hi andy do you want to come on in and
have a seat
i'm dr taylor i'm the on-call
psychiatrist for this afternoon
i got a call this morning from your
family doctor
because i think you went to see him this
morning along with your mum and i gather
that things have been a little bit
difficult for you you've had some other
distressing experiences
so i think your doctor thought it might
be helpful for us to have a bit of a
discussion about that to see if i could
help
would that be all right with you
well it's fine
would it be all right andy for you to
tell me a little bit about what's been
going on
well
you're gonna think it sounds stupid but
my housemates are working for
mi5 right and they're uh they're doing
stuff to my brain okay
they're out to get me okay that must be
very difficult for you okay
how long has this been going on for andy
about two months right and how did you
first work that this is what was
happening
i came home um
one time and and moved the
move the tv to the other side of the
room and i just i knew then
and what was it that you knew at that
moment
that um
that there were for mr5 right okay
okay so it's been going on a couple of
months yeah
this new lecturer started at uni
and um
and he worked for mi5 and
he basically drafted me housemates in
bring them against me okay yeah okay
now i've noticed a couple of times while
we've been talking you've sort of looked
around you
into the room as if you're checking for
something could i ask you what's
happening at those times
well i can i can hear them talking a
moment right
who is it you can hear
my housemates right
so that you recognize it as their voices
yeah i can hear them all the time right
how many voices can you hear andy three
there's three of them okay and do they
sound real like my voice sounds talking
to you now
yeah it's hard it's it's
it's like i can i can hear them when
they're not here right and so what
they're not and when they're not in the
house with you
yeah it's like yeah like they're in the
other room okay
okay and can you hear what they're
actually saying yeah they're talking
about me right they're always talking
about me okay
they're always commenting on everything
that i'm doing right
can you give me an example of what they
would say well like if
i'm packing my bag to go to uni or
something they'll be they'll comment on
that like he's left the house now okay
okay yeah
anything else do they ever talk to each
other perhaps about you
yeah that's what they do i mean and now
they know
the sort of
the sort of twig that i i know about
them right
they're saying like i'm
i'm making trouble okay and um
and
they're gonna sort me out okay okay what
about actually talking directly to you
in the way that i'm talking to you now
does that ever happen andy
no
okay so you've been you've been hearing
the voices of your housemates have there
been any other changes have there been
any changes perhaps to the way you're
thinking sometimes people tell us that
they're thinking changes in some way so
for example they might feel that they're
getting thoughts put into their head
that aren't their own you had any
experiences like that
yeah um
i do
think things that that aren't me like
okay to put in thing they're putting
stuff in my brain it's not
it's not me it's not i'm not thinking so
different thoughts in your brain yeah
it's like
it's stupid stuff as well it's like the
other
the other day i was just i'd suddenly
just start thinking about some woman in
coronation street i don't watch anything
like christ it's not your kind of thing
normally right they're not my thoughts
right okay and do you have any idea how
that that's happening
or who's responsible it's mri5 it's this
chip that put in my head right okay
and um
i can feel it all the time okay
so you're getting thoughts put into your
brain that aren't your own
what about a different sort of
experience what about the experience
that somehow other people are able to
know what you're thinking even though
you haven't actually told them
no they don't know nothing like that
they're just putting stuff in mine just
putting stuff and can i just check andy
as well that you're not getting the
experience when your thoughts just stop
all together like you have no thoughts
left
no
if anything there's too much in there i
wish i could unplug it okay okay get
this thing out of my head
you mentioned this this chip or this
device in your brain you want to tell me
a bit more about that
well it's
it's it's a tracking device so they know
where i am at all times and then i can
i can feel it moving around like
rotating feel the physical sensation in
your brain okay okay that must be very
difficult for you
i don't know why they're doing this to
me i've done nothing wrong okay
can i just check are there any problems
andy with the rest of your body any
changes in sensation or any bits that
feel different in any way
no i feel fine i'm not right i'm not ill
or anything okay i just want this thing
on my head okay
it sounds like a very difficult time for
you can i ask you andy how are you
coping with all this how's it affecting
you
well
i know we're leaving my room much
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and i
sort of have to wait till they go out to
go down and get some food but right
they've been doing stuff to my food now
okay what do you think is happening to
your food the
poison in it right okay are you actually
eating much at the moment
no
okay
now with all this happening and this
sounds like you don't feel very safe
have i got that right
okay have you felt the need i don't know
to take steps to protect yourself in any
way
well um
i've got a knife okay
and um
i've got like a baseball bat
it's just in case they get in my room i
just okay i don't want to hurt anyone i
just feel like i've got to protect
myself it's like
it's cornering me
to do this right okay have you felt the
need to use either the knife or the
baseball bat so far
i'd take it out with you for protection
no i
no i don't want to get caught
okay okay it's just in my room okay
has it ever got so bad andy that you
felt the need to hurt yourself or even
kill yourself
as the only way out the only way of
coping with this
i
thought about
getting some pills but i couldn't
i couldn't leave the house so i didn't i
didn't
get anything when you said getting some
pills would that be to take an overdose
of tablets
yeah but you've not actually done
anything about that so far
okay
in the past have you ever had any
problems either with your temper or
getting into fights being aggressive
either with your housemates or anybody
else no i'm not that kind of person i
don't want to
i don't want to hurt anybody
right they're just driving me to this
and can i just check again you've not
been in trouble with the police or
anything like that no never okay
with all this that's going on
is there anywhere at the moment andy
that you feel safe
um
my parents house right okay
and have you seen much of your parents
recently yeah
thought about going back there but i
i don't want to drag them into this i
don't want mr5 knowing about it right
and throughout this last couple of
months when you've had all these worries
have you ever worried that your parents
might in some way be involved in this
conspiracy
i thought about it but um
no
okay
can i just check out a couple of
background things with you andy your
general health is that okay you
generally fit and well
yeah
i'm not ill i don't there's nothing
wrong with me it's just this thing in my
hand
and you're not on any regular medication
from your own doctor at this stage no i
don't take any okay what about other
drugs and by that i'm meaning alcohol
cannabis pills anything else
i don't i don't drink much alcohol right
okay and what about drugs like cannabis
uh is my mom going to know about this no
i think it's important that i hear about
but this wouldn't be something we'd be
discussing with your mum
i'd smoke a bit weird okay would that be
regular most days
yeah
and how much would you be spending on
weed
again i could
get like a tan bag it'll last me a day
or something okay
so you have a ten bag lasting you a day
of weed any other drugs i'm thinking in
particular things like speed or or pills
done a bit of speed okay
is that on a regular basis andy
why i used
i was grabbing my weights for the
weekend would do a bit but okay when was
the last time andy that you'd had any
speed
about a week or so ago right
okay any other drugs at all
no
i don't know but i know i know what
you're getting at though it's it's not
it's not the drugs right
this is
it doesn't matter how my face i get this
is constantly there it's always there
okay i guess the reason i was checking i
think is what you've picked up on is
that sometimes when people are having
the kinds of experiences that you are
they find if they take certain drugs it
can make things feel a lot worse i just
wanted to check that haven't been your
experience
no okay okay
i appreciate from what you're saying
you're really very worried about this
mi5 conspiracy and that that's the cause
of the difficulties that you're having
at the moment
i just wanted to check with you do you
think it could be due to anything else i
mean i've obviously met other people
who've had similar experiences and
sometimes they're extremely stressed
some people might be actually mentally
unwell and just whether any of these
things might be relevant to you at the
moment
no because
i'm not ill right it's them and
i've read books on this as well i don't
the government know about them right
they know that they do this to loads of
people i don't know how they can get
away with it i've done nothing wrong i
don't know why they're doing this to me
okay i just want it
okay stop sure and i think i can
appreciate that i guess what i'm
wondering is whether you think there's
anything that someone like me might be
able to do to help you as a doctor that
sometimes
meeting with someone like a psychiatrist
or having medication or for some people
even coming into hospital for a short
time might be helpful do you think any
of those things would help you at the
moment
i don't
i don't know i mean
i'm only here really because i'm a warm
man
i don't want to worry about it i've
tried to talk to her about it
she doesn't understand she doesn't
really
believe me i mean
do you believe me well i certainly
believe and that you're having a really
difficult time at the moment i guess
what i'm not sure about is what's
causing this and i'm i'm less sure this
is due to mi5 i guess what i'm wondering
is that perhaps you're not as well as
you might be at the moment
i mean we've been through a lot of
questions and what i'm thinking is we
need to try and come up with a way of
supporting you through this so i'm
wondering because i know your mum is i
think she's waiting in the waiting room
it might be a good chance now to get
your mum in and then perhaps the three
of us can put our heads together have a
bit of a discussion about where to go
from here and try and think of getting
you some some proper support
would that be all right if i got your
mum in
okay okay if you want to sit there then
andy i'll just get your mum okay
you