- (chuckling) Oh, back pain, Bob.
Bob, however, there's one thing
and we're gonna talk about there's,
the biggest problem that causing back pain
can be overlooked oftentimes.
And we're gonna show you the easiest solution that
we have run into to help decrease
or actually eliminate back pain like that.
We'll be back in 9.3 seconds.
And Bob, what have you to say?
- I concur.
- Absolutely. See, we're good.
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All right.
So Bob, you and I, we've discussed this
and we have consistently, over the last three to four
decades of our clinical experience, always look at,
address or monitor posture in the seated position.
- Right.
- When someone has back pain,
it is something that's critical.
And that whole term, the buzz term, you know
has been out in the last few years,
"sitting is the new smoking." And-
- And one reason is because how it affects your back.
- Absolutely. So we're gonna show you
if you change the posture of your back while you're sitting,
particularly if you sit in the car for a long time,
you sit at the computer and you sit anywhere
for length of time it can really
make a difference on your back.
And as a matter of fact, that's all I've done
with some patients is change their back posture
while they're sitting and they say, "Oh, that feels good."
So we adjust it and we do that in the next-
- Send them on their way.
- the next time they come back,
"I really don't think I need to come anymore."
(Bob laughs) So very good.
Let's go and investigate this more thoroughly.
(air whooshes)
If the patient says, "I have back pain when I sit too long,"
I'm definitely looking at it.
Or if they say, "after I sit for a while and I stand up,
it's very painful until I start walking,
then it gets better."
I'm definitely looking at posture of the back in a chair.
Sometimes people slouch like this, some backs
tolerate that well, some don't.
Some backs need to be pushed the other direction, but-
- Right.
- the way you find out is do you do some
experimenting with it and you find out
the position of comfort for your back and learn that.
And like my back position is
completely different than Bob's.
- [Bob] Right.
- And we'll show you that as well.
(air whooshes)
Okay, so. Back support,
there's all kinds of 'em sold online.
We have one, two, three, - What an array.
- We got five of 'em right here.
- Right. - So
which one do you use?
We got these memory foam ones.
We've got these other foam, they got straps,
some do, some don't.
So this is what we recommend, and this is what we have done
over the years, is simply take a towel or a rolled towel.
This is a sock full of rice.
Things you have at home.
You don't have to spend any money.
- Right.
- And it's gonna tell you the answer.
Now personally, if I take a lumbar, a rolled up sock
like this, put it here where we oftentimes
say if you've got sciatica that may be
a really comfortable position.
For me, it's no good.
- Doesn't do it, right.
- It doesn't feel real good when I sit there
and after I sit for a while, it feels worse.
So I know that is not for me.
Some people, if it does, however
if that towel roll feels good
but it feels like it needs to be bigger, you know,
you simply get a bigger towel.
- Yeah. If you're a person with a large ample butt,
- Yes.
- You might need (chuckling) a back support that is bigger.
- Right. Or for example, your car seat is kind of wore out
- Right. - or just built
with a big hole in the back there and it slouches you
in there terribly.
You may need a bigger one.
- Exactly.
- I've had people that, that's all I've done. I say,
"Did you ever adjust your lumbar support in your car?"
And they said, "I didn't know I had one."
- Lumbar what? (both laugh)
- Yeah. So, you know, I may have
electric one or a manual one.
And we just said, and they say, "Oh my goodness
I wish I knew that two years ago."
- (laughs) Right?
- So the whole point is, is use a trial.
You don't have to spend money on it
and find out what works for you.
What size.
- Right. - Diameter.
Now, in my case, I feel better
if I just have a broad support.
- Right.
- And I've got stenosis along with my spondylolisthesis.
So if you take a towel like this, that's not like a roll
and you put it back there, or you could use a throw pillow.
- All right. Or even just a regular pillow.
- Yep. Whatever works. - A long pillow.
- You have to experiment with it.
- Right.
- Oh, now this feels good immediately,
I'm getting pretty happy. - Yep. Happy camper.
All right. - All right.
So once you do that, you can simply just use your towel,
- Your sock full of rice.
- Yeah. You can use that as long as you want. However-
- Uncooked rice.
- Uncooked rice- Yeah. Don't cook it.
Use your homemade one as long as you want.
But once you just figure out what shape support you need,
- Right.
It's not a bad idea to buy one.
- Right.
- But you don't have to.
It's up to you.
This is my personal experience.
I tried all these shapes, 'cause actually when I was younger
these kind of worked, (chuckling) my back changed as I aged.
And then I found this memory foam pillow.
It changed the way I drove.
I drive 30 minutes or so, 40 minutes to work and back.
I'd get out of the car, my back would hurt.
And that went on for a couple years.
I tried this and it got 50% better.
I was grateful.
But then I found out that this one, which is very similar
just not as thick and it goes up higher,
this one really does it.
- Do they still sell it?
- I think so.
I've got three of 'em already.
- Oh. - I got one in my lawnmower,
one in my car and then a spare one.
- There we go.
- But this one-
- Kebado.
- Yeah. Yeah. What is that?
K-E-B-A-D-O.
I'm not really sure, but I know it's memory foam
and it really works.
- And it spreads out to forces.
- Yeah. And for me, this one changed my life.
When I drive my wife's car
if we go a three hour drive and I forget this
I will turn around if I'm a half hour way.
- Oh, I hear you.
- Actually, I remember it within 20 minutes or 10 minutes.
But- - Good for you.
- I will turn around to get this.
So this can be such a wonderful, wonderful thing
to take care of your back,
allow you to sit and walk and everything.
Bob, what say you?
- I go more with this one.
- Yeah. And that's, Bob's body needs that.
- Like put over my sacrum.
- Right. Yeah.
And the position, you put these in.
- Right.
- So some people you know who have a big hole
in the seat or they, they've got a larger bottom.
- Right.
- This one may be the one, larger.
- Or sciatica.
- Sciatica. Yeah.
- Right. - Yeah.
Unfortunately we don't have the answer
for which one is for you.
- Right. Work at it.
- Yeah. But we've got the recipe.
- You got your assignment.
- Yeah, there you go.
Good luck, be careful and watch the back pain go away.
(both laugh)
I'm cereal, Bob.
- So long!
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