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Hello and welcome to the Grand Line Review,
your source for everything One Piece
and more specifically welcome to another One Piece Battle,
where we take two characters from this vast, vast series
and pit them together in a hypothetical match up
and do our best to determine a winner
as objectively as possible
by examining and awarding points for the following criteria:
Power, speed, durability, haki, individual fighting styles,
devil fruits, intelligence and other miscellaneous notes.
And today we have another battle of ex-villains
of the series beginning with one of
the world government's finest agents, Rob Lucci,
a former member of the super secretive CP9 cell
and current member of the somehow less secretive
yet more influential CP0 cell,
which operates under the direct control
of the World Government.
Stepping into this battle, Rob Lucci
comes equipped with a scary carnivorous
zoan type devil fruit as well as
a full set of rokushiki techniques,
including one super special secret one,
the combination of which makes Lucci
a perfect super human assassin.
And going up against him we have a true classic villain
of the series in Sir Crodocile,
a former warlord of the sea,
who despite being defeated fairly early on in
the grand scheme of things,
is certainly not to be underestimated
because he has earned the respect
and notoriety of many profound figures
and also he comes into this with
a very deadly logia type devil fruit at his disposal.
But with that out of the way, let us commence the battle!
Kicking this match off is the ever standard power category
and Dino Crocodile is a bit more of a physical beast
than I think he gets credit for,
being comfortable with lifting
and disposing of the corpses of an entire pirate crew,
as well as tanking many hits from Lufi,
but let's be real, this particular area
is not quite his forte.
And really by all available evidence,
Lucci completely dominates in this field
due to his assassin training as a child,
and even through his half a decade experience
working as a shipwright for Galley-La,
in an incredibly physically demanding profession,
thus training his body each and everyday.
And this is before we consider the incredible power boost
given to him by his devil fruit,
which amps up his strength
to the point where he can just casually toss
various strawhat members around
like they were nothing and all of this is pre-timeskip,
although we don't have a great measure
of his post time skip abilities in general to be fair.
In any case though, Crocodile simply
has not demonstrated physical prowess
greater than that of simply lifting a human body
so the opening act of raw physical power
does need to be awarded to Mr. Rob Lucci.
Next up we're going straight into devil fruits
because this will go on to inform most
other categories and what we have here
is a very rare match up of a zoan and logia fruit.
Now typically I would say the advantage here
always has to be given
to the logia user because of their innate power
of intangibility, as well as more general utility
in regards to being able to conjure,
manipulate and even become their element.
And the sheer dominance of this match up
has been shown in the series when Crocodile
swiftly disposed of Trucker
however the opposite has also been displayed
where by Pekoms, a zoan user,
was able to one shot Caribou, the user of a swamp logia.
So it is exceptionally dependent
on how the wielders make use of their abilities,
however on a very basic level,
a logia will always provide more potential than a zoan,
that is not a mythical type.
So Lucci's Neko Neko no Mi Model Leopard
is fantastic in regards to enhancing
his pure physicality in every aspect,
but the Suna Suna no Mi just does so much more than that,
allowing Crocodile to attack Lucci with deadly blade,
shockwaves, a variety of masking techniques like sandstorms,
and access to incredible defensive maneuvers
inaccessible by non logia users and even the ability to fly.
So if we're talking about devil fruits alone,
the power to become an entire desert
does tend to trump of that of turning
into a big ol' kitty cat.
So Crocodile does win this pure category,
but that is not to say that Lucci
cannot make up for that elsewhere.
And one of those areas would be durability.
So Crocodile, to me, very much fits the definition
of a glass canon which is very appropriate actually
because sand would be the main ingredient
in glass production.
I mean I guess his durability and endurance
are not to be underestimated
because he did a tank a wide array of attacks
from a very early incarnation of Luffy,
but at the same time,
each and every one of those attacks
did hit him incredibly hard.
Meanwhile, Rob Lucci was able to
comfortably fight Luffy, equipped with gears,
into something of a stalemate
whereby Luffy only barely prevailed.
In his base form though,
Luffy's attack were effectively powerless against Lucci,
and a large part of that is due to
the rokushiki technique known as tekkai
or iron body and access to this absurd defence
pretty much ends the conversation right here.
But I want to stress that even without tekkai,
Crocodile would most certainly still lose in this category.
At any given time, he is only really a handful
of good hits away from being taken out of a fight,
as shown during Marineford
where he very briefly combatted Diamond Jozu
and one brilliant punk later,
Crocodile was on the verge of giving up
and was very lucky actually,
being saved by Doflamingo who took control
of the white big commander.
So look I'm sorry Sir Crocodile,
but this is one where you stand
almost certainly no chance.
And that's only going to get much worse here
because we have another complete
wipe category coming up, being haki.
Now rather interestingly neither of our contestants here
have displayed haki during
their tenure as primary antagonists.
And in retrospect this is very strange
because of their status in the world,
especially Lucci because haki is very common knowledge
amongst high level World Government officials,
but also especially Crocodile,
because he was one of the seven warlords of the sea
and that is a position that he never should have reached
without taking command of any type of haki.
These are, of course,
the result of a long running story
where haki may or may not actually intended
to be involved in things in general,
but to decide this category
we do need to examine what has happened since,
and that strongly favors Rob Lucci,
as after the time skip,
he has now been dubbed as a confirmed user
of both armament and observation haki,
and one example of this can be seen
in film gold where he briefly faces off against Sabo,
however that is definitely not canon.
But what is canon is the information
that comes from the One Piece Vivre Card.
So this is very important because without armament haki,
Lucci would have had a really rough time
against Crocodile's logia powers
and would have to discover
his natural weakness to deal with him.
Which knowing Lucci, probably would have,
but it would've taken time
unfortunately for Crocodile, on the other hand,
he has had no such haki confirmation.
His Vivre Card failed to reveal his haki status,
which is not to say that he doesn't posses it
because Crocodile's Vivre card
quite notably features his pre time skip incarnation,
whilst Lucci's focuses on his post time skip form,
but with everything we have available to us right now,
all we can do is pointlessly speculate
over whether or not Crocodile does know haki.
And in my opinion, he most certainly probably does,
but that's not quite good enough for this battle
and so, Lucci takes this section, no problem whatsoever.
Time for some intelligence now
and this is a very cool category
because we are dealing with
a couple of prime schemers and tacticians here.
Rob Lucci is obviously an intellectual beast
because it's his job to do so,
being a master of intel and having to apply
his skills in a very precise manner as an assassin,
which even transfers into situations
like going into a full on brawl
like it did against Luffy.
And so as a result of his tactical prowess,
Lucci is able to effectively min/max
his physical output and not end up
wasting a ton of unnecessary energy,
very, very important.
However he is up against Crocodile,
which is I would say, unfortunate,
because in this case Lucci happens to be dealing
with one of the greatest masterminds
ever conjured in One Piece.
I would equate Crocodile to a form of
grand master chess player
when it comes to implementing schemes.
Because this is a man who has back ups
for the backs ups of his back ups
and the only reason why he was defeated
on Alabasta was due to the absurd level
of fate presented within Luffy.
Any other rookie in Luffy's position
would have succumbed to Crocodile's
near perfect planning on the island
and this does very much translate
into combat sense as well
because Crocodile has a supreme awareness
of his abilities and just as with Lucci,
he understands how to maximize damage
and minimize energy spent causing it,
which could be very, very easy
given that his logia powers can do most of
the strenuous work for him.
And Crocodile has, on multiple occasions,
shown that he can make incredibly quick
and accurate deductions based on
extremely minimal information,
making him a truly deadly show of precise force in combat.
And that may not be so great for
a battle royal setting like Marineford,
but in a one on one scenario,
Crocodile's analytical, tactical and cunning prowess
is in my opinion superior to that of Lucci,
which is insane because Lucci
is not to be underestimated here either but there you go.
Back to something more physical,
and we get to examine speed now,
and simply this is another Lucci win.
In theory Crocodile does possess fantastic speed,
mostly due to being able to turn into sand
and moving swiftly like that,
however Crocodile has been empirically demonstrated
to be within the agility range of a pre-gear,
pre-time skip haki Luffy.
Whereas Lucci has another funky rokushiki technique
known as soru, which will outpace Crocodile
any day of the week.
And this is probably another one of those situations
where modern day Crocodile
would probably receive a retrospective speed boost
because the evidence we have of him
did not accurately represent
what his level should have been in the world,
but at the same time, that is sadly all we've got to go on.
So we're gonna have to go with that.
But the thing is this doesn't even take into account
Lucci's full beast form,
which being a leopard is pretty damn fast,
not it's not a chetah, but it's still incredibly swift
and able to very, very easily outmatch
the pace of any human
and probably vogu user.
And who knows, maybe Lucci's leopard form
can even use soru,
which makes this even more of a complete
display of dominance here.
So yeah, speed just is not
one of those Crocodile specialties.
But let's see if his individual fighting style is,
and here is where we do immediately need to cut
to Lucci and focus a lot more on his rokushiki mastery
which we have spoken about a fair bit of already
but being able to perform these six techniques
basically turn him into a super human.
Collectively they grant him super speed,
super defense, incredible evasiveness
as well as potent and powerful attacks.
The collection of these techniques make Lucci
capable of fighting at great speeds,
against insurmountable power,
and effectively on any battleground.
And Crocodile is in a surprisingly similar situation
thanks to his logia properties.
The only features he is really truly missing
is an amped up defence
and the pure sense of speed,
however his evasiveness in particular
is superior to that of Lucci
due to the properties of the Suna Suna no Mi
and the power granted to Crocodile
more than rivals the rankyaku
and shigan arsenal available to Lucci.
Now Lucci does posses the secret rokougan technique,
which results in devastating damage,
but it can only be used in a very, very specific scenario,
and to be honest, it's effectiveness
against Crocodile would be questionable
because it does not appear to be an attack
that can be infused with haki,
meaning that Crocodile would come out of it unfazed.
The same goes for rankyaku,
although shigan could most certainly be
performed coated with haki.
But it's bit hard to pick a winner
based on style alone because both Crocodile and Lucci
have very precise and advanced tactical battle preferences,
with an incredible slew of options available
to fit almost any scenario possible.
Not only that but they are both very capable
of either defending or evading
attacks that the other could muster,
so I will need to declare a tie in this category here.
Some other miscellaneous things to consider,
starting with Mr. Crocodile,
because as much as I praised his intelligence
and his mastery of devil fruit usage,
the one problematic factor is his arrogance,
which has unfortunately resulted from
his admittedly brilliant intellect.
Crocodiles depth of layered planning,
can make him incredibly reckless
during the early stages of said plans,
such as on the two occasions
he had to kill Monkey D. Luffy,
but he rather just foolishly assumed
that the Straw Hat captain would die
and by the time Luffy had broken through
the Crocodile's final stage,
through sheer fate or luck,
whatever it doesn't really matter,
Crocodile was finally overcome.
And all of that was preventable
but he chose to make arrogant assumptions.
Which is a big, big problem in battle.
Lucci on the other hand has far less
of an issue in that regard,
however due to his carnivorous zoan fruit,
he is subject to an animalistic blood lust.
This means that Lucci can often lose his cool in battle,
and adopt the mentality of a beast,
which in certain situations, yes that can be fantastic.
That bloodlust helped him considerably against Luffy
for example because Luffy is a brawler
and those sorts of combact instincts
would be well suited against him.
However engaging this mode against Crocodile,
opens Lucci up to exploitation
because Crocodile's intellect
may begin to deduce patterns
in Lucci's predicable animalistic behavior,
and allow him to take control of that situation.
But really neither of those factors
are enough to cancel out the ultimate result
which is a victory for the Cipher Pol agent Rob Lucci
sitting at a massive five points
having won in the categories of power,
durability, speed, haki
and tie-ing for individual fighting style.
So this is very much a show
of physical domination from Lucci,
who was able to pick up many of those categories
almost by default without contest.
Meanwhile Crocodile has more cerebral showing
winning devil fruit, intelligence and tie-ing
for fighting style, giving him a total
of a sad three points.
So yes, this really is a situation
of raw power winning the day.
If Crocodile was a confirmed haki user,
or was able to amp himself up
to any decent level of physicality,
then I would honestly say that this conflict
would probably go in his favor.
But he isn't, and that's what we're dealing with.
So in this case, I need to offer my congratulations
to Mr Rob Lucci for a marvelous showing here today.
Enjoy your victory my good leopard man.
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