-Welcome back. It is always great to see you.
Michelle, congratulations, by the way.
Yesterday, you just got nominated
for a Critic's Choice Award. -I know.
[ Cheers and applause ] -That's a big deal.
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-I know. It's such an illustrious group of actresses.
It's such an honor.
-You crushed it as Betty Ford in "The First Lady."
Yeah, she was amazing. [ Cheers and applause ]
I was reading up a little bit about you,
and I saw something I thought was interesting.
That when you get a role or a job, that you either
try to get out of it or try to get fired from it.
-Yeah, yeah. [ Laughter ]
-Is that true? -I mean, sometimes the only way
to get out is to get fired. -But that's true?
-It's just all -- It's just --
My hands are sweating as we're even discussing this.
I get performance anxiety. -You do?
-Yeah, and I do. And I get --
You know, people are always so surprised that an actor
would have performance anxiety, but...
-But you do. -Yeah.
And I guess they say -- they do say, though,
when that stops, you should really hang it up.
-Oh. -That it's sort of part of
the juice that kind of gets us going.
-Yeah. Every night I feel like --
"Yeah, I'm not coming out." -Yeah?
[ Laughter ]
And then I just keep coming out, yeah.
-You keep coming out. -I keep coming out.
But every movie? "Scarface?" Everything?
"Batman Returns"? -No, no.
I didn't, because I was obsessed with Catwoman
since I was a little girl. -Yeah.
[ Cheers and applause ]
-Yeah. And, actually,
someone was cast before me --
Annette Benning, who's wonderful.
-Wow. -And then she got pregnant.
Awesome. -Yeah.
-And then I got the part! I got the part!
[ Cheers and applause ] -Wow.
You nailed it.
And, you know, congrats on "The Ant-Man" movies, as well.
Do you like doing superhero movies?
I think you're pretty good in them.
-Yeah, I mean, they're kind -- look, they're a mixed bag.
You know, like, the outfits are always super uncomfortable,
and you forget it's like childbirth a little bit.
[ Laughter ]
But it's -- you know, "Ant-Man" is such a fun one to work on.
It's such a great group of people.
-Great cast. -And funny and smart.
And it was really fun, this last one,
because, first one, I wasn't really in it that much.
I sort of showed up for a couple weeks
and did my bit and then left.
And I didn't really honestly get to know them.
But this time, I was there for the long run.
-Yeah. Paul Rudd said that
everyone freaked out at "The Avengers: Endgame,"
the final scene, when you walked on set.
And they were all sitting there, like, "Oh, my God.
Michelle Pfeiffer." -No.
-Yeah, that is definitely true. He told me, he said that.
-Well, I wasn't aware of that. I was freaking out.
-You were trying to get out of it.
You were trying to get fired from "Avengers: Endgame."
Like, yeah. [ Laughter ]
Do you ever get excited about meeting anyone?
-I do.
Actually, I was really excited to work with Jonathan Majors.
He's in "Ant-Man," and we have --
A lot of our scenes are together.
And, you know, it's an interesting, this one is.
I don't know what I'm allowed to say.
-Yeah. I know, you're really not allowed to say much.
-They give you a whole list of what you can't say
but not anything what you can say, so...
-Next time you come on, I want you to bring that list.
[ Laughter ] I want to read what you --
-And I'll just read it.
-"Here's exactly what I can't say about the movie."
-Yeah. -Also, your giant movie career.
You also have this amazing fragrance line.
Henry Rose. -I do.
-Congratulations on this. -Oh, and you happen to have it
back there. -Oh, yes, I do.
[ Cheers and applause ]
And I want to talk about this.
'Cause I do like the packaging, as well.
The packaging is very cool.
Can you see -- You can see "Henry Rose" through the bottle.
-Yeah. -Can you see that?
-And how did this come about?
When did this start taking off? -Well, it started --
Really, the genesis of it was really around 25 years ago
when I became a new mom.
And I started looking at the world
through my children's eyes, like a lot of people do.
And I started paying closer attention to
what I was exposing them to and looking at the ingredients
and the things we were putting on our bodies.
And -- And, you know, what I discovered is that
fragrance was completely non-transparent.
It was really the last black box of transparency.
And so I stopped wearing fragrance for 10 years.
And I love, obviously -- I love fragrance.
And, um...
-Was it difficult to get off the ground, or were you like,
"I'm Michelle Pfeiffer, so let's just do this"?
[ Laughter ]
-No, no. It was -- I --
So, about 15 years ago, I --
And after trying all kinds of concoctions on the market,
I really missed that sort of fine fragrance.
And I decided, "Okay. Well, I'm gonna see if I can do this.
There must be other people looking for this product."
And nobody really understood it.
And I think I was just a little too ahead of the curve.
And so, I -- It's a good thing I'm good
with rejection because, you know, I'd go out there
and make a go of it and get rejected,
and I'd, you know, go with my tail between my legs,
and I'd shelve it for a while, and then I'd bring it back.
-You kept bringing it back. -And try again.
And then I'd shelve it for two years.
And then, finally, about five years ago,
I thought, "Okay." It was New Year's Day.
I remember. I said, "Okay.
What do you want to do this year?"
"I'm gonna give that fragrance thing one more try."
-Yes! [ Cheers and applause ]
-So, anyway, 2019 --
So, I finally found -- I found --
I.F.F. was a great partner.
I went directly to -- I bypassed the cosmetic industry.
I went directly to the perfume house
and started working with perfumers.
And in 2019, we launched with five transformative,
100% transparent fragrances
that really, you know, disrupted the fragrance market.
And we really created a new category.
And so, we are the very first genderless line of
luxury fine fragrances to have earned
the safety stamp of approval. [ Cheers and applause ]
-It's amazing that you did that. -Yeah.
We launched just direct to consumer.
And this year, we've moved into retail.
And people can go on the website
and use the location finder to find a store near you.
-Michelle, that's massive. That's so cool.
-I know, it's very cool. [ Cheers and applause ]
-Yeah, I love that.
Do you find, now that you're doing this now,
do you have a heightened sense of smell?
-Well... [ Laughter ]
Little fun fact. -Yeah.
-I was -- I was at the E.N.T., you know...
-Yeah. -...getting probed, which is
a really nice experience. -Ear, nose, and throat, yeah.
-Yeah, and he's looking up -- you know, looking up my nostril,
and he says... -That's what they do.
-He goes, "Oh. Interesting."
[ Laughter ]
And I said, "What? What's interesting?"
He goes, "Oh, well, you have an organ
in your nose..." -What?
-"...that people don't usually have."
It's like an organ, right? -I don't know, yeah.
[ Laughter ]
I don't know what I would do.
-He said it's called the vomeronasal organ.
And you find it in mammals, in animals.
And they really use it
to detect pheromones and mate.
-Wow!
[ Cheers and applause ]
Wow. Cool.
-And I have this. -You have it?
-So, I have sort of have an animalistic
kind of sense of smell, I guess.
-This is perfect then! See?
-Who knew? -Who knew?
Well, I thought maybe we would put it to the test
and play a fun game when we come back.
Are you down with that? -Yeah, I'm down with that.
But you've practiced that game a lot, and I haven't.
-I don't practice anything.
-Yeah. [ Laughter ]
I have no idea. -Yeah, but you live here.
-Are you looking for -- I do live here.
[ Laughter ] I sleep under this desk.
-I'm looking for a scent --
-Are you looking for a scent for me?
-Yeah, I want to try it on you. This one.
-How do I put it on -- Can I ask how I -- How do I --
-You want to do the dolphin thing?
-Yeah. -All right.
-I kind of dive into it.
You spray it, and I'll dolphin my way through it.
-Okay. You ready? -Yeah.
-Okay.
Wait.
[ Cheers and applause ]
-Wow!
Ooh, that's fun! Yeah!
Oh, I'm feeling it! Now I got it now, too!
I love it! Michelle Pfeiffer and I
are playing a new game after the break! Stick around!