all right let's uh let's move it on to the last well last subject and hungry
it's gonna be it's gonna be real short I just want to mention it of course obtain
900 enthusiasts op op tain drivers out
pretty awesome incredible
you wanna play PC you gotta pay so obtain the enthusiasts version of off
count of course originally obtained only came out in a caching drive 64 gig 32
gigs pretty cheap though what 70 bucks what were they thinking on the original
I don't know when they're thinking honestly I ate I don't know how was it
that was just saying it was crazy they shouldn't have done that this is the
drive I've been waiting for yeah I gotta say I mean but it is tough because
octane so basically stupid incredible latency and of course stupid you know
endurance which frankly no one should I don't I don't like to mention because it
doesn't matter cuz it just doesn't matter you're never gonna wear an stl so
why even talk about it well if for that crowd who likes to think they're gonna
be riding terabytes of data to the drive this thing will basically last forever
and of course stupid low latency and actually I got to see sequential race
reads and writes not bad two point five gigs two gigs to gig writes it so it's
gonna come out in a in a by four gen 3 PCIe card up to 480 and there's a 218
version and there's a which is a little odd there's a u2 version and only 280
gig capacity the thing that really like is probably gonna be the deal breaker
for a lot of people I'm gonna say the price I think Elena already saw to see
if you saw her frown already is a 480 gig version has a price of $6.99 and 280
is 389 the bleeding edge is not cheap yeah but the thing is I don't know are
we gonna have a review of this well we're so they they did a small seed to
like storage pettishness and if that's not fair I just called
jeredy for for like highly focused sword sights
I thought this is a family show what I was reading some of those and they said
that it rates just as fast at the end of a massive rate as it does at the
beginning of a massive rate is amazing oh I know I gotta say well one of the
problems with this drive and it does like let me just give you an idea and
this is the thing that did for me cuz I saw this thing in March or February they
basically did it a render job running a Linux and they they were rendering 1.1
billion particles and they are saying that same job if you run it on a
competing SSD which pretty much is a 960 pro right samsung 960 Pro it is a 17
point for our job if you move that render to an obtain 900p that goes to a
6.3 our render storage is supposed to affect that that much yeah that's that's
the thing right it's just like they're like yeah wow that's incredible right of
course as a consumer I'm not really rendering 1.1 billion particles in some
Linux renderer so it is it is a is a problem message I think for a lot of
consumers it's it's like am I gonna get battlefield 1 level load times faster
I'm not sure if you are I think if we saw that they would have pushed it
that's already a problem even with nvme drives say I mean you don't really go
that much faster unless you're doing massive amounts of work right so they do
that hardware right and you know one of the the things they like to say about
often is like yeah you know a lot of these nvme drives their their
performance is sort of over-represented because they're it's all based on
writing to the controller and in parallel you're just writing everything
parallel to to the controllers writing all this massive amounts of data to
their world you know what the vast majority of consumers sit there and it's
you know it's just simply oh it was a 1 thread 2 threads at that and it really
the performance of those other drives gets destroyed by even the the the
original caching drives because the vast majority of things people do are
you know writing to all those you know multiple multiple levels and parallel
writing to the drive it just doesn't happen so but that is a pretty hard
message to market to consumers I think we're doing this render around their
million particles or sorry billion but are they really trying to market these
to to consumers I'm well yeah for enthusiasts this is clearly enthusiast
part and you know I I gotta say to be fair I'm you know I this is what
everybody wanted right we all said hey give us a high-end part I will say I as
much as $700 for a 500 gig drive seems like oh my god that's crazy
that is like really reasonable I gotta say I that is not bad because I thought
it would be like performing for the performance and also for the technology
this is this is bleeding edge technology for $700 I really thought it was gonna
be like a thousand or $1500 and people were yeah that's what I thought right
and so like for $6.99 I gotta say that is not bad you know and you know if I
were doing maybe the most crazy build ever to prove hey I got more money than
you yeah that that's not a bad probably not a bad thing to say I got opting you
know so so if you're saying like video producer or a streamer though like
someone who's streaming and then doing video processing move your things over
YouTube and stuff this could theoretically drop that job downtown I
don't know see that's a problem is maybe we should test them you should well we
are gonna get a driver I'm not sure it will I I gotta say I think one of the
one of their problems with octane is like how do you how do you convince like
it's a just does any of this apply I mean if I ran data center like oh man
this thing is awesome to the average person it may not make that much of
difference it's just like as you mentioned going from an nvme drive you
know to a SATA drive a lot of people don't really see that much of a
difference right or an nvme drive to an HCI drive it isn't you don't really
drive performance isn't really everything all the time so there might
be some things that effects yes basically what I was gonna ask which is
I mean it sounds great and really exciting on paper but in terms of
application it seems like one of those things you would buy just to say you
of it as a normal consumer not you know I know it's not something that you'd buy
and say like yeah I I spent some extra cash on it but I I will get something
out of it it just seems more like hey look at
these expensive gold-plated fins on my car
yeah or you know you put it in alongside your you know ten atti box right so
question good so the original the intel obtain cash
drives are locked to kb lake can't work on rides and can't work on old systems
you know this is more of an SSD form factor does it work on other systems or
is that also locked 2 KB leak no it should this is just plain old you know a
PCIe interface it should work with everything
I didn't specifically ask that I but I'm a 99.9% sure this will everything that
original KB Lake thing was really they did that because they didn't want to go
back and say oh man we don't we have to certify this for broad oil and has well
and z77 it's like no we're gonna certify works on z170 or was z2 ya z170 we're
not gonna pay to backdate everything because you know again there's a lot of
mickey mouse lawyers at intel that'll say so they like everything has to work
otherwise they've got such deep pockets everybody wants to launch a lawsuit at
them they didn't want to go back and say oh my god you're losing data on your z
67 border you know no they don't want to doing that so that's why they only did
that i forgot so and you know wasn't really wasn't gonna be a huge huge so it
would suck if you couldn't use your $700 s yeah that would be that that would
just be like well you just wouldn't buy it at that you know yeah but it is also
an nvme pci you drive you know a lot of older systems may not boot nvme so you
do need something more modern but you you certainly could address it as a
standalone drive so but cool question reading this I'm glad glad to hear that
yeah yes we so we'll see you know I mean I really do want to see if it has any
practical applications for consumer we have somebody here who would love to
help you with their mmm-hmm the hololens isn't gonna be
anything viable for consumers for years to come but it's still badass yeah it is
right there yeah you know for and I gotta say I'm I'm I'm as much as I am
pleasantly surprised by the price 782 bleeding edge technology that ain't bad
so any questions uh just you know one one last good one from a mouse I'm
Calvin yeah neglect Texas uh will you ever have a
show where each one of you use the voice of a cartoon character throughout the
full nerd I don't who could actually do cartoon characters can you all do I've
ever tried like Brad my dad did a really good Daffy the duck I could try to let's
show this here no not right now he's not his dad oh well cuz it's in the genes
one of my kids are gonna like bust and do a Mickey Mouse imitation one day I
think I could work I've done a Cartman before I could do macho man I know he's
not cartoon macho man snap into a slim jim
you know Macho Man Randy Savage real life in cartoon is he also was he and
they live no that's is the best movie ever I don't know if anybody's ever seen
it it is a good movie John Carpenter that's before John Carpenter and I I
gotta say all great directors eventually they go off a cliff that's because he
went off a cliff man I remember reading about that fight scene do you remember
the the about the fight scene like how they just kind of did it in one take and
they just like like went at it and just kept going and going and going they had
so much fun with it that's our recommendation so yeah there's gonna be
you have a lot of downtime over the holidays rent they live that's that's
that's my that's my movie wreck of the of the break so so there was totally off
topic but there was an episode of South Park where Timmy and Jimmy get into a
fight and if you pay attention to it is exactly matching I'm gonna find
that now that isn't now of course Elena's like what are you talking about
you old man perfect written on blu-ray yeah what why don't we why don't we wrap
it up at that and also once you let them know what's coming in the future cuz you
know we've got a backlog of questions you've been sending to us we've been
saying we read it we are going to actually get to them we're gonna try to
do an all full nerd reader question episode and next week we're gonna try
for next week if everything works out we're not sure if that will or not but
with Black Friday coming up Oh Elena can flex your muscles and and show off some
some awesome deals I would love to see it like a real time Black Friday like we
just sit here like war room and kind of like pajamas like my hair it just I'd
still be hungover so although I got someone who tweeted at me this week who
actually said hey I saw your build a cheap gaming PC based on Black Friday
sales article from last year are you gonna do it again this year
and I said I really want to but it's just going to depend on what I see turn
up for deals that'd be awesome Sam it's awesome if I want one person
actually winning also a Maxine on YouTube desk and where do you guys
announced dates for the full now learn episodes with the best way to find out
yeah schedules we need to try to get back yes because we used to do we used
to be regular it's gotten bad this summer but if you tune into PC worlds
Twitter account well often let you know there at the day before which is just PC
world or is it PC world some pen at PC world okay yeah and then we also
announced it on our personal Twitter accounts as well you should follow each
and every one of us you'll get a lot of Mickey and person a Shinzon on Gordon's
my Mickey impersonation is a South Park perfect stop forget Marvel today Oh
Marvel - of course they do Damien says Gordon is naturally drunk
Disneyland beer it's okay oh my god they're gonna fire me when I walk out
that door yep you're gone we'll take yourself for the last time
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