last night nvidia did their live stream and Jensen delivered the news
that a lot of us tech enthusiasts have been waiting for and that is
rtx 3000. now they've announced three different
products and that is the rtx 3090 the rtx 3080
and the rtx 3070 but what we have seen already is that another youtube channel
called digital foundry has uploaded gameplay footage with
percentage differences between an rtx 3080 and an rtx 2080. so
in today's video i'm going to be doing some educated
guesswork with the numbers that we already see
in that we're going to grab those percentage numbers convert them back to
fps and then guess the performance of the
rtx 3070 and also the 3090 and even compare that
to the rtx 2080 ti to see the value propositions of these
new cards in a number that's easy to digest let's
get on with it straight away looking at the numbers in
the cuda core account from nvidia's own website
we can see that this is essentially cuda core is nvidia's name for shader
and amd call it stream processor what they're doing here is
something that you can't really compare directly with the rtx 2000 series or
turing versus the new generation ampere because
in one of the illustrations and one of the videos that they showed
they had the shader like literally splitting into two
kind of doing some matrix agent smith duplication kind of thing here and so
what they're doing with the cuda core performance
and also the cuda core count is actually a lot different
than the previous generation so basically if you got out your good old
calculator and you said oh wow the 3070 has 5888 cuda cores
and the 2080i only has 4 352 and then you said okay it's going to be
35 faster you would actually be making a wrong guess
at least in my opinion and reason being is because what we can do however
is look at the fps that's already out there on that 3080
versus that 2080 comparison that we saw over digital foundries
basically it wasn't an fps comparison but again we'll throw it back in let's
say the 2080 is a 100 fps baseline and what
they showed was the 3080 was performing 80 faster so we can
convert those numbers now into fps so we've got 180 fps versus
100 fps on the 2080 and so from here what we can
do is actually then grab those cuda cores on the same
generation and start to derive some numbers this is a fair practice
for guesstimating numbers you just can't compare them from different generations
because there's changes in the architecture so
what we're going to see here i feel is that a 2080 ti is roughly 25
percent faster than the 2080 and so we put that in 125 fps and then
we see that the rtx 3090 is going to be about 20 percent faster
than the 3080 so we put that in around 216 fps
now the 3070 actually has a lot lower cuda core count
than the 3080 as well as the 3090 those being 8704
and 10 496 cuda cores respectively there's also 28 billion transistors
on both the higher core count gpus versus the 17 billion on the 30 70 and
the 18.6 billion on the 2080 ti and so what this means is
the rtx 3080 is actually going to be a cut down version of the rtx 3090
rather than the 3070 being cut down version of the 3080 that's actually
going to be a different die and size altogether and then basically
taking the rtx 3070 cuda core count comparing it to the 3080
we're going to have around 68 of that shading performance available
on the 3070. however one big difference here is that they're using gddr6
memory on both the 38 and 3090 so that's going to have more throughput
as well as a bigger memory bus compared to the 37 whereas the rtx 37 is gonna
have gdr6 memory the same as the 2080 ti albeit it is
going to be clocked at 16 gigabits per second versus 14
gigabits per second on that 2080 ti so significantly higher
memory speeds and drastically higher cuda core counts
is going to make the 30 80 and also the 30 90 in a different league
compared to that of the 30 70 and subsequently the 2080 ti which if i had
to guesstimate on the 30 70 now you can maybe expect around 120 fps
versus 125 on the 2080 ti so although nvidia is saying that you're
going to get pretty much the same performance
as the 2080 ti i believe it'll be a little bit lower on release
and then of course with driver optimizations over time you will see the
3070 beat out the 2080 ti and so with those guesstimated numbers
out there we can look at the value proposition of the cars themselves where
the rtx 3070 is going to come in with a 500
price point releasing in october and i'm going to
guess that that is early october because they're going to want to get
these cards out to market as soon as possible
whereas opposed to the 3080 that's coming out on september 17th and then
the rtx 3090 is about a week later so the 38 is actually going to hit
the market first and i believe it's going to be one of the best value cards
in this lineup coming in with performance of a value proposition at
least versus the 2080 ti of what my numbers would guess here is
186 percent roughly 44 more fps and roughly 42
percent better valuable costing 70 of the original thousand
dollar 2080 ti it's going to deliver much better fps
it's also going to be much more power efficient
and also deliver a better price point then look at the rtx 3070
that will be roughly just under 200 of the value
of an rtx 2080 ti so that will edge out the 3080
but in the realm of getting the max fps possible
that's why i'm leaning towards the rtx 3080 actually being one of the best
buyers for enthusiast tech heads out there with this current lineup though
lastly the big fish in the room the rtx 3090
coming in with roughly 20 more performance than the rtx 3080
they're costing over double the price is not going to be a value proposition
it's also going to be designed for someone who wants to do say more 8k
gaming with the 24 gigabyte vram buffer so it's going to have significantly more
vram than the 3080 coming in with 10 gigabytes of that stuff
versus the 24 gigabytes and another thing about the 3092 is it's got the
ability at least from nvidia's website to be able to be put into nvlink so if
you want to do some serious 8k gaming with max ultra details and of
course you've got an endless supply of money
within that wallet of yours then nvidia is certainly going to be giving you
that option so when we put it into a nutshell rtx 3090 is not really going to
be a value play but it's going to be for someone who
wants the best experience possible on pc and of course they have
a lot of money then we've got the value plays they're going to be the rtx 3080
and 3070 and also the upcoming 3060 i'm guessing
is going to be bringing really good value to the table too so
those numbers aside that's only half this video where we're looking at the
raw price performance figures and i'm just having a bit of fun
guesstimating the value and the numbers that are going to come out of these
cards what nvidia showed in their presentation
was a lot of different things in terms of not just
they're moving to eight nanometers so you're going to get
better performance per watt or better efficiency out of these cards
but they're also showing things like improved ray tracing performance more
tensor cores and also the shaders which they're
saying are going to be more efficient too
but on top of that they were working on dlss 2.0
which is essentially their super sampling tech which is going to be
giving a better image but also giving more fps
because it's doing it while super sampling up from an inferior image
previously to fill in and basically let the gpu do
the prediction on the image quality so at least that's
my interpretation of it the next thing they announced on top of the gpu launch
was one that was really cool for me
personally and this was the reflex technology
and that is that they hope to reduce the input lag by essentially working with
the game developers to offer a new mode that's going to offer overall better
input latency so what we can see with this graph that they showed here
was that they had the average system input latency and at the end of the
graph we could see that that line had moved
drastically to the left but at the start of the graph the line had only moved a
little bit to the right so basically what they're saying is they're
going to be looking uh working with the game developers is my
guess again in that they're going to be making sure
that the slowest frames or the stuttering or micro stuttering is
eliminated from the game by drawing the gpu frames as fast as
possible another good thing is you don't have to own an rtx 3000 card
to get this technology they're going to be introducing it released from the
graphs with gpus like the gtx 10 series and rtx
2000 series as well though another thing they did announce
was with a new series of monitors they've got these 360 hertz monitors
coming out but they're going to be adding
an input latency or system latency module into the monitors themselves so
you monitor things like your pc latency your mouse latency or your total system
input latency including the monitors by using this
module so that's going to bring for some really
cool comparisons where i've been doing these in the past
with 1000 fps camera i'm going to be definitely testing that
against the 1000 fps camera and just seeing how cool this module
really is where a lot of mouse reviewers out there
especially my friend rocket jump ninja could really use
a technology like this when they're doing their mice reviews just to get you
guys exact mouse input latency figures but
speaking of reducing input output they did talk about rtx io
which essentially looks to get really fast gen 4
ssds and load up things like textures and
map pop-ins just directly from the ssd to the gpu
where as opposed to beforehand it would have to go all the way through the cpu
pipeline and then out to the gpu so nvidia claims
this will bring more fps as well as reduced input latency on top
of reducing input latencies by working with
the game developers and their apis so performance figures
latency figures we're done talking about that but they also announced rtx
broadcast in their software suite which is
essentially going to help streamers without green screens so
even like i'm using this backdrop here i won't need a green screen and i could
put myself in the middle of new york bringing a live stream minus the ambient
noise well actually even if you had the ambient noise i think they got the rtx
voice thing that could cancel out the ambient noise
so you could just say hey i'm actually in new york
and maybe people would believe you or they wouldn't believe you
but this is essentially using your gpu just like rtx voice did
to process the background and eliminate it and just keep the subject in focus
how well that's actually going to work just in say a setup like mine
i will test for you guys when we get the gpus as well as testing
everything like this input latency numbers the performance
when i get these cards in and i start testing them when the review embargoes
drop i'll just give you guys the numbers
straight and of course if you've got special requests on the testing
that you want to see then do drop a comment in the comment section below and
also let us know in the comment section below
is this the gpu launch you've been waiting for which are the cards are you
looking at getting or are you going to wait
for say the rtx 3060 and possibly an rtx 3050
to come out before you get your next lineup of gpu
in that rig of yours though before we get on out here there's one more thing
to talk about and that is the coolers and the power connectors that they've
announced now they've listed on their website the 3090 is going to have 350
watt power requirement and with that power supply recommendations of 750
watts just to be on the safe side and that continues for the 3080 with its
power requirement of 320 watts then down to the 3070 which is 220 watts
and recommended power supply is 650 watt
though the 12 pin power connector this was seen in the video footage
so that will be a thing though i'm guessing nvidia is just going to throw
in an adapter so if you've got a currently good high
powered power supply you're going to have to worry about this and i believe
this is going to be the way for quite some time to come though we
are seeing custom aib models being shown out there in the wild and a lot of
them are just still going with the eight pin connectors
and in the case of a zeus i can see a three eight pin requirement there so
the 3090 is going to need a bit of power but at the same time it's going to be a
very powerful gpu so naturally with that extra power
consumption you're going to have to need four extra power connectors or in the
case of nvidia introducing a new 12 pin power connector
though the cooling design itself on the reference model is something to i guess
look at and wait and see and see how it performs because
the science and at least from what they show with the illustrations does make a
lot of sense where you're going to have one part of the gpu
venting out like a traditional reference card
but then you're going to have the fresh air in a good airflow case by the way
and i'm guessing in video saying well since you're buying these higher end
cards you're most likely going to have a higher end case with good airflow so
this is designed for a higher airflow case scenario
where the back of the gpu is then going to flow air
out over the cpu so would this make hotter cpu
temps or is this designed with aio water coolers in mind i'll give you guys
the numbers when that drops here at the channel
in the meantime a lot of the aib partners are just going with the
traditional just fans blowing air onto the gpu seems
to work and it has worked for quite some time
it's still going to work absolutely fine and of course back to that age-old
saying if it ain't broke don't fix it so speaking of not fixing
things this question of the day we don't really need to fix it it's from angelo
king and they asked do you know the name of
your wallpaper it looks nice in the background
and the wallpaper that i'm currently rocking right now is a photo that we
took locally here actually rocket jump
ninja's eye he took that photo and it's just of the beautiful ray trace
sunset on the gold coast here so if you guys want uh this photo i can
just maybe google drive it for you and you can rock it as your background
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