THAT WE JUST TEASED FOR YOU.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THERES MORE
FALLOUT, TODAY, IN THE WAKE OF
THAT REPORTED $32 MILLION PAYOUT BY FOX ANCHOR BILL OREILLY, TOUT
BY FOX ANCHOR BILL OREILLY, TO LIS WIEHL.
LIS WIEHL.
ANNOUNCEING YESTERDAY ON HIS PODCAST, AS FOLLOWS.Y ON HIS
PODCAST, AS FOLLOWS. >> AM I MAD AT GOD?
YEAH, IM MAD AT HIM. I WISH I HAD MORE PROTECTION.
I WISH THIS STUFF DIDNT HAPPEN.
I CANT EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. YEAH.T EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
YEAH.
IM MAD AT HIM.
IF I DIE TOMORROW AND I GET AN
OPPORTUNITY, ILL SAY, WHAT DID
YOU GUYS WORK ME OVER LIKE THAT? DIDNT YOU KNOW MY CHILDREN WERE?
DIDNT YOU KNOW MY CHILDREN WERE GOING TO BE PUNISHED?
AND THEYRE INNOCENT.
BUT THEN, I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE
HAVE A MUCH, MUCH ROUGHER THAN ME.E A MUCH, MUCH ROUGHER THAN
ME.
AND IM A BIG MOUTH.
IM A TARGET.
THEYRE NOT TARGETS. >> HE WISHES HE HAD MORE
PROTECTION.
PROTECTION.
OREILLY ACCUSER, JULIET HUDDY,
A FORMER FOX NEWS ANCHOR, WAS
HERE IN A MEGYN KELLY EXCLUSIVE,
SPEAKING OF THE DOWNSIDES OF SETTLING CASES LIKE THIS, WHICH
USUALLY, LIKE IN HER CASE, END
IN NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS.
SHE WAS OPEN HERE ABOUT HER FEAR
IN SAYING ANYTHING AT ALL.
ARE YOU SCARED TODAY?
>> IM TERRIFIED.
IM ACTUALLY TERRIFIED.
I DONT KNOW WHY IM ABOUT TO
CRY.
>> TERRIFIED OF RETRIBUTION. BEFORE THE END OF OUR SHOWN.
BEFORE THE END OF OUR SHOW YESTERDAY, BEFORE THE 9:00 HOUR
HAD CONCLUDED, FOX NEWS FIRED
JULIETS BROTHER, JOHN HUDDY, A
FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT.
BY THE END OF THE DAY, FOX NEWS HAD ITS OWN STATEMENT. FOX NEWS
HAD ITS OWN STATEMENT. FOLLOWING A THOROUGH
INVESTIGATION INTO A PHYSICAL
ALTERCATION EARLIER THIS MONTH,
FOX NEWS MADE THE DECISION TO
SEVER TIES WITH JOHN HUDDY.
THE NETWORKS INVESTIGATION
CONCLUDED LAST WEEK.
AND DUE TO OBSERVATION OF THE
SABBATH ON FRIDAY, TERMINATED
HUDDYS EMPLOYMENT THIS MORNING.
JULIET MAY FEEL TERRIFIED BUT
SHE IS NOT ALONE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED OVERWHELMING
RESPONSES FROM OUR VIEWERS,
SHARING SIMILAR EXPERIENCES OF
SEXUAL HARASSMENT WITH US.
A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.
KIM CLARKE TOLD US, THIS
HAPPENED TO ME.
IT STICKS WITH YOU WHATEVER. YOU WATCH WHERE YOU WORK, AND
HOW YOU DRESS BECAUSE SO MANY
DONT UNDERSTAND.
DONT UNDERSTAND.
YOU JOANNE GRAHAM SAID, I HAD TO
LEAVE MANY JOBS DUE TO SEXUAL HARASSMENT.JOBS DUE TO SEXUAL
HARASSMENT.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON PROBABLY
FOREVER.
AND ITS NOT JUST BIG COMPANIES.
I AM HOPING IT STOPS ALTOGETHER. BUT I DOUBT IT EVER WILL.GETHER.
BUT I DOUBT IT EVER WILL. JOINING US TO DISCUSS IT, KATE
SNOW.
SNOW.
AND CYNTHIA McFADDEN. THANK YOU FOR BOTH COMING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
>> THAT LAST LINE, I DONT KNOW
IF IT WILL EVER STOP.
THATS BEEN THE DEBATE IN THE
PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH
WEINSTEIN AND OREILLY.
WILL IT?
WILL IT?
>> IT WILL BE HARDER TO GET AWAY
WITH IT.
AS THE CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE
BETWEEN WOMEN STARTS TO CRUMBLE,
MAYBE WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF
CHANGE.
I DONT KNOW.
BUT KATE AND I WERE IN THE GREEN
ROOM.
AND EVERYBODY IN THE GREEN ROOM
AND THE MAKEUP ROOM WAS LIKE,
ME, TOO.
US, TOO.
>> WHEN YOU LISTEN TO JULIET.
>> YEAH.
WHEN WE LISTEN TO ALL OF THE
WOMEN WHO HAVE COME OUT.
THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO ME
WERENT AS SEVERE, AS THE THINGS
THAT HAPPENED TO THE WOMEN WHO SETTLED LAWSUITS.THE WOMEN WHO
SETTLED LAWSUITS. AND WOMEN WHO HAD XRL ACTCRIMINA
COMMITTED ON THEM.
ITS HAPPENED TO ME. IT HAPPENED TO YOU.
IT HAPPENED TO YOU.
>> WHEN I COVERED THE COSBY
SITUATION, I DONT KNOW IF YOU
REMEMBER I TALKED TO 27 ACCUSERS
IN 1 ROOM.
I REMEMBER BEVERLY JOHNSON,
FORMER SUPERMODEL SAYING, WE ARE
MOVING THE NEEDLE.
AND THAT WAS WHY THEY, AT THAT
MOMENT IN TIME, A COUPLE YEARS
AGO, WANTED TO SPEAK OUT.
THEY FELT THAT THEY WERE
EMBOLDENING OTHERS.
EMBOLDENING OTHERS. MANY OF THEM, THEYRE
GRANDMOTHERS NOW.
GRANDMOTHERS NOW.
THIS HAPPENED SO MANY YEARS AGO, THEY FELT THEY COULD NEVER TALK.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN ON A
POSITIVE NOTE, A CULTURAL CHANGE
IN THIS COUNTRY, WHERE ITS NOW
OKAY TO VOICE THINGS THAT
WERENT OKAY, EVEN 20 YEARS AGO.
>> I FEEL LIKE, IF WE HAVE A
SCALE FROM 0 TO 100, AND 100 IS,
THIS DOESNT HAPPEN ANY LONGER
OR WHEN IT DOES, THERES ZERO
TOLERANCE, I FEEL LIKE WERE AT
17% ON THE SCALE.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SO FAR TO
GO.
GO. EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD COSBY ACCUSE
ACCUSERS AND AT FOX, THE SUMMER
OF 16.
OF 16. AND WEINSTEIN, ALL THE WOMEN,
THE WEINSTEIN ACCUSERS, THEY
WATCHED THE THING HAPPEN AT FOX
NEWS LAST SUMMER.
A WHOLE YEAR AND A HALF WENT BY.
WOMEN ARE AFRAID.
THEYRE AFRAID, LIKE JULIET WAS
AFRAID.
AFRAID.
THEYRE AFRAID THAT EVEN KNOWING WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF A SEAG
WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF A SEA CHANGE, WERE STILL AT THE
BEGINNING.
BEGINNING.
>> WE MIGHT BE MORE -- I WOULD SAY MORE TOWARD THE MIDDLE.ULD
SAY MORE TOWARD THE MIDDLE. >> ME, TOO.
>> ONLY BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT
THERES POWER IN NUMBERS.
AND THE ME, TOO -- THE #METOO
PHENOMENON SHOWS, ONE OF THE
WOMEN OVER THE WEEKEND WHO
ACCUSED A DIRECTOR, JAMES TOEBEK
OF NIGHTLY NEWS, SAYING HER AND
OTHER ACCUSERS, FOUND THE HRTASH
TAG OF HIS NAME.
THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN
THAT WAY.
THAT WAY.
WOMEN ARE ABLE TO FIND EACH OTHER.ARE ABLE TO FIND EACH
OTHER.
>> DONT YOU THINK ITS BIZARRE THAT WERE IN THE NEWS BUSINESS
AND EVEN -- I DIDNT KNOW YOU
HAD A STORY.
WERE IN THE NEWS BUSINESS.
WERE IN THE BUSINESS OF
REPORTING.
REPORTING.
AND YOU AND I HAD A DISCUSSION
YEARS AGO.
DO YOU REMEMBER THIS?
>> YES.
>> WE DID A ROUND TABLE FOR
WOMEN REPORTERS.
MORE THAN A DECADE AGO.
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE TALKING ABOUT SCORING DRUGS.LIKE TALKING ABOUT
SCORING DRUGS.
I DONT DO DRUGS. BUT LIKE THIS IS HOW I
IMAGINE -- HEY, YOU PARTY?
LIKE, YOU TEST THE WATERS TO SEE
IF SOMEBODY HAS A STORY.
AND THERES AN INTIMATION BUT
YOURE TOO SCARED TO SAY WHAT IT
IS.
IS.
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
>> WHEN I WAS 15, A DOCTOR, MY
DOCTOR, --
>> ITS HARD TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> YEAH.ARD TO TALK ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH.
WHEN I REJECTED HIS OVERTURES,
HE STARTED TO STALK ME AND
SHOWED UP AT ANY AFTER-SCHOOL
JOB.
>> YOU WERE 15? >> YEAH.ERE 15?
>> YEAH. YEAH.
YEAH.
AND THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. ILL GIVE YOU ONE.APPENED.
ILL GIVE YOU ONE. I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS
HARASSMENT AS JUST PLAIN,
OLD-FASHIONED DISCRIMINATION.
OLD-FASHIONED DISCRIMINATION. WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION.
WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION. TOOK A JOB.
SAID TO THE GUY WHO WAS OFFERING
THE JOB.
THE JOB.
I KNOW YOU ARE OFFERING ME HALF OF THE PAY OF THE MAN BEFORE ME.
AND HE SAID THATS RIGHT.
YOU DONT HAVE A WIFE AND KIDS
TO SUPPORT.
TO SUPPORT. TAKE IT OR DONT.
>> THATS JUST GENDER INEKTQUITY
LUCKILY, NBC IS A GREAT WAY TO
WORK.
WORK.
IVE HAD NO WISHES AT NBC.
I USED TO WORK AT A DIFFERENT
NETWORK, WHERE MY FIRST LIVE
SHOT EVER, IM STANDING AT THE
WHITE HOUSE, AND THE MALE ANCHOR WITH AN OPEN MIC, I HAVE AN EARR
WITH AN OPEN MIC, I HAVE AN EAR PIECE IN, LOOK AT HER.
SHES PALE.
SHES PALE. CAN SOMEBODY SLAP HER CHEEKS AND
GIVE HER SOME COLOR.
>> DID YOU VOLUNTEER TO SLAP HIS
AFTER THAT SEGMENT?
>> I REMEMBER IT.
IT WAS SO STUNNING.
AND I WAS MUCH YOUNGER THAN I AM
NOW.
NOW.
AND I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO
RESPOND.
AND ITS MIXED, TOO.
THAT PERSON ENDED UP BEING A
MENTAL TORE TO ME MENTOR TO ME IN OTHER WAYS.
>> I WAS HARASSED BY ROGER
AILES.
AILES.
AND EVENTUALLY, HE LEFT ME
ALONE.
AND WE GOT BACK ON SOLID
FOOTING.
AND HE BECAME A BOSS AND A MENTOR FOR ME FOR YEARS AFTER.
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN
RELATE TO THAT.
WE, AS WOMEN, ARE FORCED TO
NAVIGATE OUR WAY THROUGH THOSE
SITUATIONS.
SITUATIONS.
WAY MORE OFTEN THAN WE SHOULD
BE.
>> A NITA HILL.
THE REASON THAT PEOPLE DIDNT
BELIEVE HER, THE PERSON WHO
HARASSED HER, CLARENCE THOMAS,
WAS A MENTOR.
AND SHE FOLLOWED HIM TO A NEW
JOB.