Hi, everybody.
Today we have Lauren Zoll in our studio.
So we're very lucky to have an artist here with us
to discuss the Off highlights.
Lauren, what did you think?
Incredible.
They weren't off.
They were on.
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So Lauren and I talked a while about how
we were going to discuss these highlights,
because a lot of them are so great that you should really
go to our blog or our Tumblr and look at all of them
and see them, because some of them
aren't necessarily that interesting to discuss.
But they're just wonderful to look at.
So Lauren, what is the first thing that stands out
to you about these submissions?
So I guess in my work, I'll focus on the screen.
And I'll zoom in onto the screen and not
make an issue of where it is, because it's usually
in my studio.
I've gone out in the field sometimes.
But in these here, they really express where that person is.
So, for example, "Musings of Maura,"
she shows us multiple perspectives.
And this is my favorite part of it.
So they have this screen-- shows one space
and suggests a gaze or a frame to look at.
But there's an interjection of a whole other context or space.
We see three perspectives almost.
Right.
It's not a flat image.
It's creating this three dimensional
space in a 2D image.
Yeah, so in the round.
And that's one of the first things you learn about
in a sculpture class is how can we go in the round
and not have a frontal view.
Or it shouldn't have a back to it,
but that we can see multiple things happening at once.
So one thing I thought was really
interesting with these images was
that it would be a scene reflecting
a really boring space, like an intensely boring space
with beige walls.
But the image, itself, was fascinating.
It was like this contrast between a super boring space,
but then what would happen when they'd actually
try to do this assignment, they'd
find some really interesting views.
Yeah.
I mean, suddenly seeing your ceiling is fascinating,
because that's the reality you're in.
So we're getting all of these extra contexts.
One of the great things that happened with this assignment
is that some people, a lot of people actually,
expressed surprise at what they discovered when they actually
tried to do it.
They thought something would be interesting.
And then they tried it, and it wasn't.
But then they tried something else
that was maybe a reflection of their ceiling,
and all of a sudden it was something interesting.
The idea of taking a photo of a blank screen
is fascinating to them.
And then there's other people who
think, why am I going to take another image
of the exact same image?
And I think both of those people decided-- I mean,
it's not about the duplicity of image.
But it's about the vision and the perspective it evokes.
So one of the images that Lauren and I both responded to
was this one by Anyweibs.
What did you like about this one?
I liked how this person decided that they're
going to show us where they are by this other way of showing
us.
And therefore, it kind of gives this emotional feeling,
or this response, to the work where
it's so different than if they were
to take a photo of what the North Sea photo is showing us.
With a lot of these, where someone is sight seeing
and I'm looking at them, at their hand,
holding a screen reflecting what's behind them,
I feel like I'm there.
I almost feel like I'm inhabiting their body in a way
that I don't feel with just a straight photograph.
It's like the action of seeing or the phenomenon of seeing.
When you look at photographs, it has the potential
to replace your memory of it.
So your memory comes in the photo.
And this is kind of a reversal.
Or it actually is activating your thinking.
So it's asking you to think about the future, instead
of the past, about the total rounds, the total space.
What's happening in front of you
and behind you and to your sides.
Yeah.
And some of the imagees-- they're
kind of offering us this night during the day.
Yeah.
It reminded me of the filming technique, day for night,
where you're able to achieve the nighttime effect during the day
through lighting tricks.
What a lot of people did in their work
is they found simplicity.
When they show light or color, it's really formal.
So you have a formal shape that's full of color.
And I think that's what they're showing
and that's why we're finding them radically beautiful.
Yeah.
It was interesting to see what minor amount of detail
to make for a successful image.
Whether it was just dust and scratches or fingerprints
or one blurry colorful blob on the side,
it was interesting to see when the screen actually
became something productive.
What I've been realizing is that it's not necessarily about
reflections at all.
But it's about the mystery in seeing,
or in the phenomenon of seeing, because you
could see one thing one day.
And the next, you'll see it in a completely different way.
And I think that this assignment is an articulation of that.
How do you see?
What does it look like when you see?
I
Can't say it better than that.
Thanks for coming, Lauren,
Thank you.
And thank you for making such great responses
to this assignment.
Fantastic.
Continue.
Continue doing it, and posting your responses
with hashtag theartassignment.
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