-So, that's our argument. Everyone gets covered.
No one goes broke.
-His bill that you've cosponsored
would essentially eliminate private insurance.
Is that something you could support?
-He's got a runway for that.
I think we get everybody together,
and that's what it is we'll decide.
-Is that the plan or path that you would pursue as president?
-So, yes.
I'm with Bernie on Medicare for All.
Costs will go up for billionaires
and go up for corporations.
For middle-class families, total costs will go down.
-You said their costs would go down,
but can you address directly
whether taxes like mine would go up?
-Out-of-pocket costs for middle-class families
are going to go down.
Your question is your total cost.
-Okay, but there's no answer to the question
whether your tax is going up.
-There is an answer to the question about your cost.
-How about tax?
-Because it's costs that matter to people.
It's not that I have a plan that says we're gonna do this part
and then we're gonna do this part
and then we're gonna do this part.
No, instead, my plan is we're gonna get to a table like this.
We're gonna make sure everybody gets represented.
We're gonna understand the urgency of the moment.
For hard-working families across this country,
costs are gonna go down.
-But will their taxes go up?
-But here's the thing -- -No, but here's the thing.
I've listened to these answers a few times before.
-Costs are gonna go down.
-But that's not the same as taxes not going up.
-What matters to families is cost.
It is about what kinds of cost
middle-class families are going to face.
I said, "I will not sign a bill into law
that does not reduce costs for middle-class families."
-But what about the tax part of it?
That's what I'm asking. I mean, if there's
an equation here -- -You just heard it.
Over the next few weeks, to put out a plan that talks about,
specifically, the cost of Medicare for All
and specifically how we pay for it.
-Shouldn't you have decided how you're gonna pay for the plan
before you released your healthcare plan?
-I've been working on the details for a long time.
-Why should caucus-goers be confident
that it's possible to pay for Medicare for
All at all if the leading democratic candidate
still needs a couple more weeks
to tell them how it's gonna get paid for?
-Well, why don't you ask me that when the plan is out?