>>> WELCOME BACK. >> A FILM TAKES PLACE BEFORE
RUTH’S RISE TO THE COURT WHEN
SHE’S A YOUNG LAWYER STRUGGLING
TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BECAUSE
SHE’S A YOUNG WOMAN.
>> TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT.
>> NOTHING.
>> NOTHING. I WANT NOTHING.
I WANT DO YOU GO TO WORK AND WOW
YOUR BOSSES AND CLIENTS AND BE
THE YOUNGEST PARTNER IN THE
HISTORY OF THE FIRM.
>> THAT’S NOT FAIR.
>> I WANT YOU TO WALK ME HOME SO
I CAN SIT IN A CORNER.
GO FORTH AND FIGHT FOR EQUALITY.
>> I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU’RE
ACTING LIKE THAT’S A BAD THING.
YOU’RE OUT THERE TRAINING THE
NEXT GENERATION OF LAWYERS TO
CHANGE THE WORLD.
>> BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT I WANTED
TO DO.
TO DO. >> FELICITY AND ARMIE, GOOD
MORNING.
MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.
>> THIS MUST HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
PRESSURE, BUT I KNOW YOU KIND OF
HAD HER BLESSING BECAUSE SHE
HELPED HER NEPHEW WRITE THE
SCREEN PLAY.
SCREEN PLAY. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> SHE SORT OF HAD HER HANDS IN
IT.
IT. TALKED ABOUT IT.
>> HE’S GOT A GREAT STORY HE
TELLS WHERE HE APPROACHED HIS
AUNT RUTH AND SAID LOOK, I’D
REALLY LOVE TO WRITE A SCRIPT
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. SHE PAUSED AND SAID WELL, IF
THAT’S REALLY HOW YOU WANT TO
SPEND YOUR TIME.
AND THEN HE SORT OF GAVE HER
EVERY DRAFT.
EVERY DRAFT. SHE VETTED IT AND APPROVED IT.
>> THERE MUST BE A LOT OF
PRESSURE TO PLAY ANYBODY, BUT TO
PLAY SOMEONE WHO IS ALIVE AND TO
PLAY SOMEONE OF HER STATURE MUST
HAVE WEIGHED HEAVY ON YOU.
HOW DID YOU TRY TO GET IT RIGHT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IT’S NERVE RACKING TAKING ON
SOMEONE WHO IS AN ICON AND
BELOVED.
BELOVED. I’M A REAL FAN GIRL OF HERS
MYSELF.
MYSELF. IT WAS JUST -- WE WERE REALLY
FORTUNATE TO GO AND VISIT HER
AND SPEND TIME WITH HER, AND
JUST GET TO KNOW HER ON A
PERSONAL LEVEL.
PERSONAL LEVEL. >> WHAT WAS THAT LIKE, YOU WALK
IN THE ROOM AND THERE’S RUTH
BADER GINSBURG?
BADER GINSBURG? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. IT WAS AMAZING.
WHEN WE FIRST WENT IN, WE WERE
NERVOUSLY WAITING INSIDE HER
OFFICE.
OFFICE. WHEN WE WENT IN, SHE COULDN’T
TAKE HER EYES OFF ARMIE HAMMER.
SO SHE IS A HUMAN.
>> WHAT WAS SHE LIKE IN THE END?
>> SHE’S VERY, VERY OPEN.
SHE WAS VERY OBVIOUSLY AS YOU
SAID, SHE’D BEEN PART OF EVERY
PROCESS OF THE FILM AND THE
GENESIS.
GENESIS. SHE WAS WELCOMING.
>> I THINK I READ SHE LOVED
MEETING YOU BUT THEN WAS WORRIED
ABOUT YOU NAILING THE BROOKLYN
ACCENT.
ACCENT. BUT YOU DID.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. YEAH.
YEAH. IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL JUST
LISTENING TO ALL THESE
RECORDINGS OF HER IN COURT AND
GOING THROUGH THOSE.
I BECAME OBSESSED WITH RUTH
BADER GINSBURG VOWEL SOUNDS AND
LISTENING TO THE GREAT BROOKLYN
SOUND.
SOUND. >> WERE YOU SURPRISED TO LEARN
SO MUCH ABOUT HER?
THE FACT THAT SHE FINISHED FIRST
IN HER CLASS IN LAW SCHOOL BUT
COULDN’T GET A JOB.
ALL THE THINGS THAT SEEM UNHEARD
OF TODAY?
OF TODAY? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, SHE JUST HAD OBSTACLES
IN HER WAY THE ENTIRE TIME.
SHE WAS CONSTANTLY PUSHING
UPSTREAM.
UPSTREAM. THE SYSTEM WASN’T DESIGNED FOR
HER TO BE THERE, AND SHE BROKE
IT AND CHANGED IT.
>> ONE OF THE COOL THINGS ABOUT
THIS PARTICULAR MOVIE, IT’S A
REAL MOMENT IN TIME.
I THINK IT’S A LOVE STORY WITH
HER AND HER HUSBAND.
IT WAS UNUSUAL FOR THE TIME.
HE REALLY SUPPORTED HER, AND YOU
SEE THAT.
SEE THAT. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. HE WAS A REALLY SORT OF
PROGRESSIVE MAN.
PROGRESSIVE MAN. I MEAN, EVEN BY TODAY’S
STANDARDS, AND MORE SO BY THE
STANDARDS OF THE 50s AND 60s AND
70s WHEN HUSBANDS DIDN’T COOK
AND CLEAN AND TAKE CARE OF THE
KIDS.
KIDS. HE RECOGNIZED THE POTENTIAL HIS
WIFE HAD.
WIFE HAD. HE WAS GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO
FACILITATE.
FACILITATE. >> SPEAKING OF HUSBANDS AND
WIVES, YOU WERE AT A COOL
WEDDING NOT TOO LONG AGO.
>> I COULDN’T GO.
MY WIFE AND OUR DAUGHTER WENT.
>> SHE WAS THE FLOWER GIRL?
>> SHE WAS ONE OF THE FLOWER
GIRLS IN THE WEDDING.
WE WERE THERE FOR PRIYANKA AND
NICK’S FIRST DATE.
>> YOU KNEW IN THE BEGINNING?
>> WE WERE SITTING THERE AND
KIND OF WATCHED THEM TALKING.
WE WERE LIKE HEY, SEE WHAT’S
GOING ON OVER THERE?
AND NOW THEY’RE MARRIED.
>> THAT’S WHAT MARRIED PEOPLE
DO.
DO. THEY LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE LIKE
THAT SEEMS INTERESTING.
THAT’S CUTE.
THAT’S CUTE. FELICITY JONES AND ARMIE HAMMER,
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE MOVIE IS CALLED "THE BASIS