Welcome back everyone it's Charlie this will be my new Fantastic Four Doctor Doom video apparently
Marvel was ready to cast Robert Downey Jr as a version of Doctor Doom so we'll break it all
down because it's a really cool reveal from Kevin feige and John Favreau if you're brand new to the
channel be sure to subscribe to get all the videos because there are a lot of deleted scenes and
Easter eggs featuring The Doctor Doom character in the newer Marvel movies that I'll point out
too should we talk about that because I think that's probably one of the greatest decisions
in the history of of Hollywood Robert had come in for a general on it and I remember you had all met
with him already for like Dr Doom or something on another project I think on on on I think he had
come through on a pre like maybe Fantastic Four right everybody has good days and bad days and I
remember on later movies we'll talk about a 15th anniversary of those there were dark days and I
would say Robert we wouldn't be in this mess it wasn't for you meaning we wouldn't have a studio
if it wasn't for it's true or you tell me your memories of of where that idea came from because
there was some other people so everybody sort of knew who he was and I I remember sitting down with
the guy and I was like geez he just got it and he's got that spark in him and his eye and he's
ready and that's when we were in your office and and we were pointing to his headshot and saying we
got to try to figure this out the way they talk about it he was going up for Doctor Doom during
the original Fantastic Four movie and that would have been around 2003 2004 when they were casting
that role when he was in the middle of making Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with Shane black who they would
later hire to direct Iron Man 3. and originally there was an earlier version of that first Iron
Man movie that they tried to make with Tom Cruise is Iron Man Tony Stark which is why they were all
those Doctor Strange two Iron Man Tom Cruise rumors like oh he's coming back around like
they were paying off this Easter egg that didn't wind up working out when they originally thought
to make him a version of Iron Man in the MCU the other funny thing about that original Fantastic
Four movie is that mass Mickelson auditioned for Reed Richards but lost out to Joan gruffit think
about all the really dark characters that he's played since then like he'd be perfect Doctor
Doom let me know what you think about the idea of Robert Danny Jr playing a version of Doctor
Doom I feel like he could pull it off just because he's a fantastic actor but his version of Doctor
Doom would probably be a little more unhinged like he's got that crazy energy about him that's in the
Tony Stark character especially early on before he matures a little bit over the course of the
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have a Multiverse Saga happening right now maybe someday we'll see Multiverse versions of Doctor
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they're in the middle of casting the new versions of the Fantastic Four MCU actors right now we just
saw John Krasinski and Doctor Strange 2 as the 838 Universe version of the character so we've
already started to see Fantastic Four stuff in the background of the MCU reportedly we're
not supposed to see the MCU version of Dr Doom though for a couple more years at least like there
might be some references to him during this new Fantastic Four movie but he's not supposed to be a
big character during that reportedly they're going to use Galactus as a big one the scale is again in
that all is as it was perfectly balanced this whole thing should be it is known by many names
why people called it Galactus the Devourer of Worlds and it'll actually be terrax that will be
his Herald not Silver Surfer so also be a little bit longer before we actually see Silver Surfer
in the MCU there have been a couple deleted scenes in Easter eggs for Doctor Doom in the newer Marvel
movies though probably the biggest one was during Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness because the
director Sam Raimi the writer specifically talked about the Doctor Doom character when
they were writing parts of the movie the detail of the teleportation device he uses to get into
the scene is something we took from the comics that's Dr Tunes Dr Doom's uh time door what
they're talking about is actually right out of the comics the whole idea is that Kang basically finds
Dr Doom's Museum in an old doombot and takes his technology to create his first time travel
device taking it back in time to ancient Egypt to become the Rama Tut version of Kang which we saw
recently during Ant-Man the WASP Quantum Mania that's meant to be him at the beginning of his
timeline eventually the Fantastic Four found out what he was doing because it was happening in a
Fantastic Four comic book one of the earliest ones they go back stop him and he escapes to
the Future to become king the Conqueror like he changes his name to Kang then keeps coming back
to fight The Avengers through different parts of the timeline you're an Avenger have I killed you
before they all blow together after a while you're not the one with the hammer it's Thor so in the
838 Universe there is a version of Doctor Doom that's active in this universe they just didn't
cast an actor to play him in the movie one of the kings in the background here during Ant-Man the
wasp's quantumania post credit scene is also the Doctor Doom version of Kang so they're actually
two different versions of Dr Doom Kang one is Doctor Doom becoming a version of Kang and the
other is Kang pretending to be Doctor Doom this is just meant to be a version of Kang in an alternate
universe that's pretending to be doctored him which is why his armor looks like doctor Doom's
armor the version of Doctor Doom that becomes a version of Kang is called Doom the annihilating
Conqueror that's more like Dune taking the powers of Kang during black panther wakanda
forever which takes place in the MCU a big plot point is the other nations of the world searching
for vibranium at the beginning of the movie originally Lake Bell's character was supposed
to be a version of Lucia Von Barta who's one of Dr Doom's underlings from lot varia and she was going
to secretly be working for for him to find that underwater vibranium so Dr Doom is looking for
vibranium in the MCU also during the Moon Knight series when he winds up in that foreign country
in the background there is a castle that looks just like the castles of lot varia and the writers
also specifically said that was meant to be an Easter egg like yeah he's probably in a version of
lot very when he's waking up here you can let me know who you want to play that new MCU version of
Doctor Doom but there are also lots of Easter eggs for Robert Downey Jr showing up in future Marvel
movies as other characters or other versions of characters too deleted scenes from previous movies
and Easter eggs there was a deleted scene from Avengers Infinity War where he briefly becomes
sorcerer Supreme rescuing Dr Strange and Doctor Strange also becomes the iron Mage wearing his
Iron Man armor there are also newer rumors about Robert Downey Jr now coming back as a version of
that Superior Iron Man of the 838 universe that they didn't wind up casting an actor for in Doctor
Strange 2 trying to get revenge for Scarlet Witch killing the Illuminati maybe we'll see a version
of that during a Avengers 5 King Dynasty or like some small Easter egg because there are rumors
that part of Avengers 5 and Avengers 6 will borrow from the plot of Avengers forever which involves
a version of Kang using an evil Avengers team from Another Universe to fight the good Avengers
so during King Dynasty we could see some of these actors come back as The Avengers but as alternate
universe versions that are evil fighting the new Avengers then a lot of other cool details that
Kevin feige and John Favreau talk about with Robert Downey Jr just the history of the MCU
a big part of his process when they were making the first Iron Man movie Robert Downey Jr's was
rewriting the script every day with the director of the other creatives just to make whatever they
were shooting the next day even better and one of the big tipping points that they credit is
the original Comic-Con event in 2007 where they showed off the first trailer but also
before that Kevin feige actually did a Comic-Con panel where he specifically called out that they
were making the Avengers like oh we're making a Captain America movie we're doing a Thor movie
we're doing an Incredible Hulk movie and they're all gonna meet up and cross over in The Avengers
so even before the first Iron Man movie was released the MCU had already started to take
shape and the whole MCU of it all was one of the reasons why fans were even more hyped especially
long-term comic book fans like oh they're all connected all these things are going to cross
over and we're going to build up to something even bigger the whole Grand Design of it which was
Thanos The Infinity Gauntlet Avengers Infinity war and Avengers end game and now I'm actually kind of
glad that Robert Downey Jr wasn't that original Dr Doom in the original Fantastic Four movies
because even though they have their moments like they're a couple good moments in there generally
those original Fantastic Four movies aren't that great and even Kevin feige and John Favreau now
talk about Robert Downey Jr being cast as Iron Man being one of the greatest things to ever
happen in the history of Hollywood like one of the most fantastic pairings of an actor and a
character you almost can't imagine him playing any other characters the other funny thing too is when
they start talking about Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury they said that behind the scenes they think
of him as Gandalf or at the time they thought of him as Gandalf a character that just shows up out
of nowhere when you need him and helps you and then disappears he then described him as we were
going forward as Gandalf that he would appear when needed with answers and I always thought that was
very smart idea for for Fury suggested the all the way at the end of the credit area remember when we
showed it to him at Scott Walker it was it was just after the first few credits he's like he's
like the whole end yeah Ferris Bueller style yes there's also a funny connection to the Deadpool
movies too like we're making Deadpool 3 right now they literally just started filming it Kevin feige
refers to that original Iron Man post-credits scene as pulling a Ferris Bueller putting it
at the very end of the credits and during the first Deadpool movie they specifically parodied
that Ferris Bueller post credit scene but in a much more literal way in related Fantastic
Four news we will hear confirmations about who some of the major characters are really soon we
probably won't find out who's gonna play that new Doctor Doom for a couple more years though
speaking of Nick Fury click here for my brand new secret Invasion trailer video in Easter
eggs and click here for my brand new Captain America 4 First Look breakdown in Easter eggs
thank you so much for watching everyone stay safe and I'll see you guys in the next one!