Hey, guys. Thanks for tuning in to another video on Forgotten weapons dot com. I'm Ian McCollum, and this is the MAS 38
that a couple of you have spotted on my gun wall. This has finally cleared NFA transfer, and I actually have it.
And we are taking it out to the range today because I have been getting a bunch of comments from people asking
"When are we going to see it? When are we gonna see it?" And to be honest, I am equally excited. Now... Uh...
The hassle with this- The hurdle is that 7.65x20mm French Long ammunition is extremely difficult to find.
There are... Well, there's basically one commercial supplier,
which is Buffalo Arms and so I have some buffalo arms ammo. They- When the gun cleared they actually were out of stock.
They recently got some in and I bought some of it and
This is converted from .32 S&W brass, so I'm hoping it works, but to be totally honest
I am not entirely confident. So we're gonna give it a try and hopefully it'll right
It's an open bolt submachine gun, so (the) bolt's (and) back ready to go
*Click!*
That is less spectacular than I was... Hoping for
Yeah- So I have... The round in the chamber
Without a primer dimple on it. Let's try dropping the... The bolt a second time.
*Click!*
All right. So there's something wrong here, because...
The cartridge is... It's not firing. It's also not extracting
I'm going to guess that there's something at fault with the brass. Uh...
*Gun abuse.*
Uh... Can you hand me a cleaning rod?
*Karl sings a beautiful song.*
Thank you. We figured this might be important. So...
In order to clear this thing- It's clearly not a hang fire because there's no dimple on the primer. I'm gonna hold the bolt open
Uh... And then...
Going to release the cleaning rod and just drop it down so that should it discharge when the it... The rod hits it, it won't hit me.
All right.
We're gonna try a few more rounds before we come back
All right, well I tried some more in a just kept getting the same issue, so there is something wrong with the ammo
I've got here now to be fair to Buffalo arms. They don't really do make this stuff for the submachine gun
This is also the cartridge. That's used in the 1935 a and 1935 s French pistols
I should have actually brought one of those out to test it, but I didn't all reports
I've seen or that it runs fine in the pistols, so
What's going on here is this cartridge isn't really all that close to anything else out on the market
It's virtually identical to the 30 Pedersen cartridge, but that's not very helpful for finding ammo
the two cartridges that can be used to convert to 765 French long are
30 carbine and 32 Smith & Wesson long now if you're using 30 carbine
obviously you have to cut it down you then also have to swage the entire case head down by a substantial amount 30 carbines a
Little bit too big around and then once you swage it you're left with an internal case volume
That is too small so you then have to go and ream out the inside of the case
That's a serious pain
if you use 32 Smith & Wesson long
Which is what Buffalo Arms has done, you have to
turn off the rim because that's originally a rimmed revolver cartridge you then have to cut an
extractor groove, and I hear different stories about whether
The cartridge is strong enough
at the extractor groove because
That wasn't a particularly strong cartridge to begin with and now you've cut a big groove in the middle of the case head
some people say that those will blow case heads off in submachine guns, but they work in pistols I
Think there's something that maybe it needs more of a crimp. Maybe the bullet shape is not quite right for
Proper functioning a sub gun. I don't know exactly what it is
Unfortunately, that's pretty much. The only good supply. There are a couple of other small vendors on the net
I don't want to mention specific names that I've had some
Because I wouldn't necessarily recommend them
What I'm going to attempt to do is get someone like Starline to start making the brass for this
I'm really hoping that in part because of you guys out there in the audience who are also interested in shooting
French pistols, and maybe even a couple of you who have these submachine guns
I'm hoping we can make a case to someone like Starline that it is worth
producing the ammunition, and if I'm able to do that and they'll be able to do a bunch of shooting with this Oh
Surplus ammo and people are going to bring it up the vast majority of French surplus
765 long is duds and hang fires and not reliable. I have a little bit of it
It's also steel-cased corrosive primed it's kind of gnarly ammo
They stopped using this pretty shortly after World War two so all the surplus is quite old
Anyway, hopefully in the future. I will be able to source a reliable and commercially
Priced source of ammunition so that not just hi
But all of you guys can also do some shooting with these sorry. We didn't get to actually do any today
I was hoping I can't say I'm entirely surprised that it didn't work though
So that is just kind of how it goes with some of the older more obscure cartridge firing, firearms out there
Thanks very much for watching check in tomorrow, and we'll have a gun that actually works