>>ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ HAS BEEN GETTING A LOT OF PRESS
LATELY, SHE IS THE CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE WHO WON THE PRIMARY
AGAINST AN ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRAT IN THE STATE OF NEW
YORK, AND SHE RAN A VERY BOLD, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST CAMPAIGN.
NOW, THE SMEARS HAVE BEGUN FROM THOSE ON THE RIGHT WING, AND
SOME PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AS WELL WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE
PAST, BUT RECENTLY I WAS ON HLN DEBATING SOMEONE FROM THE RIGHT
WING, A CONSERVATIVE BY THE NAME OF ALLIE STUCKEY, SHE'S THE HOST
OF THE CONSERVATIVE REVIEW, AND SHE MADE A LOT OF ERRORS IN
DESCRIBING WHAT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS.
SO FIRST FOR
ANYONE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS, I WAS ASKED WHAT
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS AND I ANSWER IN THIS NEXT VIDEO.
>>ANA, SOME MIGHT SAY THAT MEANS FREE STUFF FOR EVERYONE.
>>THAT'S THE WAY THAT INDIVIDUALS WANT TO DEFAME
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS, AS IF EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR A
HANDOUT.
BUT IN REALITY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, AND I DO ALSO
IDENTIFY AS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST, IS EQUALITY OF
OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO A GUARANTEE OF WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS FOR HUMAN BEINGS, INCLUDING COMPLETE
COVERAGE OF HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, THE BASICS TO
SURVIVE.
NO ONE IS LOOKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO MAKE OUR
SNEAKERS, WE AREN'T LOOKING TO OVERTHROW A CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM,
BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO REFORM IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE MAJORITY
OF THE WEALTH AND THE INCOME IS REALLY FOCUSED AND TARGETED
TOWARD THE TOP 1%.
EVERYONE ELSE IS SUFFERING INCLUDING THE MILL
CLASS, WHICH CONTINUES TO SHRINK UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
>>THAT'S NEARLY A PERFECT ANSWER.
YOU ARE KIND OF AWESOME.
SO I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND, FURTHER CONTEXT NOW
THAT WE AREN'T ON TV AND HAVE MORE TIME TO TALK, IS THAT FIRST
OF ALL THE WHOLE THING IS A MISNOMER BECAUSE ALL SIDES USE
THE WORD SOCIALISM WITHOUT EVER DEFINING IT, AND THE REALITY IS
THAT ALMOST ALL THE WESTERN COUNTRIES LIVE IN A MIXED
ECONOMY.
SO THERE'S ONLY QUESTIONS AROUND THE EDGES, AND
MOST OF THOSE ARE SETTLED FOR ALMOST ALL THE COUNTRIES EXCEPT
US.
WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?
ARE THERE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC
SECTOR DOES IN EVERY COUNTRY INCLUDING AMERICA?
OF COURSE,
THERE ARE COPS, THE MILITARY, FIREFIGHTERS, AND SO MANY OTHER
THINGS THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES.
IT'S NOT LIKE PRIVATE CAPITAL
DOES EVERYTHING.
NOW, IN THE REST OF THE DEVELOPED WORLD THE
GOVERNMENT ALSO PROVIDES HEALTHCARE, THAT'S PART OF
EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY THAT ANA WAS REFERRING TO BECAUSE IF YOU
ARE DEAD YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY.
SO MOST CIVILIZED
COUNTRIES SAY WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A BIRMINGHAM STANDARD FOR
HEALTHCARE FOR OUR CITIZENS.
WE DON'T, WE ARE MORE VICIOUS.
BUT
WE STILL LIVE IN A MIXED ECONOMY.
AND IN EUROPE THEY
DON'T HAVE THE GOVERNMENT MAKE FURNITURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
HAVE HEARD OF A STORE CALLED IKEA, THAT'S IN A VERY SOCIALIST
COUNTRY, IN SWEDEN.
THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T MAKE
MEATBALLS AND THEY DON'T MAKE FURNITURE.
IT'S A MIXED ECONOMY.
SO WHAT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS ARE SAYING IN THIS COUNTRY IS WE
SHOULD ALSO DO HEALTHCARE, LIKE THE REST OF THE WESTERN WORLD,
THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD, AND NOT JUST THE WEST BUT JAPAN
AND ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE HAD GREAT SUCCESS AND
HAVE MUCH BETTER HEALTHCARE FOR THEIR CITIZENS AT A LOWER COST.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S A MAJOR FACTOR IS, DO YOU DO
FREE COLLEGE?
AND THERE HAS BEEN GREAT SUCCESS WITH COUNTRIES
THAT HAVE DONE FREE COLLEGE, IT ACTUALLY STIMULATES THE ECONOMY,
IT CREATES MORE JOBS, ETC.
NOW, WE ARE HAVING THIS TOTALLY FAKE
DEBATE IN THE NATIONAL MEDIA ABOUT ARE YOU A SOCIALIST OR
NOT?
A SOCIALIST OR CAPITALIST?
>>YOU KNOW WHY?
THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO
INTENTIONALLY MISLEAD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS.
THEY TRY TO PAINT THIS PICTURE OF
FIDEL CASTRO AND CHE GUEVARA DOING A VIOLENT REVOLUTION AND
MURDERING PEOPLE AND BASICALLY HAVING THE GOVERNMENT CONTROL
EVERYTHING WITH NO PRIVATE SECTOR.
THAT IS NOT WHAT
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS WANT.
LET'S MAKE THAT ABSOLUTELY
CLEAR.
AND THEN THERE ARE THE HONESTLY IDIOTS WHO FALL FOR
THAT PROPAGANDA.
AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAD TO PUSH BACK
AGAINST THAT PROPAGANDA IN THIS ENTIRE SEGMENT THAT I WAS
PARTICIPATING IN.
NOW, I'M REALLY HAPPY WE AT LEAST HAD
THAT CONVERSATION AND HOPEFULLY IT INFORMS SOME PEOPLE, BUT I DO
WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT VIDEO BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE YOU A SENSE
OF HOW MUCH THAT PROPAGANDA HAS MANAGED TO SEEP INTO THE MINDS
OF SO MANY AMERICANS.
>>FIRST OF ALL THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS MOVED MUCH FURTHER TO
THE LEFT SINCE 1990, THAT'S NOT AN OPINION, YOU CAN LOOK AT PEW
RESEARCH ON VIRTUALLY EVERY SINGLE ISSUE SINCE 1990 THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS MOVED TO THE LEFT WHEREAS REPUBLICANS
HAVE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME, SO IT'S NOT TRUE TO SAY THAT THIS
IS SOME SORT OF REFORM GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE FACT IS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING
SOCIALIST CANDIDATES OUT THERE, AND SOCIALISM HAS NOT WORKED.
YOU CAN TELL ME DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS DIFFERENT, IT'S NOT
TRUE, IT'S JUST SOCIALISM YOU CHOOSE.
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO
MAINTAIN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY IN WHICH THE GOVERNMENT TAKES OVER
THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION, IT DOESN'T WORK, THERE ARE HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF DEAD AND BURIED PEOPLE THAT CAN ATTEST TO THE
DANGER OF SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM.
>>YOU ARE CONFUSING SOCIALISM -- DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM WITH
SOCIALISM.
NO ONE IS LOOKING TO OVERTHROW A CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM,
I BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM, BUT WE HAVE NOW CRONY CAPITALISM.
AND
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN GENERAL, THAT INCLUDES REPUBLICANS, ARE
SICK OF IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE APPROVAL RATING FOR DONALD
TRUMP'S MASSIVE TAX CUTS FOR CORPORATIONS, EVEN AMONG
REPUBLICANS, THE APPROVAL RATING HAS DROPPED CONSIDERABLY BECAUSE
PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED, LOOK, ALL THESE TAX CUTS ARE ONLY
BENEFITING THE TOP 1%, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>>THAT'S NOT TRUE.
>>BY THE WAY, A FEDERAL JUDGE APPOINTED BY BUSH, BY BUSH, JUST
STRUCK DOWN THE ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, INDICATING THAT YES, THE RIGHT WING HAS MOVED
FURTHER TO THE RIGHT.
>>SO, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, THEY GO ON TV AND UNLESS
THERE IS SOMEONE LIKE ANA WHO WILL FIGHT BACK AND NOT LET HER
STEAMROLL THEM THEY JUST GO, OH, SOCIALISM MEANS YOU TAKE OVER
ALL MEANS OF PRODUCTION, THAT'S WHAT DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM MEANS.
THAT IS NOT REMOTELY TRUE.
AND IT MEANS MILLIONS OF DEAD
PEOPLE.
OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, ALL THESE WORDS, EVERYONE PUTS
DIFFERENT MEANING ON THEM.
I GUESS SHE'S REFERRING TO
COMMUNISM, OKAY, SO STALIN TAKES OVER COMMUNISM, I DON'T BELIEVE
IN COMMUNISM AT ALL, AND HE TAKES IT OVER AND THEN THERE IS
MILLIONS OF DEAD PEOPLE.
WELL, RIGHT NEXT DOOR WAS HITLER, WHO
DID FASCISM, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF THE CORPORATE
WORLD WITH THE GOVERNMENT, AND MILLIONS OF DEAD PEOPLE.
SO TWO
CAN PLAY AT THIS GAME.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE FOR, THE
POLICY POSITIONS TODAY, NOT YOUR FANTASIES.
SO THE POLICY
POSITIONS ARE THE ONES WE JUST OUTLINED.
AND EVERY ONE OF HER
CLAIMS WAS WRONG.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS MOVED WAY TO THE LEFT
SINCE THE 1990S?
WAIT A MINUTE, IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
POLLING OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, YES, THE POLLING SHOWS NOT JUST
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS BUT ALMOST ALL THE VOTERS HAVE MOVED TO THE
LEFT.
THE POLITICIANS DON'T LISTEN TO THEM, BUT THE VOTERS
HAVE MOVED TO THE LEFT, THEY DO WANT MEDICARE FOR ALL, LEGALIZED
MARIJUANA, A RAISED MINIMUM WAGE, I DON'T WANT TO LET THE
BANKS TAKE THOSE RISKS AND RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER US, BUT ARE
DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS MOVING TO THE LEFT?
NO, UNTIL BERNIE
SANDERS AND ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ THEY WERE MOVING
TO THE RIGHT, THEY WERE PRO-CORPORATE BECAUSE THEY TAKE
CORPORATE DONATIONS.
TO CLAIM THAT THEY WERE LEFTIST OR
SOCIALIST IS PREPOSTEROUS.
>>SHE HAD MENTIONED, ALL MY GOSH, I'M BLANKING RIGHT NOW,
THE LAWMAKER THAT EVERYONE SAYS IS NEXT IN LINE TO BE THE NEXT
OBAMA BUT HE TOOK ALL THAT MONEY FROM PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, I
CAN'T BELIEVE I'M BLANKING ON HIS NAME.
>>CORY BOOKER?
>>WOW.
SHE HAD MENTIONED CORY BOOKER IN THIS EXCHANGE, WE
CAN'T SHOW YOU THE FULL VIDEO BECAUSE IT'S LIKE 11 MINUTES
LONG, BUT SHE DESCRIBED HIM AS, LIKE, FAR LEFT, RADICAL LEFTY.
>>CORY BOOKER, FAR LEFT.
HILARIOUS.
>>DO YOUR RESEARCH IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE TYPES OF
CLAIMS.
AND I'VE BEEN ON THIS SHOW SEVERAL TIMES, I LOVE DOING
THE SHOW, IT AT LEAST GIVES ME A CHANCE TO GET PROGRESSIVE IDEAS
OUT THERE IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, RIGHT?
BUT I ALWAYS TRY
TO BE RESPECTFUL BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CROSS TALKING OR TALKING
OVER PEOPLE, BUT WHAT THEY TELL YOU?
I'M DONE BEING NICE, I'M
DONE BEING MRS.
NICE WOMAN OR WHATEVER.
I WANT TO FIGHT BACK,
WE CAN'T KEEP LETTING THEM RUN WITH THEIR NARRATIVE AND CONTROL
THE MESSAGING OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TIME
AND AGAIN.
PEOPLE LITERALLY THINK THAT WE WANT THE
GOVERNMENT TO TAKE OVER EVERYTHING.
I CAN TELL YOU, I
DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT MAKING THE CLOTHES I WEAR.
I DON'T WANT
THE GOVERNMENT DECIDING WHAT CAR I DRIVE.
I DON'T WANT THE
GOVERNMENT DOING ANY OF THAT, BUT WHAT I DO WANT IS TO ENSURE
THAT AMERICANS HAVE THE BARE NECESSITIES TO SURVIVE.
AND BY
THE WAY, SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW AMERICA IS THE NUMBER ONE
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, WE ARE NUMBER ONE -- I HAVE THE STATS
TO PROVE THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
>> BUT WHAT I DO WANT IS TO ENSURE THAT AMERICANS HAVE THE
BARE NECESSITIES TO SURVIVE.
BY THE WAY, SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW AMERICA IS THE NUMBER ONE
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
>>I JUST WANT TO SAY TWO THINGS, UNLIKE THAT PERSON WE ACTUALLY
DO STUDY FACTS AND TALK ABOUT IT ON THE SHOW?
WHEN WE SAY CORY BOOKER IS NOWHERE NEAR A LEFTIST
THERE IS A REASON.
WHEN 2012 WHEN OBAMA WAS RUNNING AGAINST MITT ROMNEY, AND HE
LIKELY TWEAKED WALL STREET.
CORY BOOKER DEFENDED MITT ROMNEY.
PEOPLE COULD HAVE LEGITIMATE DEBATES ABOUT HOW MUCH WORK A
CONTROL SHOULD THERE BE OVER COMPANIES.
A REALLY INTERESTING MODEL IS IN GERMANY WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR
BOARDS HALF LABOR, AND HALF INVESTORS AND MANAGEMENT.
>> LET'S GO TO THE NEXT VIDEO BECAUSE THIS WAS MY
PERSONAL FAVORITE.
TAKE A LOOK.
>>DO WE WANT TO START PAYING CLOSE TO HUNDRED PERCENT IN
INCOME TAXES LIKE SCANDINAVIA?
COUNTRIES THAT BERNIE SANDERS
HAS SAID THAT HE ACTUALLY LOVES AND WANTS TO MODEL OUR COUNTRY
AFTER.
>> UNBELIEVABLE NO ONE IS ASKING ñ YOU ARE PAINTING A COMPLETELY
FALSE NARRATIVE OR PICTURE OF WHAT THOSE ON THE LEFT ARE
ASKING FOR.
NO ONE IS ASKING FOR 100% TAXATION.
>> I'M NOT ASSUMING THINGS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT SCANDINAVIA, AND THE COUNTRIES WHO OF
ACTUALLY EMBRACE SOCIALISM.
THEY DON'T DO WELL.
>> I HAVE THE DATA.
FIRST OF ALL, NO ONE HAS ASKED ME FOR 100%
TAXATION, I SAID THAT IN THAT CLIP.
BERNIE SANDERS NEVER SAID HE WANTED TO TEXT PEOPLE IN
THAT, IT IS PREPOSTEROUS.
>> THEY SAY THE SAME THINGS AND THEY SAY WHEN IT IS NOT TRUE
THEY SAY WHY ARE YOU UNCIVIL?
THINK ABOUT HOW MONSTROUSLY STUPID THAT IS.
SHE JUST SAYS IT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE.
>>LET'S GET THE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES BECAUSE SHE TALKS
ABOUT HOW SHE SAYS HE WANTS US TO BE LIKE THE SCANDINAVIAN
COUNTRIES.
HOW TERRIBLE.
BUT ACTUALLY NOT.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY MUCH BETTER THAN US.
FIRST LET'S START WITH LIFE EXPECTANCY.
DO AMERICANS LIVE LONGER LIVES THAN PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
THOSE HORRIBLE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES.
IF YOU COMPARES THE SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES WE ARE LAST.
THIS IS BASED ON THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
WHAT ABOUT GRADUATION RATES FOR HIGH SCHOOL OR SECONDARY
EDUCATION?
FINLAND IS NUMBER ONE, UNSURPRISING.
DENMARK IS NUMBER TWO, NORWAY ñ 87% ñ UNITED STATES IS AT 83%.
BUT IF YOU COMPARES TO OTHER SCANDINAVIAN COUNTRIES, WE ARE
NOT THE BEST.
>> ONE QUICK NOTE ON FINLAND, THEY DO NOT ALLOW FOR
PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
AND IN AMERICA ñ 99% GRADUATION RATE, NOT ONLY ABOUT THEY TEST
THE VERY BEST OUT OF ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD IN
ALMOST EVERY CATEGORY.
TURNS OUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS WORK.
THOSE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE WHAT MADE THIS COUNTRY GREAT.
>>LET'S LOOK AT POVERTY RATES.
WHEN IT COMES TO POVERTY ONLY 5.5% OF THE POPULATION IS LIVING
IN POVERTY AND DENMARK.
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE UNITED STATES, 16.8%.
>> BUT WOMEN LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T CARE.
THAT IS POOR PEOPLE.
IF THEY ARE SUFFERING, SO WHAT?
I GET THAT PART.
ONE LAST THING I LOVED ABOUT YOUR APPEARANCE THERE IS THAT I
KNOW THE REPUBLICAN STRATEGY AND THEY TELL PEOPLE THAT GO ON
TV THIS, FILIBUSTER.
THOSE TV SEGMENTS ARE REALLY SHORT.
TALK FOR AS LONG AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN SO JEFF WEINER GETS LESS
TIME, THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN TAKE YOU INTO ACCOUNT WHICH WAS
A MISTAKE.
THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE ON THE LEFT
TO BE STRONG AND SAY WE ARE NOT
GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY WITH
STUFF THAT IS NOT TRUE, AND PROVABLY WRONG, AND HILARIOUS.
SO THAT IS WHAT STRENGTH LOOKS LIKE.