after information up came out that Edward snowed in
leaked that the NSA was spying on us a group of hackers
decided that they were going to ban the fed's from going to the death
con conference in Las Vegas now this is a conference
that has about 15,000 hackers researchers corporate security experts
and privacy advocates
any they have traditionally had you know
members of the government come and and you know work with them collaborate with
that which I find a little questionable
if I we're a self you know labeled
hacker I wouldn't want anything to do with the feds at all but anyway they do
it they work together
but this year the founder love Def Con has decided to
let the feds know that they are not invite in fact he said the following:
it would be best for everyone involved is the fed's call a timeout
and not attend dusk on this year the community is
digesting things that the feds have had 8 decade to understand and come to terms
with
a little bit of time and distance can be a healthy thing especially when emotions
are running high I do to get news for you
the feds are already there there are yeah so this is this conference is set
to take place August 2nd there are you there they're like hiding in the ceiling
matter in the closet it's there under the floor floorboards there there there
right is there any chance the feds are not hacking
the hacking conference isn't that the point
have hacking yes inconceivable that they're not
yeah that monitoring in some way but I respect this guy for like saying
also is not like never didn't come again itself as a regional break
he said he's like a love you you for ten years you sorta you got a handle that
you're doing this
and maybe you guys are convinced that you're not doing things inappropriately
we just got this this and it's rough you need and if you're there were just gonna
be only to the whole time we will get any more hacking
if he seems like beer in a relationship rightly I just found out that you've
been cheating on me for ten years so
yeah I need a little break and a little afraid to get this thing out
so but to you Alexander the hell that essay
had actually gone to a previous conferences and he had
given speeches at the US and he had specifically
addressed %uh spying the government spying on people
and you know he basically said that it was nonsense and factors up part one of
his speeches he said
the people who would say we are doing that should know better that is absolute
nonsense
yeah and then Jeff Moss of course was not amused by that he's like alright was
obviously lying to us
but as a hacker you should know that they are lying to you so another reason
I
suspected they been working together all this time is that now
that you we think I've hackers as like people that are like wearing
a hoodie and their you know title in their anonymous thing either V for
Vendetta mask are on george Zimmerman should know
yeah right and in there a hacking into the government into corporations that no
but of course the reality is low on the hikers
work for the government right and they work for corporations and corporations
want to keep
their secrets and it's perfectly reasonable to want to keep your
corporate secrets
you know the people have a right to Cocos formula et cetera right
so there's a huge community involving
a great number of professions you know and professionals
any and new understandably dennis is part of it
saying look we need to protect our secrets against hackers a center so the
good news conference together
the meanwhile the NSA is in time in fact is affirmatively lying to them
is saying all well of course we're not hacking new
meanwhile in fact they're having all of us
right this is just a big high-tech version spy versus spy
it's like on one hand they have to really admire the government at some
level that they were able to do this for so long and nobody knew
and these are the best 15,000 hackers in the country in the world to me I gotta
kinda respect
this thing went down and then on the other hand it's like well
they're screwing up our unspoken game up what we don't do so
yeah and and so the reality is that an essay
we know now does have information on all the people they've ever called
doesn't even look at that information but they do have that information they
know how long be called where they called from et cetera
and they have access to their emails to their web searches as senate again we
don't know they looked at him
but given that they are presumably
some hope the best hackers in the world you think if they're gonna look at
anybody's
information it would probably be theirs
and so I think Jeff Moss
is be a little kinda I sure your break does it here
I got news for you have they probably look at yourself frame
and at this point you really have to be incredibly naive to say on or the
government wouldn't do that
you know it's really funny the first year they had this conference Jeff Moss
invited the fed's they wanted a
near the fence to come in you know work with them and collaborate as you mention
jiang
and they had declined the invitation however
some members of the government showed up incognito your
was your night yeah I don't know how we broke free and by the way did
the guys who were doing all the lives you know violating the privacy doing all
the happy Center
will then turn around and do propaganda in the popular press alike
the hacker our state can't be trusted
there so devious and underhanded et cetera
meanwhile the hackers alike you guys are so underhanded
week like we can trust you Pacifico
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