hey welcome to the full nerd computex edition
I'm here with AMD's Jim Anderson and the thing that just stole the show from
everybody which is this Threadripper second generation - I am here with AM DS Jim
Anderson sorry my brain is a little fried because I'm just there's just more
it's just warm good stuff there's so much good stuff and I gotta say cuz
coming in to Computex you know intel has 20 you know some other company has a 28
core part we hear you know rumors it's in a reaction to ambe's 24 part you
think so I don't know but then so today the big news is you bust out this which
is 32 cores 64 threads and actually that's a production sample yes so yeah
we didn't just come up with a 32 core last minute that's a production sample
so so a production sample of course means this is not made up and it's
really gonna be coming soon right you guys we said q3 3 this year really
excited to get it to get it to market get it to our in the hands of our
customers actually Gordon is you know the system I use at home is thread
Ripper so I actually I can't wait to upgrade my own system alright and
actually very nice it drops into the existing tr4 socket so if you've already
got a generation one you just pop it into the existing tr4 socket bios update
we got to do BIOS update but yeah beforehand
actually the most of those motherboards have the automatic BIOS up they don't
actually recruit require CPU but yeah so we're really excited about it
we've I've been waiting a long time to get this went to market I've been really
excited so I love this product so what the crazy thing is cuz when you
announced Oh Ripper last year there's a deal in part we don't even need the
power to do that for us so folks we've done it ourselves Jim just said if we
save some time for it we said so there are four eight core dies on here yep all
them hot yeah and so from the beginning because you guys have always been a
little coy guys and gals have been very coy about answering can you run all
for dyes hot and yes yeah this in this version in the for this is a full 32
core version so in this version all four days are hot connected through the AMD
infinity fabric so the infinity fabric which is really that magic fabric that
allows the for dye to communicate and essentially act as one big processor
right sir yeah so all four die hot and can't wait to get it into the market but
I mean clearly that the motherboard was kind of like there was a plan to like
okay one day yeah exercise option absolutely so we yeah we can't talk
about it until right now hates I couldn't talk about it before but yeah
we were always planning more than 16 cores so actually I always wanted to
push the maximum amount of performance in the thread Ripper socket and so 16
core was our first step and we were absolutely always had an intention to
bring out a full 32 core as well so yeah it's kind of the fruition of actually
you know a couple years of planning okay yeah and now you got
you can't say the actual clock speeds of the part yet not yet I could say it but
I can't but I should come and yell exactly so but we'll talk about it as we
get closer to closer to the actual launch but what I can say is you know
Rison the second generation of rice and desktop processor which launched just a
couple months ago that's based on our 12 nanometer technology at the Zen plus
architecture and so we got higher higher frequency higher boost etc so thread
Ripper generation 2 will inherit all that as well so it is on 12 nanometer
technology it's got our Zen plus core so it'll have higher clocks higher
frequency better performance per core and then it's got the great Zen 2 or
generation 2 features like the better boost algorithm etc so it's yeah it
should be a great part so all the goodness of rise in second not second
second generation is not rising - yeah in a thread in a thread Ripper in all
four dies absolutely yep and these are as you know from threader per 1 these
are the cherry-pick die right so we skimmed the best of the best
go into a thread Ripper so these are the top you know tiny percent of the dye get
sorted out for or under person okay so your demo so another company did a demo
all cores running a 5 gigahertz I it was on a closed water loop so fairly
overclocked I'm I believe I have not gotten details on yet the demo you just
did air wilt air cool completely air cooled yeah we didn't see it in fact
this actually this Gordon I know how much you love coolers right last time I
talked to you we spent most the time talking about coolers right so yeah so
this is actually a specially designed cooler for thread Ripper it I guess
it'll work on in generation 1 or generation 2 but it's from Coolermaster
they're going to be selling it separately from the processor so it's an
option for people to buy but it's designed specifically for thread Ripper
it's air-cooled it's got some of course I care about this but it's got some
really cool RGB lighting sure so we don't have it plugged in right at the
moment but the RGB lighting on it is really neat you can control its etc but
yeah this is what we were using in the demo just regular old air coolie we
didn't want to use in our our demos what we what I what I always say to the team
is like I don't want to use any tricks in the demos we don't wanna we want them
to be straight-up what a user would see nothing special unless we unless we
specifically are trying to do an overclocking demo otherwise we want it
to be the real user experience you know kind of what you're getting yeah so it
does speak to what kind of actual performance we're gonna get out of it
because we're looking at actual you know end user because this is you're running
at air cold you don't have to do it heavily overclock so yeah you don't have
to heavily over it of course you can right it'll have overclock ability and
if you really you know some users in this segment love water coolers right so
they'll want to do their own liquid cooling actually my thread Ripper
first-generation system at home it's got liquid cooling right so but but we
wanted to have an air cooled option because actually this air cooler is
pretty good right and the performance it delivers is pretty good so we wanted
that option in the market as well okay and it's called thread rate raithra per
raithra per they get that from wraiths Ripper okay and just so you
know the the little white lines they can see here they actually light up I saw
one of the demo units the logo lights up and the lines light up around here so
those are jimmies so twelve heat pipe design um I would ask because the
reaction from the internet like for me I love high thread-count they serve always
been a dream of me I started you know to process systems and all that stuff the
reaction I got from some people was like what the hell do people need of course
we sort of got that reaction last year when you push out the red rope or
sixteen quarter but we got a great but that sixteen core is our most popular
version so we didn't just put it yeah we didn't just put a sixteen core out you
remember we put a 12 in an eight out too but by far the highest selling version
is the 16 core so everybody's buying the 16 core it's you know we sell some of
the eight and twelve as well but definitely most popular is 16 so there's
a need out there for more computing more performance I you know there are a lot
of you know like really high-end very heavy-duty content creation applications
that can take advantage of that number of threads and look if you're doing like
high-end video you know video creation or 3d modeling or 3d content creation or
you're doing audio mixing anything that's got a lot of highly parallel
threads that thread Ripper you know 32 cores gonna be able to chew that up
right and the other way to think about it is it's 32 physical cores right 16
core head you know 32 logical cores this is now 32 physical cores right and then
of course the extra multi-threaded so yeah I think it's I think people are
really gonna appreciate it I think there's gonna be a class and user that's
been looking for this sure sure and I agree cuz i and remember internet AMD
makes other chips to there's a great ships called the risin 727 if you don't
want this many cores you're perfectly happy by the way so this is I mean
honestly for those people who are building their own systems to being
content creators at home Dan here our Video Editor he you know he has like a
quad-core at home so like for him it would be great to get 32
to edit videos at home so there's definitely a real need right and in it
and is the messaging still sort of like you know working the day play at night
so this will also have the great you know rising master Tillet ease so you
can get great game performance out of it too so yeah absolutely so it'll work
with rise a master we will have a couple new features that will introduce and
rise a master specifically for this generation so we'll talk more about that
as we get closer to launch but you know look what we want is for any customer no
matter what your price point is or your usage model we want there to be a rise
and that fits you right so you know some folks are perfectly happy with an eight
core or a four core and somebody some people want to 32 core so we want
horizon for every budget every application okay uh and Jim's not gonna
answer this question I'm gonna ask it because I know you want to know how much
I I can't say right now but I will say soon as we get close to the launch right
so it's launching in q3 so we're not that far away right I will definitely
talk about the price so and it'll be we will definitely talk about the price
before we start selling it interesting so you know I think you're gonna ask me
about frequency - Oh frequency - yeah but we already talked about the still
and talk about clacks - I mean we've you know what's the know like because I mean
thread Ripper 16 court was really why I really sort of reset everything at that
high end because and the parts are down to eight hundred dollars after being on
the market for a while which is just such a super steel oh I agree I guess
people are hoping that this is gonna be that but I I it's hard for me to imagine
it'll be it feels like oh you won't say I can smell it feels like a
recommendation I'll always take the feedback it feels like it'll coexist
with lower core counterparts right because I I think so everybody like
you're right because with thread or upper one it was really 16 cores or
nothing from everybody because like why not it's like it's like a steal right
you're gonna give me two extra for another 50 bucks yeah nobody ever buys
the soda at the theater that is an extra large for that twenty four five twenty
five cents more right so same thing I kind of wondering of 32 will be the only
thing that everybody nobody won't care about this yeah we'll
see I my guess is that the 16 core is still gonna be popular right that our 16
core version of thread Ripper will still be popular we'll see though maybe
everybody migrates up to the 32 core so so just wondering so with 2700 you know
the second gen of the lower core comp parts yeah they pretty much replace all
of the first-generation parts are we going to see the same thing with third
Ripper are they gonna coexist well actually on 2nd June the rise in
desktop processors we didn't completely replace actually we're what we said is
we'll replace some of the screws some of the versions but some of the
first generation will continue on because they're actually pretty popular
people are very happy with them so the generation to generation one will
coexist for a while I think you can expect the same with thread refer for
both generations to coexist okay yeah I do want to know where do you go from
here because now I sort of thought AMD broke
everything all the rules with 16 core and now 32 cores is like we're mean what
are we are we gonna be sitting here at Computex 2019 with the 64 core count
thread wrapper I don't know we're gonna have to come up with something for copy
- yes all right so not like we've got a lot of good technology in the pipeline
I'm really happy about our roadmap when I look at the next actually we've got
our roadmap mapped out through 2022 and beyond and when I look at that roadmap I
mean I can't wait to get those products right I can't wait to upgrade my system
with those with what's on the roadmap so it's exciting and we'll have some good
stuff next year other questions what do you think the reaction was
because I I think really everybody did expect that the 24 core part part which
he did show off today as well yes do you want to guess speculate what your
competitors down the road we're thinking as they watch the livestream today or
because I mean really I don't know I don't know what they were thinking
I don't know I know that we brony face emoji for any face I know that we yeah
anyway I won't specular he's been night uh and of course I do you know what I'll
say though is I think if you step back from an industry perspective or from
just a pure end-user perspective right because I always tell my team
hey let's always always think about let's start with the customer right and
if we think about the customer look and be back in the market competing and
driving new products that is good for everybody right and I think you know
reisen's been in the market just a little over a year and the amount of
impact it's had in the industry is I think pretty phenomenal for a product
line that's only been in the market for a little over a year right and I think
again I think it's AMD has this great history if you go far enough back in its
history great history of driving new innovations to market first 64-bit x86
right first dual core to market first to break at the gig barriers so a lot of
Industry first I think AMD's back to that now right back to its
heritage of pushing the industry pushing innovation and that is good for
everybody but the ultimately who benefits the most is the end customer ok
and the last question I'm just gonna ask because actually I may have another
question have this but Z 490 rumors no comment no comment so didn't everything
exists folks it didn't even exist I'm just kidding and I'm gonna point out the
t-shirt actually that's actually the very last thing I want to talk about
sorry I didn't mean to but check this out though so Jim is modeling for us the
second generation first Liza never been called a model he's more in Genesis my
brother-in-law is actually a model but you know it's the heavy metal theme for
thread Ripper because you know 32 cores that is handle and I just want to show
this off because we will be giving this away a special edition so this red
Ripper limited edition second gen rise and thread Ripper create with heavy
metal right and it's got our tour tour calendar on the back
at the concert tour and of course this is the cool thing folks we're gonna
giving this away check this out oh hey there really is a tour no I was serious
about your bus like this no these are these are real dates these are events no
if you check it out it's got sig graph on here PAX West etc so these are CES
Las Vegas so this is the real set of upcoming events we're talking more about
the president it really is like any I will say a Computex
seat Computex taipei it was like a rock star event downstairs and these had the
new party were mobbed on the stage and we got them to sign because this shirt
they actually signed Lisa sue here and Jim sign he didn't put his full
signature he was afraid you were gonna Forge it and put it on check so no not
on there but we will be giving this away and a future podcast but this is just
like this is like you guys really I gotta say you really brought the house
down today I mean it's like really it was like it was like being in a Led
Zeppelin concert and like in going into the Encore and just like you're going to
like put a cape over yourself and go off at the stage I love it so cool
thank you good thanks thanks folks and expect full coverage of the brand-new 32
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