- And last month we had Khloe Kardashian on the show
talking about her Dose & Co. 28 Days of Glow Challenge,
which I'm on like day four, I think.
We'd never met before, but in many ways
we are going through the same things in life.
A lot of us are.
Let's just say it's why we can both appreciate it
Singles Awareness Week, and maybe some of you as well.
Our conversation went on longer
than we could squeeze into one episode.
So I want to share more of that chat today.
There was a part where we got to talking
about rumors and co-parenting
and if you experienced that yourself,
you know how difficult that could be,
but it's also satisfying when it works.
We certainly share a similar perspective.
So take a look.
There's a rumor that you're moving to Boston.
I actually love Boston.
I almost went to school in Boston.
So is there any truth to that?
I love Boston.
- I do love Boston.
I don't have any issue with Boston.
But you know, with COVID and everything,
I just don't want to uproot my daughter
more than with all the changes
that's happened so far this year.
And you know, oh, my girl (laughing).
- Well, and it'd be hard too to separate from your family.
Isn't your whole family kind of based here?
- We're all in L.A. and we live so close to each other
and with her not being able to have her classes
and all that, she's with her cousins every single day.
And I can't take that away from her.
But it's nothing against Boston.
It's just for the best of my daughter.
- Yeah, I'm just saying, but if you want to go to,
I'm not even a sports ball fan, but man,
I love watching sports ballgames in Boston.
Those people are crazy like Texans.
They are so into it.
But oh, co-parenting.
I've heard that you speak about co-parenting
and I'm doing that right now too.
It's tough.
Is it harder than you thought?
You know, is it working with you and Tristan?
I know with me and Brandon it's just a difficult thing
'cause we're in different places.
And it's like we both agree on the main things,
but it's a hard thing when you're not together all the time,
for me personally.
Has it been hard for you?
- You know, my parents were the most perfect example
and I was really blessed and fortunate
to have that as my example and to see that.
And even with my stepdad and the integration of all of that
and how my dad and my stepdad dealt with one another
was really just such a beautiful thing to witness.
They played golf once a week.
And I'm sure that wasn't easy for my dad,
but he did it for us.
And so having that really selfless example
was awesome for us.
So I think with all of us,
whether it be Kourtney and Scott or Tristan and myself,
we definitely, I try to mirror that
and always keep it about the kids.
But with Tristan, it's a trust thing
and Tristan is so great and really trusts me as a mom
and knows I'm always gonna do the right thing for True.
So he really doesn't tell me no a lot of the times.
And I'm grateful for that 'cause I think as moms
we just sort of feel like we have the right to like,
we know what we're doing with our kids.
But it was funny, the other day I wanted,
True is gonna be three in April,
and I wanted to give her her very first trim.
And when I mean trim, like not even half an inch.
I just wanted to cut some of her baby hairs.
And Tristan I don't think has ever told me no,
and he really freaked out by me wanting to cut her hair.
And I just, it was so crazy to me how he was freaking out.
He called my brother for my brother to talk me out of it.
He called my mom.
I was like, oh, my God,
I wasn't gonna give her a trim if you.
I didn't know he was that adamant about it
until everybody else started calling me.
But I didn't do it because I also have to show him
that, okay, if you don't want me to do something that badly,
I'm not gonna do it. - Yeah.
- So it's just I think great with communication
and trust is the most important thing
I think with raising kids.
- Yeah, absolutely, I think you're right too.
I think that's what Brandon and I focus on too.
It's like as long as you make sure it's about the children
and their best interest, then we're both on board.
It's so funny you said the hair thing though,
because my, this was when I was married,
my mom, I came home and my mom had just cut my child's hair.
(laughing) I was like.
And my husband and I were just kinda like at the time,
my husband and I, we were like, wait, what?
And you can't just like, and it's to this day,
it's our biggest thing and she hates this joke.
She's gonna hate this so make sure this stays in,
but she hates that we bring it up.
I'm like, you just want to, should I leave my kid with you?
Or am I gonna come back with them
and they're gonna have a haircut?
I'm like, you have to ask someone to do that.
It's so funny that you mentioned that you.
You and Kim and Kourtney,
who was the biggest troublemaker when you were younger?
- Oof, well, I could speak for myself.
I was definitely a terror from probably 14 to 17.
(laughing)
I've stolen a couple cars. - What.
- I actually burned one of my mom's cars on fire, accident.
I didn't, it's a whole thing.
How long is this show, 'cause it's gonna take a while.
- Oh, my gosh.
- So I was, yeah, I was probably my mom's
just biggest like thorn in her side,
but you know, that's what moms do.
I never would know that.
She has never said that to me,
but just thinking of what I put her through,
it's ah, I feel so bad.
And now I'm just like, I pray this doesn't happen to me
and what can I do?
- I hope you don't swim in that karma, ma'am.
That's some rough karma as far as being a mom.
I was terrified, I think because,
I think religion did a good job
for me as a child of terrified.
I was terrified I was gonna go to hell for anything,
so I would've never.
If somebody would've been like, we're gonna steal a car,
I'd be like, I'm gonna make a new friend.
I would have been like I am not going to hell for this.
I was so terrified.
- Well, it was my parents car.
Every time I stole one, it was my parents.
But still it's stealing.
- Still wouldn't have, but that's way different.
Okay, gotcha, okay, loud and clear.
Well, how has being a mama
changed your relationship with your mom?
Because I agree with you.
Like my mom, she was a single mom
for a lot of my developmental years with me
and my brother and sister around.
So it was just us.
So it was really interesting to see that dynamic.
And now I'm a single mom with my two.
And it's an interesting thing
to kind of a different vantage point,
a different perspective, looking back at her life
and being like, ooh, that was hard.
That must've been hard.
- Oh, totally, and I think the minute I got pregnant
I had so much empathy and compassion for my mom
and just so much guilt too
for everything I've put her through or my attitude.
And my mom is also my manager.
So sometimes those lines get blurred.
If we're having an argument
about something business related,
we know how to separate it.
But if someone's probably watching us,
they're like, oh, my goodness.
Like how I speak to her is crazy.
But now I think I have a totally different way
of just even talking with my mother
and receiving what she has to say to me,
even if it's from a workplace.
Because I'm now a mom and I just have
so much more empathy and compassion.
And I also understand why she drinks every day at 5:00.
(laughing)
- Or sometimes before 5:00.
(laughing) No judgment.
Well, besides besides drinking a glass of wine
or doing something like that, what do you guys do to relax?
- Weirdly, we love crime shows.
So every Friday or Saturday, we watch "Dateline" or "20/20."
I know it sounds insane, but my sister Kim, my mom, and I,
we love to watch them and we call each other.
We're like, did you watch that "Dateline?"
And I'll be out with my mom.
And this is a true story.
A bird flew over my head.
And she was like, oh, my God, duck!
I saw on "20/20" that someone got murdered by a bird
but they thought the husband did it.
And they found out years later that it was really this bird.
I have no idea,
but she literally freaks me out all the time now.
I think everything's like something bad's gonna happen.
But it does relax us in the moment.
It's the aftermath that's a little too PTSD.
- I was gonna tell you,
I used to be obsessed with "Dateline."
And then I started to realize
how completely crazy nervous I was alone in my house.
I would be like, I've gotta check every door.
I mean, they can climb.
I saw this on one "Dateline" special,
I mean, she was on the third floor.
They got her on the third floor.
How did they even get in there?
I don't know.
I mean, part of it was like
I'm gonna know how to defend myself.
I'm gonna be ready for everything.
And the other part of me was just freaked out to sleep.
I was always like this sleeping.
But I can't watch it anymore.
But I was obsessed with it too.
It's oddly weird how you get into the story
and you feel like you're a part of it.
(audience clapping) She's so great.
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for more info on how to join Khloe
and the 28 Days of Glow Challenge.
And watch the final season
of "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" this Spring on E.