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- Today's video is gonna be a little bit different.
We're gonna talk about some problems that we had
that we ran into while making this
triple-surround setup here, as well as talking about
how to set up an Nvidia Surround display.
I actually got quite a few comments on how to do this,
and what I do recommend, if you're going to use this
single graphics card, like we did here,
get one with three DisplayPort outs.
And so, the 1070 Ti from Galax
that we're using had just that.
Now, the monitors we have had DisplayPort in's,
and that's pretty important because DisplayPort is
just that interface that's so straightforward to use.
I do prefer it over the others, as I've never
had problems in the past using it.
I couldn't imagine if you're using HDMI,
or if you're using DVI, especially,
you might run into some different problems,
especially if you're mixing DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort.
I don't know what that would be like,
but for what it's worth, we use three DisplayPorts,
and we're running it off of the single graphics card.
And you just go into the menu, after you've installed that,
it'll recognize three monitors, and then you can go into
the Nvidia control panel, and it'll just have the
option there to enable Surround.
And then you do have to fiddle around a little bit
to get the monitors configured, so,
your mouse can then just span over the whole three displays.
Once you've done that, you're good to go.
But besides that, there was also some really weird problems
that we ran into with this build,
and that was to do with the motherboard.
And a weird thing that I've never seen before was,
we initially built the PC, and I went to press "power",
like I was getting the B-roll done,
and I went to get the power button shot,
and it just wouldn't turn on.
And at this stage, I was just,
I was livid, because the memory was lighting up,
the board looked like it was getting power,
and so usually that means you might have a
dead motherboard on your hands.
And I said to myself "no way, this can't be possible"
because if it was a dead motherboard,
I gotta go and pull literally everything out of this build
and then replace the motherboard.
And so, what I ended up doing was starting to go through
the process of diagnosing problems,
and this is where things got even weirder.
Because on Ryzen, there is like a little bit of a
weird hack that if you've got the power left on,
and you insert a CPU, then it will turn the computer on.
And so we tried doing this, and the power just sort of
drained out for a second, and then went back on.
And I was like, at this stage, thinking
"yep, I've definitely got a dead motherboard"
because, we tried taking the power switch out,
and sometimes the power switch itself,
on a case it's very rare, I only usually have it
happen on cheaper cases, the power button can be faulty,
and it doesn't turn on.
In that case, you can change it to the reset button,
or you can use what I used, and that's a little gold finger
and use that to short out the power pin,
and try and boot it that way.
So, we tried that first, didn't work,
then we tried inserting the CPU.
That didn't work, and then I just said to myself
"Okay, I'm gonna try to change the memory"
and so I changed the memory around,
and miraculously, it worked!
And I'm sitting there, scratching my head, like
"wow, okay, I've never had a board not boot
and then you change the memory over and it boots like this"
I mean, I have had it happen before, where it just
doesn't boot, but this is very weird.
Anyway, so, we ended up changing the memory
back to the Vengeance Pro, and then it booted up fine.
So, I was just left scratching my head.
But after that, everything was then smooth and good to go.
But one other thing I'll talk about with Ryzen
is there is a problem that's been prevalent in
practically every motherboard manufacturer across both
the 300-series and the 400-series motherboards,
and that is when you've got an SSD installed,
and the hard drive installed at the same time,
and then you try to install Windows on your computer,
if you install it on the SSD, which is where you'd want to
install Windows because it'd be faster, snappier, etc.
It'll actually install the system reserve files
on the hard drive.
And this happens so much, and I'm like,
scratching my head again, on why this is happening,
but if you do have this problem come up,
what you can do is about it is
identify it straight away by going into
format hard drives, and just seeing
if C drive has your system reserves.
And if it doesn't, you may wish to
reformat your whole computer, because the only way you're
really getting ahead of this is by
reformatting your computer, unfortunately.
I've tried doing a lot of different solutions, didn't work.
Now, another problem that can come from that is also
the hard drive, if it's over two terabytes,
and it's got system reserve files on it,
then you won't be getting any more than
two terabytes of storage out of that drive.
So there's another reason why you might want to reformat.
So, when it comes to reformatting the machine,
if you do have this problem on Ryzen,
what you can do about it, is then just disconnect your
hard drive when you're installing Windows,
install on the SSD, monitoring Windows, everything's fine,
turn it off, connect the second hard drive up,
and then boot back into Windows, format it,
and you should be all good to go.
So now we got some questions about this
build in particular on the video,
and they were some really good questions.
The first being, why would we use a Ryzen CPU on
World of Warcraft, especially since it likes that
single core, higher core clock IPC.
And so, you've got like a few people recommending
the 8350K, which is absolutely fine,
but I found with this, I wanted to
try Ryzen 5 on World of Warcraft.
And, not only that, of course we've got the options there
to overclock on a budget, and I wanted to see
what kind of price performance we could get.
Ryzen ran really well for World of Warcraft
once you overclocked it, and, more particular,
looking at that Vengeance Pro memory,
you have to get good DDR4 memory that goes to
around 3200 MHz at least, with an XMP profile.
If you've got that, your memory's going to run really well,
Ryzen's gonna be getting more performance.
And then we've got the CPU clocked to 4.1 GHz.
Now, taking it above that on a
B350 Motherboard like the Pro 4, it's a budget choice,
so I wouldn't expect it to go to 4.2,
even though it probably could, I wouldn't
run it every day at those settings,
just because the motherboard itself isn't exactly the best.
But also another good question that
came out of that video was,
what's the difference between the
stock Ryzen cooler and also the H60.
And, on this particular build, since this is a
six-core, twelve-threaded Ryzen twelve nanometer CPU,
it's not going to be pushing out actually that much heat.
But when it does push out the heat when you overclock it,
it does need something better than the stock cooler
to keep it under wraps.
And so, the H60 is gonna make a big difference
over the stock cooler, especially once you
start going past 3.8 GHz, for example.
So, in this case, we're able to get that
extra performance and use this cooler.
And the great thing is, when you get a cooler like this,
you can port it from build to build.
Or if you want to upgrade to an
eight core 16 threaded Ryzen,
then you've got the option to keep that
under wraps as well, if you overclock it.
So, I can recommend coolers like that,
more so, not just in the sense that you're gonna get
overclocked out of it right now, but you can also keep
using it as the future go forward.
And that about wraps up today's video,
if you guys enjoyed this one,
then be sure to hit that like button.
And also we actually did get one more question
about this case in particular, this Spec-05,
and the airflow on the build,
and so if you are getting this case
and you are putting higher-end components
than what we did today, then I would recommend
maybe getting a couple of more fans at the front,
even possibly some fans at the top here and
blowing air out of the case, because it will get hot
with the graphics card inside,
especially since it's not a reference blower model
that's sucking air and blowing it out of the case.
But we did have the H60's we saw in the temperature test,
and that's actually pushing hot air out of the case as well,
so it's not only keeping the CPU cool,
but it's also working to help keep the case airflow
better than it otherwise would be.
So, we really didn't see the need in this case
to put any extra fans in,
and when we were gaming, we didn't have any problems
whatsoever too, even when we overclocked the graphics card.
But hopefully you guys can gain some insight
on Nvidia Surround, and also some of the problems
that go on here behind the scenes,
it's not always smooth sailing when it
comes to doing these builds.
I got really frustrated setting this thing up initially,
and it was just a problem that, as I've said before,
that I've never seen before, but also, we did have problems
trying to get World of Warcraft installed,
where we copied it from the NAS,
and it wasn't being recognized,
and so I just bit the bullet,
I'm like "yep, just redownloading it again"
and then we got it working after a few hours.
So, usually, it seems like Murphy's lore does hit me
pretty hard, when something can go wrong, it usually does.
But that aside, I'll catch you guys
in the next tech video very soon.
Peace out for now, bye.
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Also, the last thing I'm getting asked about
after I did this setup video, for some reason,
is this desk right here, and I picked this up when I was
building the studio a while back,
and we actually hustled this table.
So, like, everything in this studio has
pretty much been like a deal.
We got this for 150 Aussie dollars for the
whole desk itself, and that was essentially,
when I went to the stores, they were looking for
at least half a grand,
for something that's like, this thick.
And also, of this quality.
So when I saw this, I just had to pretty much
put my hand on it give it a nice caressing,
and I realized, it was a really good desk.
And so, of course it was really heavy,
but then we made a custom stand for it,
because the guy was only selling just
the actual top itself, so, the stands were like 20 bucks,
and then I've never looked back since then.
So, literally got an amazing desk for a third,
at least a third of the price that you'd
get it for at the stores.
I don't know what make and model it is specifically,
I just saw it, and I was like,
"yep, like this one, and I'm getting it."