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- Hey, good morning everybody
and welcome to the vlog!
I am here with the evil morph god himself Kevin Edner.
What in the heck this is an Albino Water Monitor
but it's white, what's its deal?
- Yep so it's like,
basically it's a patternless t-negative albino Salabancis.
- [Brian] Wow!
- So if she wasn't so dirty, that's the thing
about all your albinos, they get really dirty
and stuff like that.
- Right because they're rolling in,
they're obviously digging and stuff like that.
The darker animals you don't see,
they have the same amount of dirt on them
you just don't see them.
We're going to do an entire monitor show here
because Kevin really re-wrote the book on monitor keeping.
To be totally honest with you.
Over the last couple of decades.
And also has produced some of the most insane
monitor mutations.
So we're just going to have a monitor day.
What do you say we get started.
Oh my gosh dude, what in the world,
what's this dude?
- We've got some urban dinosaurs right here.
This is an adult Asian Water Monitor right here.
This guy's name is Thor.
He's one of our big, breeder albino males.
And look at how awesome this guy is.
- Oh my gosh, it's so crazy!
Now this has to be one of the original albinos,
how long has this been--
- [Man] That was actually one of the offspring.
- Yeah, it's one of the offspring.
So this is an F2 albino from you.
- [Man] Yeah.
- Wow I tell you what, I need some Albino Water Monitors.
You guys know I love Water Monitors.
Here's a little baby girl right here.
How you doin' sweetheart?
And this is a heterozygous albino, wow.
Geesh, that is so cool!
I mean these are truly urban dinosaurs.
- As close as you can get to having
a Kimono Dragon for a pet.
How cool is that?
- Oh my gosh.
Tell you what, I love these guys.
And Kevin has some incredible ones.
Of course that's where Niphery came from,
Elvis came from here.
So we're gonna definitely be getting some
new monitors this next year as well
to add to the repterums expansion.
Kevin, I mean like I've mentioned
you kind of re-wrote the book
on monitors in a way.
You know, I mean, 10, 12, whatever.
However long ago.
You were doing all this habituation stuff.
And I know a lot of the monitor guys
thought what you were doing was crazy.
And now, everybody does what you do.
And I'm not even sure that some people realize
you were the one that started it.
- So, all socialization of these monitors
is basically, I was working in the mind of these animals.
And we would go through the modes.
Sleeping, thinking, fear, and eating modes.
And basically I view reptiles, in those modes
and I need to make sure that I'm working within those modes.
And we naturally want to work within the thinking mode.
So if you go and push yourself on an animal
when it's in a defensive, in a fear mode
you're not going to get the reaction that you want.
So I really want to see the reaction of these animals
to me, and to handling that it would normally have
when it it's very comfortable.
So first I have to do is establish trust.
Trust is critical and I've taken this
and I've put it on snakes.
But I've also put it on lizards, and toecade geckos,
and Water Monitor lizards, and dwarf Cayman.
And all sorts of different things.
And it's very applicable and I can do this with almost
any animal that I'm able to play with.
And what we do is we realize,
once they're calm you get to see that
they're more intelligent than we have ever thought.
- You know, it's pretty amazing
to sit here and just play with these monitors.
Knowing that, Toothless, Elvis came from here, you know.
And to get an opportunity to mess with them
is pretty darn awesome.
What do we have here man?
- Okay so this looks like a crazy
potentialy co-dominant or incomplete dominant chain.
I'm guessing.
And I just got to get him to slow down.
But this was one of these wild-caught animals
that was super hard for me to acclimate.
Just didn't want to eat, and we had to basically
let it get its yah-yahs out.
So the trick when I'm handling something like this
is to just kind of do passive resistance.
- [Brian] Right so you're--
- To it.
Yeah so you notice that I'm not getting
any biting or anything like that.
As long as I don't push it too far.
This animal has really good claws.
- [Brian] Look at how gorgeous it is though.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah I've never seen anything like it.
- So it's a total hypomelanostic.
- That head is ridiculous.
The whole body is really.
- So we call this Banana.
- Oh that's Banana, oh my gosh.
- [Kevin] It's bananas.
- It's bananas, it is bananas.
That thing is ridiculous.
So is this a boy or girl?
- This is a boy.
- So you have to get a little bit you just gotta keep on--
- Yep and I should be taking it kind of slow
but this is like literally, a couple years to get
it just to even like acclimation and stuff like that.
And get it so it's rolling.
Didn't wanna bite you all the time.
Didn't want it to go kind of crazy.
And now, it's finally understanding things.
And I haven't, exceedingly worked on this animal
as far as trying to calm it down.
Because you know, it wasn't eating.
So the most important thing is
to get the thing established.
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- Guys I am super excited right now.
We were just about, you know,
getting done with a bunch of things.
And guess what, we heard that we have monitor eggs.
So tell me what you got here, dude.
- So right here, we have a T-positive
to T-positive albino.
- [Brian] Oh my gosh!
- This is actually the male.
I have the female over here, well I can actually
take her out for you.
This is the one, yeah this is the girl that laid.
She's Mama.
- [Brian] So this is T positive to T positive?
- Yes.
- [Brian] Oh my gosh, dude that is so sick.
And these are the eggs right here?
What she got, she got two, four, six eggs!
Holy moly man.
- Actually, I think there's seven.
- [Brian] There's seven in there?
- Yeah seven, there you go.
That one was hiding right there.
- Oh my gosh, seven eggs.
Oh my gosh guys that is insane.
What a great honor, I mean,
I wasn't expecting to see monitor eggs while I'm here.
So I'm beyond stoked to see them.
I mean, oh my gosh!
That's so cool!
Congratulations dude.
- Good job Mama.
- He didn't do any of that, he didn't lay those eggs.
- [Brian] He told me he did everything.
- No he didn't do crap.
- I took a squat and I dropped them myself.
(laughs)
- [Brian] Good job Mama, you did so good honey.
Good job, way to go girl.
You too daddy!
- Oh yeah, today is gold.
Today's going to be a super day, you know why?
Cause I got (beep) albino Water Monitor eggs!
(laughs)
- Hello!
- [Brian] What's your job here?
- So I actually take care of all the monitors that we have.
- [Brian] All the monitors?
- Yeah, so we have three rooms filled with monitors.
We have room six, room eight, and room 12.
That are completely filled.
Room six has basically all the baby Water Monitors.
And we have a few turtles, so we have
Bubba the Snapping Turtle, we have a couple of
common snappers, and we have the bigger Cayman.
Which you actually held earlier.
This is more like our sub-adult and slash breeder groups.
So on this side we have basically all the breeder adults.
Over here we have some, mostly breeder adults
but some of those that we're trying to get to breeding size.
And then room 12 is where we have all the bigger
stuff, that's ready--
- Kevin just said that I could actually
pull the clutch of Water Monitor eggs.
I've never pulled Monitor eggs of any type.
So this is a treat, let's just go ahead and do this.
We're just going to pull them out,
rotate them as much as possible.
(laughs)
- [Employee] Bounce them around.
- Bounce them around.
There's one.
Oh my gosh these are so cool!
It's like little dinosaur eggs.
- [Kevin] You know how long they take to hatch, Brian?
- I'm going to have a guess of 90 days.
- [Kevin] Six months.
- Six months.
Okay I was wrong, 180 days.
(laughs)
I meant 180 days.
- [Kevin] So those are nice and fertile.
I know you can tell, they're plump.
- [Brian] Yeah plump, they're white.
- So if I basically candle them.
I would see almost nothing, I might see a little blood spot
but, because they're so early in the development.
It takes so long, you don't get this vasculated egg
where you would see in a python egg
or a colubrid egg or whatever.
So sometimes, you look at that.
And we have seven, so sometimes
you want to look around a little bit.
- [Brian] Yeah, just to see if there's any.
- 'Cause they will sometimes play little games
so we might have that as being all, which is fine.
Because I'd rather have seven perfect eggs
than 12 junky eggs.
- And you said you now float this in water?
- Yeah, another bin and you have to be very careful.
I incubate these around 86 degrees.
- Yeah, because listen, when you start extending
the incubation time to 180 days
you make mistakes that can kind of,
just really become a problem.
Something that in 60 days might not
make as much of an issue.
So that's awesome, I mean.
- Very delicate embryo.
- That is crazy.
These are the cutest little things.
I mean of course little black dragons.
And how old are these?
- These guys are only about a week old.
- A week old. - Brand new babies,
you can see still really curious, real nice and social.
Just amazing little babies.
These are fifth generation captive bred.
- Fifth generation, just think about that.
I mean, and again, every generation
if you're breading tame animals
of course their offspring are going to inherit
a little bit of their disposition right?
And then as soon as they hatch what is he doing?
Habituating them, touching them, desensitizing them.
Giving them positive reinforcement.
And look at, I mean, a monitor lizard
you think it's just run away, like scared,
and it's just hanging out.
- Just checkin' things out.
Yeah, just taking it all in.
They're super, super smart.
So when we're working with these guys,
you'll see that they'll look around.
They'll check out what's going on.
But they're just flicking their tongues.
We make sure we have positive experiences with them.
And from the time they hatch out,
they're usually pretty good.
And then the more you work with them.
The better they become.
- Yeah and we got Toothless when it was not
much larger than this.
It's crazy to think that
Toothless one day, was not that long ago was this big.
Now he's getting so big.
- And Toothless is their older brother.
- Their older brother!
Think about that, oh my gosh!
And now I want to take one
of these cute little monkeys home.
They're so cute, oh my gosh!
And then this is a recessive mutation.
So the heterozygous look more like normals.
- They do, but you can actually pick them out
between them and a normal Water Monitor.
So it's almost like an incomplete dominant.
- Maybe an incomplete dominant.
- Where they have a dark wash down their back,
and they, you can pick them out.
If you got 'em next to some het albinos
or some normal Water Monitors,
you can pick out the het black.
- And then these guys here are actually
like, kind of the hets or the visual hets.
And definitely look a little bit different than a normal,
for sure, you can definitely see
how there's that influence there.
I agree with you, probably an incomplete dominant.
These are litter mates huh?
- Yeah, yeah, these are also younger siblings to your--
- Oh my gosh, to Toothless.
How fricken' cool is that?
And then isn't it that there's an island
that these guys are--
- Komani, yeah the Komani island yeah, the Komani Islands.
The Komani Island Water Monitors are a little bit
smaller than your average Asian Water Monitor.
Because the Sumatran Water Monitors
can get up over eight feet long.
But ours are from the Komani locale
and our adults are usually about four to six feet long.
So they're a little bit smaller
than the real giant Water Monitors.
- Right, gotcha, excellent.
And then that's the whole thing,
that some people have bread these into other localities
it kind of changed it a little bit.
- Yes, it did and they've also found Black Dragons
in several different localities.
So they found them in Sumatran locality,
they found them in Milesian locality
and the Komani Island has a high concentration of them.
So you find it more commonly on the Kumasi Island.
But they've also found Black Dragons
from Sumatra and Milaysia.
- You forgot to do one job when you
pulled out the Monitor eggs.
- [Brian] What did I do?
I didn't mark it.
- You didn't mark it, yes.
(yelling)
- You forgot to label it!
I don't understand.
- [Kevin] We just pulled some monitor eggs.
- [Man] Baby, six months.
- [Brian] All right, thank you man, I appreciate it.
- You put eleven, it's twelve.
- [Brian] Oh shoot, oh come on!
- Can't take this dude anywhere!
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- There's a baby, ultra, ultra baby Croc Monitor.
- [Brian] Gosh, this thing is so adorable.
- [Kevin] And I would like to take out a number of these
but the problem is, you really want to work
on building positive threads.
So if I'm just start showboating and want to bring out
a couple of them I can give a very bad experience.
So I'm just working on establishing trust.
So they're first inclination is to bite us.
- Yeah.
- So we're getting them past the biting,
and then you do supportive therapy.
So right here, this is a good positive experience.
And you want to build these little threads.
So even if I had an episode lasting only ten seconds.
Where I'm able to go into the animal's cage
get the animal to touch me, have some kind of interaction
with me and then get out of the cage without freaking out.
That's all positive.
If I had this animal and the animal just runs off and falls
or something like that.
- That would be
a terrible experience. - Or something really bad.
Yeah. - And it's going to remember
it 'cause they're so smart.
I wish I had that memory
- And they're so, like, you know
rubbing them and all that.
So this animal is now watching tortoises on the ground
trying to figure out what that is.
So it knows everything and wants to predate it.
- And of course Croc Monitors
are crazy when it comes to intelligence.
I mean even much more so than anything.
It's insane how smart they are.
- And you can raise these friendly
and they just have the goods.
They have very strong teeth,
they have real good serrations.
And they are very reactive.
They are even more reactive than a Water Monitor.
But, they're definitely the intelligence is right up there
with Water Monitors.
What's nice about Water Monitors versus Croc Monitors
is Water Monitors are a little less
apt to be so reactive and they'll pull back and think.
These guys react first and that's where
we can get these lacerating bites and whatever.
So these are getting impossible to get.
They're very difficult to breed,
this is actually a captive hatched animal.
One thing we're noticing is we're having
a fair bit of aggression with female and the male.
- Okay.
- And they don't lay eggs like my other Monitors do.
So we're trying to dial in, just getting them to nest
Is a significant thing so we've had two
nestings recently, there's still infertile eggs,
we've had breeding, we're seeing visual breeding.
So we're kind of getting this thing dialed in.
Hopefully at some point as I start changing my enclosures
I can definitely dial it in.
So it's something we will be breeding.
But to say that these are easy to breed,
would just be untrue.
- Right yeah, they're incredible.
I mean what an amazing animal.
- Total prehensile tail, unlike a lot of other Monitors.
So this is a tree dragon.
- [Brian] Yes, a Tree Dragon.
- [Kevin] This is the longest Monitor in the world.
- Because of that tail, that tail can sometimes
be up to six foot.
It's pretty insane.
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