
- I think it plays into all the characters in some way
and it's so well written that we have these moments
and these flashbacks and these visions,
and I know it's set up quite early for Lottie
when Travis is hanging and she sees,
you know, the young girl who crashes the plane,
[Tawny] Laura Lee. - Laura Lee.
And she sees that happen and it kind of takes her
into this world.
But again, I think
Lottie is the queen of reinventing herself.
So, because that way it keeps away,
she keeps saying it's not real,
and your truest most authentic self when she is not.
And so she's created this illusion that she's graceful,
and she has all this beauty and honesty around her
but when the girls arrive,
the game is up.
And that also comes with the past, the trauma,
the hurt, the pain, the visions, the everything.
When they arrive, it's like, "oh my goodness,
I now have to deal with everything I've escaped.
It unravels her, it pulls her.
Basically, she has to drop the mask
because everything that she's created
and now these women are all here,
what is she gonna do?
So that's such a big hurdle.
And I think at the end of 6,
that's the turning point for all of them.
They're all there whether they want to be there or not.
So, I think for Lottie having all the women there
is really confronting.
And then all the other shit comes to the surface basically.
Everything that they've worked so hard to suppress
really kind of comes to the surface.
And that's the biggest hurdle.
So, from six on,
you're gonna see something completely different.