today we're going to look at the fox box from Raytech it's got more to go we'll get to that
i've been fitting one today it's just behind us here and we're going to go through some of the
points that i think were really key during that installation process you've got one out on the
table for me and let me guess where you want to start starting the mart you've been your fingers
are in there all day let's have a look then at your moat yeah so this is this this is the mort
and it's full of ectoplasm gary okay for those Ghostbuster fans that are out there okay and it's
in both sides i see so there's two sides to this box yeah two sides obviously one that you're fixed
to the wall and you can tell that bike it's got these external mountings which means you don't
mess with the IP integrity of the box itself okay and the key thing is that yeah there's a
lot of boxes out on the market that are suitable for use with resin but you have to fill them
up with resin yourself yes possibly when you finish the installation this is pre-filled
and again the gel stops the ingress of water this forms the ip seal to all of the cable entries that
are coming in okay so when you're talking about ip range what's your ip rating please of the fox
so it's dual ip rated so it's ip68 which is obviously the six fully sealed against any dust or
the foreign bodies trying to get in there and the air for water so suitable for underwater but it's
also ip69 which is uh i perfected against hot jets of water okay really good and give me an instance
where we might be using this box obviously on the wall here i've brought a conduit in and we'll talk
about that and an NYY cable but there's some other instances that you think are really kind of yes
so the lighting's great i love garden lighting possibly a great uh great app where you have to
bring lots of cables together and join them but also things cctv and some of the smart devices
because what you find a lot of these are often supplied pre-cabled yeah with some cables that
yeah may or may not be ip rated but you might not want to disconnect them so what the idea is you
lay them through the mote and into this open area in the middle where you can make your connections
and that that remains clear of gel if you ever have to get back in there and make
some alterations you're not having to yeah dig dig your way through the gel is providing the ip wreck
and there's different ways of obviously moving in and through the actual seal and it just depends
on whether you're maybe bringing a conduit in or a cable let's start with the conduit so i've got
i've got a footage here gordon so let's have a look at this so the conduit itself is just
cut and just butted up to the section which will need to be split later on in order for the cables
this is the key bit though isn't it gordon top tip put the put that lock ring on yeah and that's the
thing about you don't need to add any additional glanding to the box as you would with a normal
enclosure you'd probably have to have a stuffing gland or a conduit adapter to it these would bring
the conduit in and seal it with that that lock ring that we saw there and it will accommodate
16 20 and 32 mil conduit depending on the adapter now at 20 mil we didn't need an adapter yeah 20
millimeters so there's the one for the the larger conduit and then there's the one for the 16 mil
not very you don't see 16 mil a lot in the uk okay but then yeah bring that lock ring in and then we
just put those up and then we'll talk now about how we penetrate the moat when we're looking at
conduit is that all right do that yeah okay so let's have a look at that then so when we bring
conduit and the first piece of plastic there we don't bring the conduit into the no it stops at
this first barrier but you obviously have to bring the cables through so you have to slit the barrier
in the top and the bottom sections as well how would you do that just yeah with our old friend
the knife just bring the knife in yeah then we just cut through those so if this was a conduit
we make a slip for the cables yeah and you make another slit in the middle and is that just on the
back plate no it's both top and bottom i would say that's a top tip that you've got to make sure that
you do it on both sides are you saying you have to revisit that gary when you're trying to put the
top it's a learning curve i would suggest there so uh yeah so with that then the conduit stops before
the the ceiling compound the cables come through right in order to get that one and then we looked
at using ny cable cable we really like on the channel don't we yeah so this is this product
comes from italy where they use a lot of ny not so you don't see armored cables so much in europe and
we think this is a sort of under used cable uh in the uk market and check out our video on ny
if you haven't seen it but now it's a round cable going in there's a slightly different approach
uh can you remember the diameters that the we can accommodate in here yes so this will go all
the way from six to 18 millimeter cables again depending on the adapter you use exactly okay
but again slightly different approach now so we want to offer this one in so i've got this here so
we bring this one in so what i did here i've got remember the bits again top tip we want to say it
again make sure you put on the bits that you need before you make your final connections there's an
adapter for it again it's got to be the correct way around it's slightly chamfered and then we've
got this bit of kit what's this called this is referred to as the spider in the instructions
yeah black plastic bit with eight legs actually didn't count it's got more than eight legs so
yeah so all of those have to go on first and the correct way round okay and again let's reiterate
that's a top tip because the last thing you want to do is make all those connections and look
down you've missed one of them you're obviously unconnected but this is where the moat comes into
its own gordon so we're going to make a split so we can bring part of the cable into the actual gel
itself then we make a second split in order that our conductors can land a section for terminating
and it's really important that we put the right amount of cable actually into what you call the
moat you want to show us that yeah so that the mod stops something gary actually i would control
capillary action oh right nice big word there can you explain a little bit more for me well a lot
of people and this is from incredibly painful experience in the past that water can get into
an enclosure actually through the middle of the cable so you so if say we had the five-way fox box
sealed up perfectly the moisture could be coming in from the other end of it just bring the camera
in there you guys can see split those conductors up and you'll see here there's a nice little air
gap down there oh right yeah so this could be one end of the cable could be somewhere possibly
unterminated or in the low ip area or somewhere where the seal has failed into our nice box
here but over time as things heat up and cool down water can actually be drawn through the cable okay
so is that where the moat comes into its own so yeah let's have a little closer look at that at
how that would work so to stop that capillary action yeah we'll bring our outer sheath in
to this to this level with this line here okay yep so you've got to have that into that
gel once we bring the top half in okay yeah would seal around those cables and stop that capillary
action from from down there so it wouldn't get past the waterproof gel all right okay
yeah yeah so depending on where you're putting the conduit in or a cable so in this case this ny
cable it depends whether you're in the moat or not in the motor yeah conduit stays out of the motor
cable you bring the sheath in and then split the conductors out obviously with a conduit it would
the singles would go through there anyway you can also bring in a flexible conduit as well
i'd like to think that maybe you'd be using a black one with the lovely black box here not if
you're a newcastle united fan gary okay but yeah so that would that would that would fit in would
fit in there and obviously the flexible cable if you bring that in you'd bring the outer sheath
into the more if it was singles again they're just passing through but they don't mean blackmails
are doing great so maybe you'd be using white and grey together i know you want your black and white
the covers themselves again from experience you've got to be careful to put it on correctly they're
in the instructions it's a firm press at the top and then in each corner it's not so clear
on here so obviously i've laid my cables within the enclosure i've made all my appropriate slits
and now it's a case of just firmly pushing the lid on and obviously these two sections then seal
to give you the ip rating wind in my nuts in order to make sure the connections but
there's some other nuts so i've got to wind in as well gordon yeah so we've
got the five-way version here so we've just blanked off the the remaining two
unused ways with the lock nuts that come with that but yeah you can get a three-way version
and you can also get a two-way version can you because we've used it here just remind me which
one of the stones this is down here yes we've got fred we've got fred which i think we'll probably
need to look at in another video because that's again a sort of smaller version of this that stops
that capacitor a slightly smaller version yes it is but for what i used it for to make that
connection from an my boy cable to the actual light itself i thought that was a great way of
making that final connection yeah it's very tight down here sometimes some installations i've seen
now you end up with a bigger junction box than the light fitting okay as always we're interested in
the boxes you're using in outdoor installations are you currently using either the thread or the
fox box in order to make your connections where would you use them in electrical installations we
always want those comments please leave them below and we'll try and get back to as many as we can