Gordon what's in this box hey this is what people have been
waiting for they've been holding off from their gaming laptop purchases yes
is well some people have who follow the news a few weeks ago at CES Nvidia of
course released its r-tx for laptops this is probably one of the most
impressive laptops there were plenty of really great laptops at sea yes but this
one really was impressive because of what ms I did
well let's unbox it this is the GS 75 me follow up to the GS 65 decently small
brick but this is what is amazing here a 17 inch gaming laptop weighs less than 5
pounds 19 inch I love myself a 17 inch laptop so still get those nice gold it's
a big version of the GS 65 which was impressive because it was so lightweight
also I want to point out again they have beefed up the chassis the original GS 65
introduced they did fix it later on was a little flexible scary flexible they
actually later on beefed it up this is not look again holding it by one corner
but this has of course GeForce r-tx in it but five pounds let's find out just
for comparison previous generation origin razor blade 15 GTX max 1070 max-q
and previous version Origin PC yuhh Eon 17s is actually a slim 17 inch
laptop actually pretty impressive for what it is and not too bad but look at
this right this is the body of the the EON 17s very slim laptop there are a lot
of seventeen ages opposite are just a lot bigger the
thing is just super thin but it's compared to the razor blade 15 inch
laptop it's pretty thin but I think the thing that you know
people get into their thin contest what really matters is the weight razor blade
15 we're gonna weigh it right here four pounds nine ounces let's call it
all right rounding up Origin PC and let's be fair they both origin and razor
also have our Tech's laptops coming but six pounds 12 ounces that's you know
it's pretty close to seven pounds decent for 17 inch laptop let's see if
they can really hit sub 5 pounds as they claim thing yeah I mean right under
pounds 14 ounces and that is the amazing thing because you are getting let's find
out what's in there I don't know what we got in this configuration I'm gonna turn
it on hopefully batteries got a charge it does what about the power bricks - I
want to bring up the power brand we'll see how these compare you're not gonna
take these kind of laptops without actual bricks so here is the standard
Delta 230 that is with the origin and I believe this one is 180 or 230 let's see
230 so they have a slim down this is a ciccone this is a delta okay definitely
a little bit smaller I know how much does that weigh
oh yeah let's do without the cable all right
this is the pretty much Delta one pound nine ounces let's call it 1 pound 10
ounces actually slightly heavier could be the cables a little bit thicker maybe
yeah I would say you're not really getting a weight signals from the power
brick of course here's a razor which you know is a pretty cool razor 230 watts
and it's one miles away this - they have a pretty beefy cable on here long cable
yeah and you get the rubber leash on there it's actually the lightest the
razor is actually the lightest okay I just have this proprietary connector on
there but you know brick some to keep in mind it's not bad it's not bad enough it
is that razor braid so what about configuration wait why does it say
GeForce GTX yeah that's funny you got the wrong wall I'm at the wrong
wallpaper over there so this is an RT X 2080 max Q uh
which I want to again let people know if you see basically a thin and light
laptop like this it's gonna have max Q a lot of the vendors are not calling it
out as Max Q I'm not sure what's going on there but there's a difference in
performance between Max Q and non max Q there is some people saying and videos
telling people to just sort of like not call that out I don't know
dang well five pound seven inch screen twenty eighty we're gonna do a couple
quick performance watch just to give you an idea how fast it is I don't have the
final price ship but I'm gonna ask for it before this video is over alright
we're back and you did a little more testing than than we thought you'd a
little bit more than a lot of time I had but we wanted to come into the studio
here because that allows us to kind of show a little bit more of the benchmarks
and the deeper stuff that your for doing so why don't we dig right into
it so okay because this is a laptop you cannot separate the CPU from it we are
gonna look at the laptop as well it's not that you're paying for the CPU miles
we'll find out how it performs good news GS 75 does great
first up Cinebench r15 of course multi-threaded benchmark right where you
think it'd be basically in line with most of the other i7 parts that we've
seen the 8750 HS 6 cores fantastic CPU pretty much right there only i9s can be
faster or Rison 7 so it's a great chip next result handbrake again this is a
test to see if the the CPU has thermal issues when you heat it up no surprise
GS 75 stealth that's fantastic it's about a 30-minute in code and it's a
little bit faster than a lot of the other 8750 HTS have you seen so but not
not a not a huge difference basically CPUs everything you expect of Emma sighs
you know just 65 GS 75 line great great part right awesome last metric II do
need to know it is a laptop how it runs on battery you're gonna want to know
82 watt hour battery 6 core 8th gen CPU r-tx 2080 max Q still very decent
battery life there's no G sync which would force the GPU on most of the time
so you're getting damn near six and a half to seven hours of battery life out
of it I think ace use claims a little bit more I think they said eight hours
of CES but the fact we're seeing near 7 hours we're running at a fairly bright
screen setting about 250 to 260 nits we do it in airplane mode and we just loop
a 4k movie with earbuds in till it dies and no that's very decent yeah I suppose
that basically runs with all of the 15 inch gaming laptops with big batteries
the Aero 15 has been fantastic for battery life
Wow this is right there with the Aero 15s all of the other 17 inch laptops
that we've seen you know electricity leaked to the Zephyrus or thoughts of 15
but like the evo 17s alien or 17 the predator they are generally sub 3 hour
battery life because they have g-sync they're big
they don't just add or you sue well that's not parts and some of them yeah
so the fact that you can really get usable battery life out of the GS 75
that is you that's a good deal knock that what you want to know by Adam I bet
is gaming gaming graphics we're gonna kick it off first one is rise of the
Tomb Raider we run out of very high settings dx11 mode because when we
started using it we ran takes 11 digs 12 was pretty iffy on drivers pretty ofin
if he even on the game it's been patched many many times since then
dicks 11 gives you probably a more stable view of it and you're seeing that
r-tx 2080 max Q and he s 75 top here it's actually smokes an impressively
faster Wow then most of the you know 1070 full-tilt 10 70s which are not fast
not there they're not slow parts those Full Tilt's in 70s it's actually
slightly faster definitely faster than the GX 501 with its 1080 max Q and
interestingly slightly definitely faster slightly meaning 10 to 15% faster than
the Alienware 17 are for older part but Full Tilt 1080 so very good good showing
you know well in yes 11 this is without retracing correct this is without rate
tracing of course another non rate racing test just to give you a hint
middle-earth shadows mortar we run this at Ultra settings 4k textures and 1080p
now we're gonna see the Alienware with its higher clock part and full tilt 1080
slightly edged the 2080 the max Q but definitely the the 2080 max Q is faster
than the other laptop so we're compare it to you all the 10 70s the Vega 56
that 1070 m excuse but again one of the problems with using games to judge I'm
not saying there's anything wrong with using games judge and a desktop where
you can pull it out and the CPU doesn't change the rapid change you're getting
different thermal solutions you're getting different CPUs and all these lap
house there's a big difference in all of them it's a little tough to isolate it
so I also like to look at a lot of synthetic benchmarks first up 3d mark
fires right specifically just the graphics benchmark this calls out the
CPU performance and is like 99% what you're gonna see from the laptop maybe
not 98% where you can see out of the
graphics part in this and again this is actually very similar to what we saw The
Full Tilt 1080 higher clocks in a thicker laptop definitely a little bit
faster than the 20 80 max q10 80s and big fat laptops are pretty fast parts
though but against the max Q and the in these FRS the 1080 max Q part the 20 80
is definitely faster and of course you just gets the other laptops get slow in
there you're not seeing this huge Delta you might expect in fire strike and I
think part of that is fire strike is a pretty old test it doesn't really do a
lot so we also ran a 3d mark time spy graphics again we're looking only at the
graphic subscore not the overall score which factors in the CPU a little bit
time spy just there's just more tessellation there's there's more shader
tests there's just a ton more like 5 and 10 times you're tending on the test once
we do that we actually see the our checks 20 80 max Q come up on top very
decent performance increase over that even that Full Tilt 1080 part when
you're looking at the 1080 max Q part in the Zephyrus you're looking at 15% and
then you get down to 1070 1070 max Q it's just like against the max 1070 max
you're looking at 45% more performance I think it's like about 70% over that 1080
max Q so that's not a bad showing over previous Cherisher parts of course RT x
wasn't really a huge jump over previous parts right and desktop is really 10 8
10 80 was about the speed of a 20 70 sort of kind of sort of so not a bad
showing of course what you want to know is rate racing performance that's where
it gets a little squiffy so I ran 3dmark portroyal on the GS 75 with the arc TX
20 80 max Q and then I went and I grabbed some numbers PC Gamer did some
testing when portroyal first came out the test is only a rate racing benchmark
and you look at this chart it's a it makes you a little uneasy I
actually expected because max-q you give up those clock speeds to get into a thin
light laptop it's actually closer to a 2060 than it is to a 2070 huh right so
that's gonna be that's gonna make people a little uneasy and remember the only
real difference between a desktop twenty eighty and a and a twenty eighty max Q
part where a normal mom max Q part is clock speed and power it's got the same
memory bandwidth it's got the same memory interface it's got the same
amount of memory same type of memory same amount of CUDA cores well it's just
simply you giving up those clock speeds to get into a stupidly light int and
laptop I mean that's that's thin right but still that's that makes you a little
uneasy and to give you an idea to in gaming I couldn't get Tomb Raider
shadows are the Tomb Raider to run which does have some ray tracing support in it
because the game can be a little flaky I can get that to run but I did run
battlefield 5 and ran at 1080p I turned I turn it to 1080p ultra and I said
Archie X the rate or direct are X DX are two ultra sitting DX are off 90 frames a
second 1080p right I saw with my own eyes so with your own early a come over
bracelets great stuff yeah go in turn off reboot the game go back to the same
spot in the game look at the same reflection 45 frames a second so from 90
to 45 RTX off to on yeah so that is gonna it makes you like
ooh that is kind of like doubt to be fair
Nvidia can tune drivers EA can tune battlefield 5 this is not the end there
I mean we don't know right what the end is this is sort of like the beginning of
one battlefield 5 came out with the rhetorician support and they and Jackson
definitely performance was not a great I gotta say 45 frames a second isn't bad I
would definitely not run it at DXR Ultra I
and watches I like 60 frames a second but you are paying for RTX 2080 max-q
laptop and you're looking at 45 frames a second you don't have g-sync on this
particular laptop that's a little painful it's a little painful and it's
gonna make I you know the controversy over rate tracing the controversy over
RT X is not going to go away people are still gonna be uneasy about it we'll see
we'll see this is it's gonna keep changing as games come out as drivers
get better but the last thing I do want to leave you for true believers true
green believers is the last one this is 3dmark portroyal one point out graphics
the same thing I just ran you see the four thousand one hundred and forty six
I got out of the GS seventy five stealth and then you see the performance of all
of the other laptops the Alienware rogues efforts all of those GT X 1080
1070 1070 max Q tenths 1080 max q10 they're all zero including at RX Vega 56
because portrayal does not run there's no hybrid rate racing support
and that's kind of the key messaging on on ray tracing is if you believe there
is a future and ray tracing you're gonna want one of these laptops price and well
I promised I would get you the price I did get the price for the end of the
video with core i7 8750 H with 1080p 144 Hertz with 512 gig p.m. not 851 951 SSD
with GT RT X 20 and 80 max Q and 32 gigs of ram 3000 bucks
three thousand dollars five pounds okay you know of course people who go oh my
god three thousand dollars well you know 1080 laptops very similar pricing they
were not cheap once you got when the original 1080 laptops were not cheap
1080 max hue laptops are not cheap you're you're getting all the bells and
whistles Evans laptop you are getting a five pam laptop that again we just
showed you in conventional gaming clearly faster than 1080 Full Tilt and
some things something slightly slower than 1080 Full Tilt but you are looking
at five pound left and for comparison I brought out that
old-fashioned laptop it's how things used to be that's how it was just right
four years ago dang right five years ago this was a gaming laptop five years ago
yeah now this is and this is what you now get the performance of this is
stupendous compared to that in CPU SSD screen and graphics card is a big
difference again remember this story is not over
we are going to continue to see results we're gonna come to you for letting us
more updates but I will say GS 75 because this is
about the laptop you do not buy the GPU without the laptop fantastic laptop
mmm-hmm right great runtime awesome gaming performance 17 inch screen for
people with bad vision like me which is a huge deal 15 inch panels really don't
work for us old timers great see people from all around and five pounds it is
incredible to get this performance both CPU screen and GPU and five pounds it's
be so it's amazing we'll see though if you're looking for
definitive r-tx it's not over wait this story's gonna keep going well
again thank you for all the deep testing you do that's one of the things our fans
like so I appreciate it thank you so much cool and stay tuned for more laptop
r-tx testing because they're coming in it will have you have to need to come in
yeah we'll see you later