WINFREY: We're talking today with Harvard University
psychiatrist John Mack,
who studied the cases of about 100 people, at least,
who claim that they've been abducted by aliens.
One of Dr. Mack's patients, Randy, here says his
abduction occurred while he was awake.
He is here with his sister, Glynda, who says she, too,
has been adu--abducted since childhood.
Since what age? Do you remember?
GLYNDA: Five.
WINFREY: Five years old.
And at five years old, what happened?
Some of what Dr. Mack was described earlier here?
GLYNDA: Right.
I had a conscious--conscious--I consciously
remembered my experience when I was five.
WINFREY: Mm-hmm.
GLYNDA: And--but I had bits of it that were missing.
And what I--what I remember
is that through my wall came some beings around my bed.
And I ran between them and ran out of the
room into my mother's room to hide from them.
And what happened is they followed me in there.
And that's the last I remember of it.
However, it's interesting because after that,
I never told anybody about that.
And I just buried it in--in--in the back of my mind.
And me and my brother, we never
even spoke about it until the last few years.
WINFREY: Why? Randy?
RANDY: I first told my mom and dad when something
--when I was 10 years old, something happened.
And I told my mom and dad.
WINFREY: Do you remember when he told you?
You're Randy's mom.
Randy's Mother: Yes.
WINFREY: What did he tell you?
Stand up, please.
Randy's Mother: Well, back about a co--a couple years ago...
WINFREY: Uh-huh.
Randy's Mother: ...my daughter was living at a
distance away from home.
And she had picked up the book "Communion."
WINFREY: Uh-huh.
Randy's Mother: And she said she was--it disturbed her.
So I tried to get a connection.
WINFREY: Which daughter? Glynda?
Randy's Mother: Glyndie.
WINFREY: Mm-hmm.
GLYNDA: Yeah. Couldn't sleep at night.
Randy's Mother: So I read the book.
And my son happened to wa--ral--walk in for dinner.
And my husband and I were there.
And I said, `Jeez, this is so stirring.'
And he said,
`Well, don't you remember when I was 10 years old?'
And it was like it was put way in the back of our mind.
And we both said, `Oh, yeah.' I remember him coming up to our room and...
WINFREY: And saying?
Randy's Mother: ...and saying there was a spaceship
outside and there were little guys around his bed.
Randy's Mother: And they put the dog to sleep.
Which sounds bizarre. Now...
WINFREY: A little more than bizarre. Yeah.
Randy's Mother: Oh, it does.
WINFREY: Very. Yeah.
Randy's Mother: But--but--so my husband went outside...
WINFREY: So when he told you at 10, you said,
`Yeah, right, honey.'
Randy's Mother: No.
My husband went outside thinking it was probably an intruder.
I settled--there wasn't an intruder, so we found.
I settled him down for sleep and we never thought
another thing about it until...
WINFREY: There was or was not an intruder?
I didn't hear you sa...
Randy's Mother: There was not.
WINFREY: Was not an intruder.
Randy's Mother: Not that we were aware of.
WINFREY: So you told him that...
Randy's Mother: So I'm sure I...
WINFREY: ...it was his imagination?
Randy's Mother: I don't even remember telling him that.
RANDY: No.
WINFREY: What do you remember, Randy?
RANDY: She--that was--that's pretty much it.
But, I mean, I ran up to their room completely terrified.
Because they--they had put me out for a little over an hour,
and when I came to--you know, I ran--first thing was
I didn't know if I was going to get upstairs where my mom
and dad's room were--was.
I mean, it was that kind of fear. And--and--yeah.
This is--I have a hard time with this.
WINFREY: Why?
RANDY: Because I don't want to believe it. I really don't.
WINFREY: Why? Because I'm thinking I wouldn't
mind it happening to me.
RANDY: Yeah. That's what everybody says.
GLYNDA: Well, it hasn't happened to you.
If it happened to you, you'd feel different.
RANDY: That's what everybody says.
But it--I mean, it's totally made me question what life's about.
And it--it--it stirred my life up a lot.
And...
WINFREY: So when it happened at 10,
you always believed profoundly...
RANDY: No. I hoped there was--I hoped there
was something wrong.
And I had a lot of--I went through a lot of testing
and things to find out whether something was wrong.
WINFREY: So that was the first time it happened--times again.
Yeah?
RANDY: Yeah.
GLYNDA: They didn't find anything wrong.
WINFREY: Yeah.
RANDY: Mm-hmm.
WINFREY: And so...
RANDY: And then it was 1990 when they came again.
And I was probably conscious for five seconds before they put me out.
WINFREY: So you were awake?
RANDY: Yeah.
WINFREY: And what happened?
RANDY: They--they came in. I don't know where they came from.
I mean, they were there so fast.
WINFREY: Where were you?
RANDY: I was just laying down on my bed.
I just--just come down to my bedroom. I had just laid down
and it was instantaneous.
They were just there. And--wow. It--I--I just went into shock.
I thought I was going to die.
My--my life flashed before my eyes.
And I just--I remembered all the times that they had been there
before to--to get me.
And--and then they put me out. And I just remember bits
and pieces of what occurred after that point, very fragmented.
But what blows my mind is meeting other people that it's happened to.
That's what blows my mind. Because I talk to them and they know
what I'm talking about.
They--they've--they can--they're describing the same things.
And it just blows my mind.
I mean, how--I mean, I--I wish this was not happening.
But I am getting so much--What do you call it?
--evidence from-- just from talking to other people that this
is not un--this is not uncommon, and this is...
WINFREY: I know. But still all of us watching and hearing you now...
RANDY: I know. I--I...
WINFREY: ...are thinking--but where is the proof?
RANDY: I wish I had it.
GLYNDA: Right. Well, the on...
WINFREY: It's just you saying it.
Why don't--if it happens--it happens all the time.
Dr. Mack will, you know, challenge this if--when we come back,
why not take a picture of them? Why not bring...
GLYNDA: We have.
RANDY: I've--I've done--I've tried.
I'm pretty good with electronics and I tried with cameras,
motion-censored cameras, video cameras.
GLYNDA: Trip wires.
RANDY: Everything.