intel has a new 8 core cpu the i9 11
900k but how does it compare against
amd's 8 core ryzen 7 5800x i've tested
both processors in games and
applications to show you the differences
and help you decide which is worth it
both are 8 core 16 thread parts the
ryzen chip has double the cache however
the intel chip is able to reach higher
clock speeds
amd's 5800x is also cheaper though but
you can refer to current prices with the
links below in the description the
11700k
is closer in price to the 5800x but i
don't have one and want to see if paying
extra for the 11900k gets you any extra
over ryzen both processors were tested
in the same system however i've had to
change the motherboard between intel and
amd
otherwise all other components are the
same as listed here neither of these
cpus come with a cooler in the box so
i've done all testing with my fractal
s36aio with noctua nt
h2 thermal paste for comparable results
i've tested both cpus at stock without
power limits
no mce or precision boost overdrive and
with the following manual or call
overclocks applied
these are by no means finely tuned over
clocks results will of course vary based
on silicon lottery i'll start out by
comparing both processors and
applications followed by things like
temperatures and power draw afterwards
then we'll look at gaming and cost per
frame value after that to get a better
rounded idea of which is better
starting out with cinebench r23 i've got
the stock results down the bottom
and overclocked results above there's
really not much difference at all here
whether we're looking at single core or
multi-core scores but let's break this
down
at stock the 5800x was one percent ahead
of the 11900k and multi-core meanwhile
the 11900k was almost two percent faster
than the 5800x in single core so yeah
quite negligible with both overclocked
though the i9 is able to pull off a
slight win in multi-core
scoring two percent higher than the
ryzen 7 5800 x
i've also tested the older cinebench r20
as a lot of people still use it so you
can compare my results and similar deal
here too the single core scores lower
with overclocks in place because these
are all core
overclocks which prevent higher single
core boosting which is possible at stock
i've tested blender with the bmw and
classroom benchmarks
this is a heavily threaded test the
intel cpu was faster in the shorter bmw
test while the ryzen cpu was a little
faster in the longer classroom test
either way again it's not a big
difference between them the v-ray
benchmark is another core heavy
rendering workload the results here
mirror what we saw earlier in cinebench
the 5800x was slightly ahead with both
its stock however with both overclocked
the i9 was able to push a little higher
and take the lead the corona benchmark
also uses the processor to render out a
scene and again a similar deal here the
5800x was a couple of seconds faster at
stock but then the overclock only sped
up the 5800x by a second while the i9
lowered its completion time by 5 seconds
with the overclock
again putting it in the lead this is the
third time i've used the linux kernel
compilation test
and like i've seen in other recent
processor comparisons i've made
intel seems to have an edge in this
multi-core test the 11900k was
completing the task almost
five percent faster at stock and over
nine percent faster with both
overclocked handbrake was used to
convert one of my 4k laptop review
videos to 1080p
i feel like i'm repeating myself but
again like most other applications
tested the 5800x was a little faster at
stock but then with both overclocked the
i9 is able to take the lead
adobe premiere was tested with the puget
system's benchmark tool and this tests
for things like video exporting live
playback and more
same deal here too 5800x are headed
stock but then i9 pulls off the win when
both are overclocked adobe photoshop was
also tested with the puget systems
benchmark tool now the same pattern was
happening here too however the
overclocked score with the 5800x
actually lowered a little compared to
stock this test seems to do better with
single threaded performance from what
i've seen so i'm thinking this is the
same deal as what i covered earlier when
discussing the cinebench single core
scores
granted based on that you'd expect the
i9 to lower two and it didn't i've used
7-zip to test compression and
decompression speeds
this is an area where amd has
traditionally beat intel and that's not
changing here these are some of the
biggest gains in favor of the 5800x out
of all applications tested in this
comparison aes
encryption and decryption speed didn't
really change with the overclocks
however this test saw the biggest gains
with intel out of all applications
tested coming in almost 14
ahead of amd microsoft excel on the
other hand was the biggest win for the
ryzen
processor this test seems to favor
higher cash which is probably why the
5800x has such a higher lead it's got
twice as much l3 cash compared to the i9
like other tests the i9 was back to
scoring better in single core with
geekbench though at stock the 5800x was
ahead in the multi-core score
same deal as most previous tesla 11900k
taking the win for multi-core with the
overclocks
here's how intel's new 11th gen 11900k
compares against amd's ryzen 7 5800x
processor with both running at stock
speeds
the results could vary a fair bit
depending on the specific workload
compression
decompression and microsoft excel seem
to heavily favor amd while intel has a
good lead in the aes tests
otherwise most applications didn't see
too much difference one way or the other
though ryzen was ahead in most cases
here's how the results change with both
manually overclocked on all cores
most of the applications that were only
slightly better with amd are now
slightly better with intel
though we're still only talking about
single-digit performance differences
nothing too major for the most part the
reason for this change becomes evident
when looking at the clock speeds
during the blender classroom benchmark a
heavy multi-threaded test we can see
with both processors at stock the 11900k
was 180 megahertz higher than the 5800x
with both overclocked though it's now
400 megahertz higher than the 5800x
and this additional overclocking
headroom is why intel is able to take
the lead in many overclocked tests
here's how total system power draw from
the wall looks with the same blender
classroom benchmark running
and it's pretty rough for intel the
system with the 11900k is drawing 39
more power all while completing this
task slower than the 5800x with both
overclocked the 11900k is now at least
completing the task three percent faster
but with 67
more power i've got to ask at what cost
now you might have noticed that the
total system power draw with the
overclocked 5800x
actually lowered by four watts compared
to running it at stock and this was
simply due to the voltage
that my asrock x570 taichi motherboard
was applying by default with the latest
bios
basically my manual overclock was giving
it less power while letting it perform
better
more power generally equals more heat
however at stock the 5800x was actually
running warmer
of course assuming that the sensors
reporting to hardware info are somewhat
comparable between the two the 5800x
actually gets cooler with my overclock
for the same reason it's using less
power just discussed
let's get into the gaming tests next
i've tested eight games at 1080p 1440p
and 4k resolutions on both processors
cyberpunk 2077 was tested in little
china with a stray kid life path
i've got 1080p down the bottom 1440p in
the middle and 4k
up top generally there's going to be a
much smaller difference at higher
resolutions as the cpu matters less
there
i'm just covering them to help
illustrate this the biggest difference
was at 1080p
where the 11900k was reaching three
percent higher average fps over the
5800x
so hardly a big gain however there was a
larger 12
boost seen in the one percent low red
dead redemption 2 was tested with the
game's benchmark tool there's basically
no difference at 1080p
just a 1fps lead to the 5800x much never
stuff realistically even when averaging
multiple test runs the i9 was otherwise
ahead at 1440p
and 4k but again just small differences
likely not differences you'll notice in
practice in any case
assassin's creed valhalla was also
tested with the game's benchmark again
only extremely minor differences for
either cpu for both one percent lows and
average fps so let's move along
watchdog's legion was also tested with
the game's benchmark and the gaps are a
little bigger here but again not really
something you'd notice
when it comes down to it though just a
couple of fps gain best case for the
11900k
control was tested running through the
same part of the game on both systems
multiple times
this game is quite gpu heavy even at
1080p so seeing basically no difference
to average fps was kind of expected and
i think it illustrates what to expect in
games where this is the case
csgo is an esports title where
differences in frame rate might actually
matter more which is why i decided to
test this older game
the 5800x had the largest gain out of
all eight titles tested but given both a
smashing beyond 600 fps at 1080p
it's hard to say how beneficial that
really is shadow of the tomb raider was
tested with the game's benchmark
as a last-gen game this modern hardware
is able to get us 100 fps at 4k
even with the highest setting preset
otherwise not much difference the i9 is
a couple of fps ahead of 1440p
while the ryzen 7 was 5 fps ahead at
1080p battlefield 5 was tested in
campaign mode
once more no major differences to
average frame rate at either resolution
however the i9 had bigger gains in terms
of one percent lower particularly at
1080p where it was 12 percent ahead when
comparing all eight games tested at
1080p
the 11900k was less than a percent
slower than the 5800x
of course csgo essentially acts as an
outlier here compared to the rest of the
results
so should you wish to not count that
then the i9 is instead less than a
percent faster
either way tiny differences in either
direction however you slice it stepping
up to 1440p
and things hardly change only a couple
of games were ahead on ryzen now however
given the best case intel gain is two
percent it's not exactly an impressive
lead
especially when factoring in price
difference at 4k there's even less
difference when taking the averages from
all games
which is expected as the processor
typically matters less at higher
resolutions
as most of the load is on the gpu when
we factor in price
at the moment the 11900k is sold on
newegg for 614 usd
for some reason the kf version without
integrated graphics is significantly
cheaper at 540
but you can check links in the
description for up-to-date pricing for
either cpu the 5800x is currently sold
for 449
on newegg right now and yes it's
actually in stock at least at the time
of recording anyway
this hasn't been the case until recently
though so hopefully amd have the supply
issues sorted out
anyway right now today the 5800x is
offering better value for gaming it's
significantly cheaper while offering
similar performance in most cases
honestly it's not too surprising to find
that the 1100k
offers poor value in gaming i recently
compared it to intel's own i9 10900k
from last generation in this video over
here and basically the summary is that
that older model is generally better
than the 11900k
in most cases compared to the 5800x well
i think ryzen is the easy choice right
now
in productivity workloads the difference
between these two processors were small
generally the 5800x was ahead of stock
but then when overclocked the 11900k
took the lead in most tests and that's
simply because the i9 has better
overclocking headroom but again that
sort of thing will vary based on silicon
lottery at the end of the day i just
don't think the gains from the i9 even
when overclocked are that big relative
to the higher cost and additional power
that it needs
both platforms are essentially dead at
least in terms of new cpus launching on
them
so buying today i think am4 would give
you more room to upgrade as you could go
to a 16 core 5950x someday when it's
cheaper meanwhile on the intel side well
the 11900k is already the top of the
11th gen stock though you could of
course
also go for the 10 core 10900k from last
generation i was originally planning on
comparing the i9 11 900k with the ryzen
9 5900x with 12 cpu cores as the price
difference between those two was much
closer but now i don't even know what
the point is given i consider the 5800x
better than the i9
and this is already cheaper i suppose it
could still be interesting to see how
much more performance is on offer from
the 5900x
let me know if that's something you want
to see down in the comments otherwise
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