Elon Musk wants Tesla workers who can work from home to get their asses back
to the mines because he thinks that if you are working from home,
you are unproductive, you're lazy and you lay around doing nothing all day.
Even though there's a lot of data proving him wrong on that.
But nonetheless, apparently, an email he had sent was leaked to the press and
in the email, he says this to his employees.
Anyone who wishes to do remote work must be in the office for
a minimum and I mean minimum of 40 hours per week or depart Tesla.
This is less than we ask of factory workers.
Which by the way, let's just pause.
Let's pause all ready.
If you're asking factory workers to work more than 40 hours a week in the factory,
that sounds like a problem that you have created within your company.
But nonetheless, let me continue.
If there are particularly exceptional contributions for whom this is impossible.
I will review and approve those exceptions directly, moreover, the office
must be a main Tesla office, not a remote branch office unrelated to job duties.
For example, being responsible for fremont factory human relations, but
having your office be in another state.
Thanks Elon.
Okay, so, before I get some more details about this story, I do get it, right?
Overzealous employers want to monitor every single move that their
employees make, they wanna make their employees incredibly miserable.
One of the reasons why some people actually thrived mentally
during the pandemic.
The people who were lucky enough to work from home,
was because they were able to work from home and feel free while doing their jobs.
In fact, their studies proving that most people who were able to work remotely,
we're able to work from home actually ended up working more because
it was really difficult for them to know when to stop working.
When your day ends in the office, you drive home, you cook a meal,
you watch netflix, the night's over.
But if you're working from home, and I experienced this,
you kinda don't wanna stop working, you're all ready there right.
Now, go ahead.
>> Now, I think this is a super interesting story and
we're gonna do a poll on it and I think it has nuance.
Because I like that he's saying it to white collar workers, if he was just
saying to blue collar workers, you guys bring your ass into the factories, but
the executives can sit at home and do nothing, that would be way worse, right?
He's worried that the executives are sitting around doing nothing,
which you don't often see in corporate America.
I don't get the sense that he's specifically referring to executives.
>> Right, but white collar, I got you.
>> Okay people who work from home, yes.
That's true, right?
And I think that it might depend on the job, the person and
the circumstance, but at least he's not punching that far down.
You see what I'm saying.
>> At this moment, yes, with this particular story, sure.
>> Yeah. >> I guess.
>> Okay, I mean, look, I think first of all, it depends on the job, right.
>> CEO not punching down, okay at his workers
who aren't blue collar but are also are not the ceo.
Yeah, no, I get it.
That's what I said, he's not punching down that much, [LAUGH] okay.
>> Yeah. >> And so, look, it depends on the job.
So here the hosts have to show up because this is the studio we've doi ng Covid for
a little while.
Yes, we can do home studio, but it's much better to do it here.
Stage for us to show up, it is what it is right now, right.
Now, in our case, we found out through Covid that our editors don't necessarily
have to be in the office.
They're doing a great job editing from home.
So, problem solved, right?
So I don't feel the need so you better come in.
Because part of the idea is, we got to watch over you,
otherwise everybody's lazy.
>> Yeah, it's just the assumption that your own employees are garbage,
lazy human beings and you have to like lord over them all the time and
monitor everything they're doing.
Do you guys understand like it starts with a pretty
terrible assumption about the people you've hired.
>> Yeah, and by the way, that's why I started my own company because I can't
stand people looking over my shoulder.
And you are, are you working?
Are you working?
>> Right, yeah, I'm working.
Let me give you my work product and then see if you like the work product.
>> Totally, yep.
>> And so that's how our basically a rule here.
Yes, you gotta put in a certain amount of hours if you have a job that's dependent
on the physically being here etc.
But at the end of the day the number one thing is, did you do your job or
didn't you, right?
And so I honestly don't know why anyone cares like in Elon musk's position.
If you give me a great work product, let's say it's a deck, or
it's a video, why do I care if you did it here or in Timbuktu?
So, look, this email of his sparked an intense online debate.
One person on twitter wrote, hey Elon,
a lot of people are talking about this leaked email,
Any additional comment to people who think coming into work is an antiquated concept.
And get a look like again,
it's the assumption, they should pretend to work somewhere else.
Well, okay, Elon, did you hire people who don't really need to provide a product for
you and can get away with pretending to work?
>> Then why don't you fire them?
I'm being serious.
If they're white collar, their executives and you think there you again ask them to
do, let's pick a random thing on marketing presentation and they didn't give you one.
Well, they didn't do their job, go ahead and fire them, it's okay, I get it, right.
But what do you weirdly crying about it?
>> Okay. >> Okay, it depends on the job.
Some jobs have to be at the office something,
by the way, he's not completely wrong like he says about human resources.
Well, if you're a human resource at a certain factory,
you gotta show up at that factory, I think that's true.
>> Yeah. >> Because people might need to come
in and complain about something that's happening on the factory floor or
needs some assistance, etc.
So it depends.
>> Okay, so now let me throw a few monkey wrenches into your argument because
this is the thing that really kind of enrages me actually.
So, I hear you about blue collar workers and
we should have a functioning government that actually considers the difficulties
people have in being able to just go to work in the first place, right?
People who are able to work remotely have
a benefit in that they don't necessarily have to look for childcare.
They can still get their jobs done without essentially being
screwed over by not being able to afford child care so there's that.
I don't know if anyone else noticed, but gas is really, really expensive right now.
So commuting to work when you don't necessarily need to commute to work,
you can work from home makes no sense to me, it makes no sense.
You know what I'm saying, like, and I get it.
I mean, if you have to be in the office, you have to be in the warehouse,
you have to be in the factory, I get it, certain jobs require that.
But if you can help some of your employees out at in a difficult time in our economy
when inflation is through the roof, why wouldn't you do that?
Now, of course, for someone like Elon Musk, it doesn't matter because he's so
fabulously wealthy that he's completely untouched by all of these economic issues
that hurt most workers, whether they be blue collar or white collar.
>> Yeah. >> But that's that's the reality of
the situation, chalking it all up to [LAUGH] they're lazy,
I think completely dismisses, again, the very real economic concerns that people
have with having to go into the office when they don't really need to.
>> Yeah, he's making another mistake to, which is,
assuming that everyone has the same incentives as he does.
He's like, I don't get it, why don't you just work 24 hours a day like I do?
Well, but they don't own the company.
>> Because not everyone wants to live to work because people wanna live,
they want to have a life outside of being in your freaking factory or
your workplace, that's why.
>> If you've given them the proper incentives, then they'll wanna work more
than 40 hours, especially if they're white collar, right?
And I appreciate that, I love that, I love hard work, right?
If people work more than 40 hours, I love it, that's great, and
given the proper incentives to do it and they'll deliver for you.
But if you say, hey, I keep the $250 billion, you don't get that much.
And now I want you to work more than 40 hours and I want you to drive and
I want you to pay the gas prices and
I want you to go to work even if it doesn't make any sense into the office.
So, but I'm curious what you guys think too about all this, the pole we're asking
tyt.com slash polls every time is, would you rather work from home or the office?
And the answer is a remote office hybrid.
Do you think everybody's gonna say remote?
I don't know that everybody's gonna say remote.
I think a lot of people like to work in the office.
>> I think there are weirdos like John out there who want to everyone to be in
the office because he's a sadist.
>> [LAUGH] >> I don't know, he's a weirdo,
I can't stand it.
I personally can't understand why people who don't need to be in the office
wanna be in the office.
I think you're weird, what's wrong with your home life?
Go back home.
>> No, you're crazy that you're making the same mistake as Elon is,
in the sense of like assuming everybody thinks like you.
Other people are a little bit more social than you Casper.
[LAUGH] Okay, so, yeah.
>> Don't be social with your co workers.
>> [LAUGH] I get a sense of where Anna stands,
>> Some of them are okay.
Everybody's got a bias.