RICHARD: Right.
WINFREY: Yes, Kevin?
KEVIN: Every dad has a dream, and a lot of ti...
WINFREY: Every dad has a dream.
KEVIN: Every dad has a dream.
And a lot of times, you can't pursue the dream as energetically
as you would want to, because you have to...
WINFREY: Did you--would you all agree with that? Every dad has a dream?
RICHARD: Sure do.
WINFREY: I thought that was very interesting. I didn't know dads had a dream.
KEVIN: Yeah. And...
WINFREY: I thought dads was just working all the time. Every dad has a dream.
KEVIN: Well--but you have to balance pursuit of the dream
with stability of the family. So some of my single friends can just go full bore
pursue their dreams, but we have to make sure that every lily pad
we step on is a firm one, you know, can...
WINFREY: And what would you say your dream is?
KEVIN: My dream is to allow people of color the economic march
that the civil rights era started.
We have rights, but we need economic rights now. And I think that...
WINFREY: And what is your dream for your family?
KEVIN: My dream for my family is to have a stable existence every day,
happy, fulfilled, secure, and I can do that, and I do do that.
You know, it's--I have made--with 11 years of work with my wife,
we have made concessions, so I work a three-day workweek now
so that I can be home on Mondays and Fridays and the weekends
because my Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday are like 12-hour days.
WINFREY: OK.
KEVIN: So at the end of those days, I don't really see my family,
but I've shortened it so that the time that I can be with them is really with them.
WINFREY: OK.