LITTLE WHILE. SIGNUP.AXIOS
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SIGNUP.AXIOS.COM. THAT DOES IT FOR ME ON THIS
THURSDAY MORNING.
THURSDAY MORNING. "MORNING JOE" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
>>> VERY, VERY SOON, THE CAN IS
GOING TO RUN OUT OF ROAD.
WE’VE GOT TO OPEN THIS ECONOMY.
IF WE DON’T, IT’S GOING TO
COLLAPSE.
COLLAPSE. AND IF THE U.S. ECONOMY
COLLAPSES, THE WORLD COLLAPSES.
TRYING TO BURN DOWN THE VILLAGE
TO SAVE IT IS FOOLISH.
YES, WE SHUT DOWN.
BUT THE SHUTDOWN DID NOT STOP
THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
THE SHUTDOWN SLOWED THE SPREAD
OF THE VIRUS AT ENORMOUS COST,
BUT IT STILL SPREAD.
WHEN WE END THE SHUTDOWN, THE
VIRUS IS GOING TO SPREAD FASTER.
THAT’S JUST A FACT.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
THAT.
THAT. >> REPUBLICAN SENATOR JOHN
KENNEDY OF HARD-HIT LOUISIANA,
THAT STATES SHOULD REOPEN,
DESPITE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WOULD
ACCELERATE THE SPREAD OF THIS
DEADLY VIRUS.
DEADLY VIRUS. >> WELL, IT’S JUST ONE OF THE
DUMBEST THINGS I’VE ACTUALLY
HEAR HIM SAY.
HE’S SAID SO MANY STUPID THINGS
OVER THE PAST YEAR, IT’S HARD TO
COUNT.
COUNT. HE’S FROM A STATE THAT, AGAIN,
EVERYBODY WENT TO MARDI GRAS.
WHEN OUT TO MARDI GRAS AND
SPREAD THE CORONAVIRUS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. IT’S JUST LIKE FLORIDA HAVING
SPRING BREAK.
SPRING BREAK. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THAT
SPRING BREAK SPREAD HIT A LOT OF
PEOPLE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI
RIVER.
RIVER. YOU KNOW, IT’S SOMETHING I DON’T
UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND. YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR
KENNEDY, AND A LOT OF OTHER
TRUMP SUPPORTERS, AND A LOT OF
AMERICANS, RIGHTLY, WERE SO
OFFENDED AND SHOCKED AND UPSET,
LIKE I WAS, WHEN 3,000 AMERICANS
DIED AT THE HANDS OF ISLAMIC
TERRORISM ON 9/11.
>> WE’RE AT 30,000.
>> WE’RE AT TEN TIMES THAT.
BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNIST CHINESE
GOVERNMENT LYING, AND THEIR
INCOMPETENCE.
INCOMPETENCE. THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT LYING AND
HIS INCOMPETENCE.
HIS INCOMPETENCE. >> CONTINUED INCOMPETENCE.
>> AND THE INCOMPETENCE
CONTINUES.
CONTINUES. THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION’S
INCOMPETENCE.
INCOMPETENCE. YES, I WILL SAY THAT.
DONALD TRUMP MAY BE THE WRONG
PERSON TO CRITICIZE THE W.H.O.,
BUT OTHERS IN CONGRESS SHOULD.
ATTACH STRINGS TO THE FUNDING.
WE SHOULDN’T CUT THE FUNDING FOR
THE W.H.O.
THE W.H.O. YOU KNOW, WILLIE, I DON’T
EVEN -- THIS IS A GUY -- I THINK
HE WENT TO OXFORD.
A BIG JOHN KERRY SUPPORTER.
A MAN ABOUT TOWN, OBVIOUSLY.
VERY, VERY ERUDITE, OR HOWEVER
THEY SAY IT IN OXFORD.
HE SAYS IN HIS MADE-UP ACCENT
THAT, YEAH, WE’RE CLOSED DOWN.
PEOPLE STILL DIED.
HE KNOWS THAT WITHOUT THE SOCIAL
DISTANCING, HE KNOWS WITHOUT THE
LOCKDOWNS, HE KNOWS THIS -- HE
MAY BE PLAYING STUPID ON TV.
HE MAY BE ACTING LIKE HE IS DUMB
AS DISH WATER ON TV -- BUT HE
KNOWS WITHOUT THE SOCIAL
DISTANCING, INSTEAD OF 30,000
PEOPLE DEAD, IT’D PROBABLY BE
300,000 PEOPLE DEAD RIGHT NOW.
HE ALSO HAS TO KNOW THAT IF WE
REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT TOO
QUICKLY, WITHOUT THE TESTING, IF
WE REOPEN THE ECONOMY WITHOUT
WIDESPREAD TESTING, A LOT MORE
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.
HERE IT COMES, JOHN KENNEDY, I
LIKE HOW YOU TALK LIKE THAT,
MR. OXFORD.
MR. OXFORD. YOU KNOW, HE ACTUALLY TALKS LIKE
SHERLOCK HOLMES WHEN HE IS
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN HIS
HOUSE.
HOUSE. HE HAD A TOP HAT AND SMOKES A
PIPE.
PIPE. BUT HE KNOWS, WILLIE, THAT IT’S
THE BUSINESSES, THE SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS THAT YOU AND I
KNOW, AND MIKA KNOWS SO WELL,
THAT OWN FAMILY BUSINESSES AND
OWN SMALL RESTAURANTS AND SMALL
BARS AND SMALL SHOPS, THEY’RE
THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
HURT THE MOST IF WE REOPEN THE
BUSINESSES, THEN THEY HAVE TO
SHUT DOWN AGAIN BECAUSE DONALD
TRUMP STILL REFUSES TO ACT IN A
STRONG MANNER ON TESTING.
IT’S JUST STUPID AND
SHORT-SIGHTED.
SHORT-SIGHTED. AND HE KNOWS IT.
>> SENATOR KENNEDY KNOWS
EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
THE REASON WE KNOW HE KNOWS IT
IS THAT’S EFFECTIVELY WHAT HE
SAID IN THE INTERVIEW.
WE HAVE TO OPEN UP THE ECONOMY.
A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
GET SICK, BUT THAT’S A TRADE-OFF
I’M WILLING TO MAKE.
THAT’S NOT EXACTLY A FRINGE VIEW
AMONG MANY REPUBLICANS.
THE PRESIDENT IS EFFECT ILY LYIV
AMONG MANY REPUBLICANS.
THE PRESIDENT IS EFFECT ILY LYIV
SAYING THAT.
SAYING THAT. HE WANTS TO OPEN THE ECONOMY.
A CONGRESSPERSON SAID IT IS THE
LESSER OF TWO EVILS.
A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE MAY DIE,
BUT YOUNGER PEOPLE CAN GET THE
BUSINESSES OPEN.
BUSINESSES OPEN. WE NEED TO OPEN THE ECONOMY
AGAIN.
AGAIN. WHAT SENATOR KENNEDY SAID OPENED
EYES, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE
HAVEN’T HEARD ALL THE WAY FROM
THE WHITE HOUSE, AND WE’LL HEAR
IT AGAIN TODAY AS THE PRESIDENT
ANNOUNCES HE IS GOING TO TELL
SOME GOVERNORS OF SOME STATES
THAT HE HAS DEEMED, BASED ON
SOME DATA HE SAYS HE SEES, HE’S
GOING TO TELL THEM THEY CAN OPEN
FOR BUSINESS.
FOR BUSINESS. AS SENATOR KENNEDY SAID, A LOT
OF PEOPLE WILL GET SICK BECAUSE
OF IT.
OF IT. >> THE THING IS, WILLIE, THERE
WAS SOMEBODY WHO CLAIMS TO BE A,
QUOTE, NEWSMAN, WHO IS ANYTHING
BUT, WHO TOOK GREAT OFFENSE AT
ME SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, SAYING
THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CLAIMS
TO BE THE PARTY OF LIFE, IF
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNBORN.
BUT IF YOU’RE THE BORN, MY GOD,
WATCH OUT.
WATCH OUT. IF YOU’RE ESPECIALLY IN THE
GREATEST GENERATION, IF YOU’RE A
WORLD WAR II VETERAN IN YOUR
90s, IF YOU’RE A VIETNAM VETERAN
IN YOUR 60s.
>> IF YOU’RE IN DONALD TRUMP OR
JOHN KENNEDY’S GENERATION.
>> IF YOU ARE A KOREAN WAR
VETERAN IN YOUR 70s OR 80s,
WELL, THE HELL WITH YOU.
BECAUSE YOU’RE RIGHT, THERE IS A
GROWING LIST OF REPUBLICAN
SENATORS, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN
AND WOMEN, WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS, IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY, THAT ARE SAYING, "YEAH,
SURE, SENIOR CITIZENS ARE GOING
TO DIE, BUT WHAT THE HELL?
WE REALLY GOT TO GET WALL STREET
MOVING AGAIN.
MOVING AGAIN. WE’VE REALLY GOT TO GET BOEING
CORPORATION MOVING AGAIN.
WE’VE REALLY GOT TO GET THESE
FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES MOVING
AGAIN."
AGAIN." LET’S BRING IN JONATHAN LEMIRE
AND KATTY.
AND KATTY. KATTY, THEY’RE NOT EVEN BEING
SUBTLE ABOUT IT.
LIKE THEY’RE NOT EVEN BEING
SUBTLE.
SUBTLE. THEY’RE BASICALLY SAYING, YES,
OLDER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.
THE GREATEST GENERATION, A LOT
OF PEOPLE IN THE GREATEST
GENERATION ARE GOING TO DIE.
YOU KNOW, THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO
TEAR UP ON, YOU KNOW, JUNE THE
6th, EVERY JUNE THE 6th, ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED AT NORMANDY.
NOW, BECAUSE CORPORATE PROFITS
FOR BOEING AND OTHER FORTUNE 500
COMPANIES ARE GOING DOWN, AND
THE STOCK MARKET IS STRUGGLING,
THEY’RE SAYING, "YEAH, THEY’RE
GOING TO DIE.
WE KNOW OLDER PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO DIE.
TO DIE. THE GREATEST GENERATION, A LOT
OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE
THERE.
THERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE
THAT ARE KOREAN WAR VETS AND
VIETNAM VETS.
VIETNAM VETS. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE HAVE TO GET WALL STREET
PURRING AGAIN."
PURRING AGAIN." IT’S REALLY AN ASTONISHING
ARGUMENT FROM THE, QUOTE, PARTY
OF LIFE.
OF LIFE. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I SUSPECT WHAT THEY’RE REALLY
SAYING IS THAT YOUR OLDER PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO DIE, BUT I’LL DO
ALL I CAN TO PROTECT MY PARENTS
AND MY GRANDPARENTS, AND I’LL
LEAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH YOU.
I WOULD RECOMMEND, FOR ANYONE
WHO HAS A FEW MINUTES THIS
MORNING, TO GO AND WATCH ANGELA
MERKEL’S PRESS CONFERENCE ON HOW
SHE HANDLES THE CORONAVIRUS IN
HER PRESS BRIEFINGS THAT SHE
GAVE YESTERDAY.
GAVE YESTERDAY. SHE LAYS OUT VERY CLEARLY WHY WE
CANNOT AFFORD TO DO EXACTLY WHAT
THEY ARE SUGGESTING, WHICH IS
JUST LET THE OLDER PEOPLE DIE.
IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE PEOPLE
WHO MIGHT DIE.
IT IS ABOUT THE PRESSURE ON THE
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THAT WILL
COME IF WE OPEN UP THE ECONOMY
NOW.
NOW. A SOCIETY AND DEMOCRACY WITHOUT
A ROBUST HEALTH CARE SYSTEM,
UNDER THE PRESSURE IT’S BEEN
UNDER THE LAST MONTH, IS NOT A
VIABLE SOCIETY.
VIABLE SOCIETY. SHE LAYS IT OUT VERY CLEARLY.
WE OPEN UP NOW, AND ONE PERSON
INFECTS TWO PEOPLE.
OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS SHOT
BY THE TIME WE GET TO SEPTEMBER.
THEY INFECT 1.5 PEOPLE, IT IS
SHOT BY THE TIME WE GET TO
NOVEMBER.
NOVEMBER. IT’S AN INCREDIBLY COMPELLING
ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. THAT THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE
HUMANITY, THAT WE AS A SOCIETY
DO NOT CHOOSE TO LET OUR OLD
PEOPLE DIE WHEN WE COULD SAVE
THEM IN ORDER TO RESCUE THE
STOCK MARKET AND MILLIONAIRES’
INVESTMENTS.
INVESTMENTS. BUT IT IS ALSO ABOUT SAVING A
VITAL PART OF OUR SOCIETY, WHICH
IS THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
IT JUST CAN’T WITHSTAND US
REOPENING RIGHT NOW.
>> IT CAN’T.
THERE IS GOING TO BE, MIKA, A
SECOND WAVE THAT’S COMING IN THE
FALL THAT WE REALLY NEED TO
PREPARE FOR RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, IT IS INTERESTING.
KATTY TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY’RE
SAYING, "OH, IT HAPPENS TO OLDER
PEOPLE, BUT OTHER OLDER PEOPLE.
WE’LL TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN."
MIKA, WE’RE SEEING A LOT OF
SENIOR CITIZENS IN THE UNITED
STATES SENATE SAYING, HELL WITH
IT, LET OLD PEOPLE DIE, REOPEN
THE ECONOMY.
THE ECONOMY. A LOT OF RADIO SHOWS AND CABLE
NEWS SHOWS ARE SAYING THE SAME
THING.
THING. A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE IN THE
WHITE HOUSE ARE SAYING IT.
WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IS, YEAH,
WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IS, "YOU
KNOW, WE’RE RICH ENOUGH TO TAKE
CARE OF OURSELVES IN THE WHITE
HOUSE."
HOUSE." >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> "WE’RE RICH ENOUGH ON TALK
RADIO TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.
WE’RE RICH ENOUGH IN THE UNITED
STATES SENATE, ORABLE TO TAKE CA
OF OURSELVES, SO YOU’RE NOT
GOING SEE US GOING OUT EATING AT
RESTAURANTS.
RESTAURANTS. YOU’RE NOT GOING TO SEE US GOING
OUT WITH THE ECONOMY STARTING
BACK UP.
BACK UP. BUT WE’RE GOING TO PUSH THE
PRESIDENT AND OTHER PEOPLE AND
GOVERNORS TO PUT POLITICAL
PRESSURE ON TO GET OTHER PEOPLE
OUT THERE.
OUT THERE. YES, THEY’RE GOING TO DIE, BUT
WHAT CAN YOU DO?
THEY’RE NOT IN THE 1%."
THAT’S THEIR ATTITUDE, MIKA.
THERE’S NO OTHER WAY TO PUT IT.
AGAIN, I DON’T EVEN WANT TO
MENTION THEIR NAMES BECAUSE
THEY’RE SO DISGUSTING.
BUT PEOPLE THAT USED TO SERVE IN
OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS, PEOPLE
WHO USED TO HAVE GOOD
REPUTATIONS, PEOPLE WHO WERE ON
TALK RADIO, PEOPLE WHO WERE ON
CABLE NEWS, LIKE, THEY’RE
TELLING OTHER OLD PEOPLE, "YEAH,
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIE.
GET OVER IT.
WE GOT TO GET WALL STREET
STARTED AGAIN."
STARTED AGAIN." BUT YOU’RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM
HAVE FAMILY REUNIONS IN A BARN
IN CENTRAL LOUISIANA.
LIKE, INVITING 1,000 STRAIGHT
PEOPLE TO ROAM.
THEY KNOW THEY DON’T WANT THEIR
FAMILY MEMBERS TO DIE.
THEY’RE GOING TO STAY CLOISTERED
BEHIND THE GATES OF THEIR HOMES.
THEY’RE GOING TO STAY CLOISTERED
IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
THEY’RE GOING TO STAY CLOISTERED
WHERE THEY STAY CLOISTERED AND
SAY, AGAIN, THEIR ARGUMENT IS,
MAKE NO MISTAKE OF IT -- AND IT
IS ADONALD