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be discussing all of the questions that
came up from my video about Quakerism
and my religion and my religious beliefs
if you haven't seen that video already
it is down below in the description
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you watch this because then you'll have
a basis of understanding other things
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right to veganism so what I'm holding is
quakin faith Quaker faith and practice
which is not our version of the Bible
but is its kind of ways to live your
life as a Quaker but it's all written by
Quakers and it's a constantly evolving
book so as different people different
times happen and come along and change
with the times
we're buying new things in the book and
we take away all things stuff that no
longer applies to modern people because
that's not a thing and you know so
veganism and vegetarianism gonna read
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okay right back to veganism so I'm just
gonna reading the section 25 point out
for all species and the ad itself has
independent into the pending
rather than creation humankind is not
these species to whom all others
subservient but one above minute
among many cannot reach this for me
today go and then further down it's
right that we should show love and
compassion to people surely it is right
that we should spend our love and
compassion to animals who can feel fair
an experience pain in much the same way
as humans they may not be able to speak
but we can certainly see fear in their
eyes and demeanor I feel that being
vegetarian is a natural progression from
being a pacifist and a Quaker now this
is the new point of many many Quakers
I've grown up with a lot of Quakers we
came to Quaker events and I'd say you
know a good more than 50% of people were
vegetarian or vegan I feel like veganism
has is more of a recent thing I think
when I was a child it was much rarer to
have beacons that feels like the case I
think in everything not sure I hope you
just wanted my hair if you can just
imagine anyway actually I think it's
because there weren't enough good
protein alternatives um where is now
with more modern food there personally
I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian but
Manson Hodge nificant it would not be
possible for me to be one with the diet
that I have um I can't because of my
disability or medical condition the
things I eat are very restricted and I
can't eat another kind of grains pulses
beans I'm Fletcher reduce my soy but I
love soy milk and soy yogurt so I do try
and make changes where possible so I can
tell the story of it honestly milk and
and trying had scientists in that way
and always have soy protein powder so
sometimes I will just use that with my
protein in a meal rather than eating an
animal but I do try and always get my
meat from
good sustainable sources where possible
and organic and free-range got to
anything and try and do my bits over the
world it's quite unfortunate I do think
is that you get into that whole argument
that's a whole video actually disability
and and inmate and environmental guilt
yeah that's it that's the whole thing
but yes many Quakers do believe that
being vegan and vegetarian is just the
right thing to do based on ideas of
pacifism and sustainability that was a
long answer I'm sorry that's okay
really not the next question is gonna be
from a super Chad from Cass ah ha CA
said Cass yes Cass Avery I'm so sorry if
I'm butchering your name but yes mrs.
Exodus she said Mr Ramage don't have a
deaf girl and she wants to know if you
wedded the Quaker yeah so you think
you'd want to participate in another
religion or religious practice oh that's
a really good question and I connect
together sorry it's necessary this is
just excellent it's amazing can you guys
hear Clara by the way because when you
repeat questions I'm not sure whether I
should repeat it I'm pretty sure I shall
do okay so the question was would I be
part of another religion if not Frank
reason if I didn't know that makers and
that's a really good question um that's
really difficult to say because I've
grown up a Quaker I I think I would
still believe in the innate goodness of
all people so I feel like I would
struggle with any
religion that would that puts people is
not being equal so maybe I could get
into Buddhism maybe I'm not sure maybe I
just be one of those people who says it
is spiritual because they're looking for
their religion it's probably not a very
good answer but I think that's the only
answer I can give
well next one from a super chat as well
I might just slow down with the poppers
because I don't have the menu the KC
Lake wants to know with bad language
it's not allowed what is your personal
choice
oh okay so things like swearing and
whatnot um well Quakers are encouraged
not to use language that could upset or
offend somebody because it's not our
place to do that
so obviously is that I think I just as a
child I found swearing I didn't like it
when people swore around me so I just
decided to not do it and now I'm over I
still have people around me who swear
and I don't judge them for it it's
backing now it's definitely more of a
personal preference than it is from
Quakerism because I can see obviously
that if my friends are swearing and
they're having conversation neither of
them are injuring each other with that
language um I just yeah I just choose
not to
I find it doesn't work for me it's not
something that sits well with me
personally coming from my mouth but I'm
okay with it coming from other people's
mouths
there you can next question would you
like to jump into ethical debate size
variation or one one on being a Quaker
oh my questions okay I mean that is more
ethical debate such as abortion or
sexuality sure we
we could go straight to abortion why not
let me get to my section okay there's a
section for everything in this book I
just like to know everything so the
section on abortion has to well it has 1
4 so it has 5 different testimonies from
different people and their beliefs and
how they lived their beliefs now they're
not all the same this is the thing about
Quaker faith in practice it doesn't say
his methods I Lana let me give you the
straight answer
enjoy instead it has different people's
thoughts and how they perceive quaker
testimony and the answer that it gives
them so I'm gonna read to you so the
first thing it says it's there are many
reasons why a person may consider an
abortion friends in this yearly meeting
have no United view on abortion in
general nor is their agreement on
principles understandably there's been
little open sharing of experience and
therefore sadly almost no public
discussion amongst friends as a result
many individuals face a decision without
being able to calm practical and
spiritual support of a gathered meeting
or small group without the help of
friends and seeking the light and then
we have two personal accounts one of
which is from I believe a woman and
who's writing about it a member of my
family became pregnant and a decision
had to be made quickly within 24 hours a
baby was not intended neither if the
young people concerned had financial
resources a childhood affect the
establishment of at least one if not two
careers I was the sole financial support
of the family so that I to not care for
a child it was clear to me then it was
clear to us all but in the early
abortion was the right answer that does
not mean that abortion itself is right
but the when human beings became a
situation where every choice is wrong
and courageous and responsible decisions
have to be made
and consequences left with now it's very
interesting thing it says in a sense an
unborn child carried for all of us the
costs of being a broken family in a
broken world so this is actually saying
that abortion in that moment in that
decision in that family was the right
thing to do however then later on we
have a Quaker Billie she's a Quaker Mass
and she was asked to become involved in
the procedure of a therapeutic abortion
and was forced to decide and her final
decision made after much heart surgeon
was to say no as a result I had to move
to a less conveniently placed Hospital
my decision was accepted and no times my
livelihood threatened now in her case
she'd used the right to choose but this
left me Joel Emma why should I stand on
another's right to choose to have an
abortion
my truce was respected and my rights
maintained my responsibilities had to be
to respect mother's choice and maintain
their right to my compassion and
understanding so that we can kind of
take that it's really up to you to make
the decision and it's a very difficult
thing not having a clear way I think it
would almost be easier to make moral
choices of the Quaker if they were just
right yes and no next to each topic but
no the idea is that we have to take from
it the best way that we feel to live our
lives and like this nurse says nobody
judged her from not wanting to be
involved in an abortion so she felt that
she didn't have the right to judge
anyone else who didn't choose to have
one and I think that's generally what we
can say is the Quaker ideas on abortion
that it's that people's right to choose
whatever you personally feel or don't so
it's they go and I feel much the same
but it's up to everyone I have no idea
what I would do in that situation I have
no idea who I'm Phil so I can't say one
way or the other I've never been that
okay well GB dq+ that was deep okay
we're moving on a beautiful
I hope sorry I hope you're enjoying this
by the way do you feel like you are I'm
really enjoying just reading things out
okay lgbtq+
I don't even need to look in the book
I'm very gay and very married um yeah
Quakerism Quakers in Britain I was
actually at the meeting this is the
Wonder come out Quakers
we decide on things collectively
so have people yearly meeting where
every local meeting has been in every
town and village sends a representative
or Northam on it it's very large meeting
to britain yearly meeting and we all sit
together and we decide on topic and in
god what year was it oh I'm not sure it
was in New York though quick yearly
meeting in York terrible I should know
it was before um before the legal
passing of gay marriage in the UK
because Quakers were ahead of our minds
I remember that and we all came together
and decided the Quaker view on gay
marriage in Britain and obviously the
decision passed and we're all very good
with that but there are many things in
here written about lgbtq+ people about
how we you know how we are all created
the way they are that there's nothing
deviant or wrong with people there
lgbtq+ that we should not allow people
to be discriminated that straight Ally
should stand up if they see anything
like this happening that people should
be welcomed very much about love is love
type of equality in the Quaker marriage
process my diffs there and make a video
I was wondering if you were interested
about Quaker marriage and it seems like
everyone is so I make an act proper
video that explains it all to you and
the things that we say in Quaker
marriage practice because we don't have
the Vicar priest
we know each other we give ourselves to
each other and in that you can use the
words husband wife partner I think I
think that's maybe something else oh
gosh I will read up again that video um
so you can choose whatever you would
like to call your other half
and it does not matter what gender is on
their birth certificate you can use any
of those words there was also it was
really an interesting thing to Clara
earlier about gender wasn't my see if I
can find that see I will really like
this passage it is not an accident that
throughout the centuries women have
provided the call Christian worship
although in order to fulfill the divine
will at that particular place in time
Jesus was born for son of Joseph when he
passed out of time into eternity surely
sex was contended might be not gain also
if the male image is the Lord Almighty
replaced in our imagination by concept
more line with Julian's vision of the
mother Christ the dual emblem the
mystery of created love but I take from
that is that souls you don't have
genitals would I quite agree with I
don't think that we do I think we have
bodies that have sex sex sex is and
gender presentations but I don't believe
our souls do but I think when you love
someone so truly love someone it doesn't
really matter what their outside is at
all it's just all about their soul
they're going to love me totally please
do ask more questions my goodness
they are trust me oh sorry sir you are
asking questions cars does not relate
I'll help out as quickly as you can
yeah House Bible in is is cheetah's
positive Quakerism Oh like do we use the
Bible yeah I like this yeah answer
Germany generally antic Quaker meeting
you will see quick opinion practice is
put on the table in the center and will
be on some of the chairs so you can just
pick it up and but there will also be
the Bible in various different editions
not all Quakers use the Bible but I
would say most Quakers do take lessons
from the Bible they're quite selective
with it and I think we came to apply
Quaker principles to the Bible as then
we don't take the bits where there's
violence and you know one lot of people
going against another lot of people and
take that as a wider message I think
it's more about the spirit of something
rather than the letter but I'd have
Jesus I break this down here we go then
go so it's got helpful the religious
Society of Friends is rooted in
Christianity and has always found
inspiration in the life and teachings of
Jesus how do you interpret your faith in
the light of this heritage how does
Jesus speak to you today are you
following Jesus example of love in
action are you learning from his life
the reality and cost of obedience to God
how does his relationship with God
challenge and inspire you
yes seriously Quaker faith America's
actually just asks you can questions
that you ask first tomorrow on yourself
I love touched it's so nice and if
that's the kind of thing that we're
taking from the Bible and from the story
of Jesus's life the idea of love and
you're going against everything for what
you believe is right trying to help
people as best you can even if it puts
yourself at a disadvantage
good answer
I think so yeah after you chuckling with
Clara all right let's get in Oh bad
people bad people people really have
trouble with that like what happens
we've really awful human yeah
what happens with really awful people
okay do you want my personal opinion
first and then I'll give you quick
advice and practice yes okay my personal
opinion my personal take on bad people I
know like I said to you there are no I
know I said in the video there are no
bad people there are only bad actions I
do genuinely believe that I don't think
that anyone is born evil I think you can
be born with an imbalance of chemicals
in your brain that make you a sociopath
or psychopath I don't think you're evil
I don't think that's your fault or your
choice the actions that you then take
probably not going to be great ones but
maybe that's also the fault of society
it should have recognized something
within you and stepped in at some point
in that game where they always say with
Psychopaths like oh well he didn't
murder animals and here's a child maybe
how much you've stepped in the stroke
that and having some help
sorry I'm using him but very gendered
yeah and also okay
so again my thing with bad there are no
bad people are only bad actions is if we
look at people who are diagnosed as
Psychopaths wasn't like one in three of
the top CEOs of the world it's a
diagnosis psychopath we just study it's
quite interesting because those traits
can either be used for very negative
things or they can be used for positive
they can be used to your advantage in a
way that doesn't necessarily damage
other people the
does that give more of an idea about
you're not a bad person
but the actions that you do may be bad
does that make sense in the same way
that this is one people always bring up
and people always bring up pedophiles
because I don't think that it's I don't
think that someone can be totally blamed
for having those feelings they're just
feelings and they're also often
unintended what's the Oh what's the
thing that pops into your brain
interesting thank you often people have
intrusive thoughts about this type of
thing so they're not intended they don't
want that thought it's just there
they're not that person for having that
intrusive thought like sometimes I stand
on the edge of a mountain and I'm like
what happen if this jumper hm-hmm I'm
going to do it but I still got that
thought but that doesn't then make me a
suicidal person um but then if someone
goes act on those things again my
personal belief would be that they're
probably not in their right mind they're
probably not mentally okay and that they
need some form of like looking after and
Quaker is greatest and believes that
prison is for reform more than it is for
punishment
you don't putting someone in prison just
to punish them you should be putting
them in prison to help them build the
skills that they need to be a good and
useful member of society okay
yeah does that make sense to people get
there's more I can read in the book but
it's again it's that kind of thing again
that prison and the importance of
helping us helping people there anything
in the book you disagree with oh good
question
is there anything I disagree ladies and
I want a great sponsor oh I think
because most things in the book have yes
no one maybe answer there are definitely
things that I disagree with I do
struggle with does their doom Quakers
and that bad actions don't and it's not
okay to do a bad action to get a good
end results so you shouldn't harm
someone you shouldn't you shouldn't
physically get involved in a war and
start killing people because you think
that that will lead to a positive
results for your country so you
shouldn't go against your principles to
lead to something given the end but on
the other hand there are there's also
the belief that we shouldn't have to
I shouldn't have to you but we shouldn't
abide by the law if we don't see that it
is a good if we don't think that it's a
good law which I struggle with quite a
lot of quite automatic analysis okay
it's an example I want to give you but
I'm trying to like strike all of the
personal details from it so that no one
can find who this is okay in a so in the
prayer meeting there was a group of
people who were protesting against a
certain weapon that their country was
creating
and they took this protest against this
weapon from just holding placards and
chanting and raising money and awareness
to breaking the law
trespassing going into this government
site and damaging property damaging the
weapon itself now on one hand you can
argue this is a really good thing
because now this weapon can't go and
injure lots and lots of people and even
though the weapon was intended just to
be kept as you know defense and not
actually used but it couldn't now be
used however on the other hand the
government just fixed it so which they
were obviously going to do anyway so
they're just using taxpayer money again
I don't agree with the government using
taxpayer money on these types of things
because it makes us all complicit but
that's another story for a long time and
so they had to use more taxpayer money
to fix this weapon which is what they
would have done anyway and then also the
people involved were facing jail
sentences and they said that previously
in the past Quakers have been jailed
repeatedly from the many many times when
clickers and first came about George Fox
who was a founder and his followers were
often imprisoned because they were a new
religion that contravenes the law and
they continued to hold their Quaker
meetings even when they were told if you
hold this meeting we will put you in
prison and they did and they took all of
the adults and they put them in prison
and then the children came back and held
the meeting anyway and then dammit they
don't put the children in prison so did
that aren't so there's a long history of
Quakers being put into prison and
contravening the law for their beliefs
are going against slavery going against
conscription obviously this type of
thing
but I don't feel that that was necessary
in this situation but yet these people
still used Quakerism to justify what
they had done see so there's lots of
kind of backwards and forwards in
Quakers and like this and it's quite
nice that it's a religion that allows
for very you know four different people
to interpret what they will from it so
yeah that's the one thing that I
probably have a difficulty with I hope
that was a good answer and was not too
long and rambly here we go if you have
more questions please do come also super
chat so then Clara can throw some more
poppers because you know she wants to or
so that I think it's easier for her to
see your question because it comes up in
a different manner but I don't know yeah
because I can't see it
and your n hi thank you very much for
joining me by the way
I was slightly nervous about making my
video about Quakers and I sort of
thought people wouldn't be very
interested in it but I'm really amazed
it's really interesting how people who
find it quite fascinating which is good
I I find people's religions very
fascinating and people's stories so I'm
glad you do too thank you very much for
joining me and for watching that one
next question please
now let's jump in a deep okay deep topic
more you to lie they are hidden I have
an inhale um I it's my belief I think no
Quakers yes I think we don't believe in
hell I'd say most Quakers and might be
the odd one
but what I have been taught at Quaker
Meeting and a children's meeting is that
there is no hell
because why would there be again
there are not bad people and we are
already noble and we all have the chance
to redeem ourselves whether that be
before or after death so we do you
believe in the afterlife quite logically
occurs do believe in the afterlife
um I personally do I do you believe in
the afterlife but there's no hell
because there's no no he'll there's no
devil there's no temptation of an
otherworldly kind that is driving you to
do bad things
okay that was shorter than you're
expecting again I can give you some
quotes well it's so now it's a shortened
version take the jump into science on
creation is jumping into saya makers in
your personal beliefs okay my my
personal beliefs about science and
religion her Sciences Sciences science
Sciences facts science is real yes I
believe in science but at the same time
I think there's always more that we do
not know there are new scientific
discoveries all the time so I think what
science reaches us is that there is no
definitive answer to anything not really
the world and the universe are just one
big open mystery was that weird that's
that yeah you know I mean a stone is a
stone that is that stone in this
universe and the next and parallel
universes and distant galaxies who knows
Thank You Quakerism yeah general you
general view is breakers if I can find
it is that folding down the ones we've
already down oh we got science
I literally just wrote it as science so
is often supposed that science and
religious belief are incompatible indeed
a dichotomy does exist between some
traditional views of God's interaction
to the universe and Sciences perception
of natural laws if we only use God to
fill the gaps wherever a rational
explanation has not been found God's
world must diminish a scientific
understanding grows a God of the gaps is
inevitably a rather small God
however the imminence of God in our
world may be appreciated through science
as vividly as through the Arts many
scientists daily experience God through
their work in the elegance and
sophistication of natural design or in
the beauty and harmony revealed in
certain theories the growing body of
scientific knowledge demand the
continous rethinking of what is meant by
creator but our greater understanding
magnifies broaden diminishes our
appreciation of God there you go
basically the idea is that science
religion have much in common and that
believing scientific theories believing
in the Big Bang does in no way diminish
the power of God whatever you I do God
may be sorry I got excited cuz I thank
you very much sure of me Clara's day
just then she's very happy she gets to
do another pop back no I'm kidding there
you go on hey don't worry it's too deep
for you they go if you feel like this
life stream is going too deep at any
moment please do feel free to let Clara
blow a popper
well it's because when you come we don't
interrupt you no no I'm done it's
alright okay that was it science yay God
yay not incompatible way that was it o-o
al t h EA o ther elfia I'm sorry I don't
even know unless she's saying she
stopped even signing at this sorry what
hey yeah I'll ya e ya H yeah E
Alethea okay is that right Althea I'm so
sorry and but your name but she would
like to know how does one become a
Quaker efficiently
Oh process it gone up there again this
is amazing what's gonna come home and
very much appreciate this you know why
cuz it's our anniversary for anyone who
does not follow me on instagram or
twitter and therefore does not know that
I met my wife four years ago today it
was all of them met in a pub called the
Setting Sun and we sat talking until the
sunset it was beautiful and then we got
kicked out cuz they were like shut up
and leaves and they were like oh we love
each other so then she walked me home
you sit on my doorstep and talk for an
hour and then she moved in because we're
lesbians right next crashboys the
question I'm so sorry healthier then
we're like a hundred happy anniversary I
lost all the question hey how does one
become a Quaker oh yeah you have to that
was it right it's usually like you only
one how do you officially become a
member so a Quaker
ah let's see let's see if I can remember
I was 16 because that is the age of
which we are allowed to officially
become a Quaker alright just don't mind
meeting maybe different meetings and
everything
basically there are fakers around the
world and they do have different ways of
doing things in different countries they
don't have my local meeting that I am
attended since I was a child I wrote
them a letter
you have to officially write a letter to
the meeting saying that you would like
to become a member and then I told you
about elders in the Quakerism video so
if you haven't seen that and you're just
watching this perform hi
elders are essentially people within the
meeting who hold jobs they're not
they're not more important than anyone
else and you can only hold the position
of elder for three years and go do it
twice in a row
no one's left get ahead of themselves
and you can't put yourself forward you
have to be nominated by other people and
so real simple so ah you have to write a
letter and then the elders read it and
then they take it to the meeting and
they ask for meeting collectively
so-and-so would like to become a member
and the meeting says yes meet with them
yeah that's weird
you're kind of like you're in the
meeting hi this is funny and then they
send some elders to your house had two
lovely pirate at the time my mother was
also an elder but obviously she couldn't
do it
because I'm her child so she have send
to other people for reference how old do
you have to be to be an elder oh I'm
sorry
no being an elder is in no way related
to your age I could be another right now
if someone nominated me proceed proceed
yeah you don't have to be old to be an
elder you just have to have a good
working knowledge of Quakerism so econ
you can't be better afresh you have to
be a member as well and then who knows
stuff and then two elders come to your
house you have a conversation they ask
you things as a teenager
they asked me things about how I
reconcile being a Quaker with my friends
teenage drinking and bikes how I would
handle dating as a Quaker and the big
questions and they they do because deep
kiss very much this out ow
sorry okay all right
ah hey I'm coming
what can you still see me if I sit here
mm-hmm I'll write it a oh hi I'm
just going to massage my foot else we
continue this conversation I engage New
York ramp terrible terrible crap in my
limbs ah oh that's so painful all right
exciting times in in on this live stream
oh yeah
anything could happen you just don't
know good times
oh that's so bad ah hmm oh my god
sorry Jennsen man an ice-cold Diet Coke
three minutes oh crap oh boy hmm
everyone is concerned reassuring nah
it's all right don't panic this happens
okay mmm Oh panicking right now
good boy good boy don't worry
right so tubular comes your house they
actually think much like when Lord and I
had a Quaker wedding you meet beforehand
with the elders the meeting event get
married at and they ask you various very
searching questions about Quakerism in
your life and how you will work
Quakerism into it or how Quakerism has
already been worked into life and then
they take from this conversation and
they take it back to the meeting the
meeting for business which is a
different kind of meeting to the meeting
for worship meeting for worship is where
it happens every Sunday we all sort of
explain the name you could sit around
it's our idea of a church service kind
of how that works but a meeting if the
business happens probably once a month
and it happens after meeting for worship
and we use quicker business practice
that's another video as well that's deep
but basically business decisions are
made by silence as well so someone put a
proposition forward everyone sits in
silence if then discussed by one person
standing up and ministering and then
sitting down more silent someone else
stands up gives their point of view it
can take a while just have to get
decided and then act meeting for
business on the first meaningful
business that happens after the elders
have had the meeting with you and they
feel that had time to think about it
they will bring your application to
become a member of the a particular
meeting to the whole meeting and there
is a so-and-so would like to become a
member is this or is this agreed upon
and we all say hope so of them yes I
guess that's then how you become a
member I believe there you go if someone
asked what the difference is between an
attender and a visitor and a tender is
just someone who was known to the
meeting so you would come for a number
of years he probably would get involved
in social occasions with other Baker's
and generally attend as a kind of family
members some people come attenders and
then they become members but you're not
giving some kind of special cleric that
you're in a tender and attenders are
allowed at most meetings and social
functions but they can't get involved in
meeting for business because business
has to be decided by the members of the
meeting and a visitor is someone who
just is visiting they could collect your
fifth visit but you're not three part of
their part of the meeting there you go
how's that take to be a member and can
you like resign oh no no sorry
they always actually in that you'd have
to pay no you don't have to pay to be a
member but once a year it is
couraged for Quakers to give what it
what they can in order to help the
upkeep of the running of Quakers in
Britain which is the overall thing say
go and there was a collection at the end
of meeting for any kind of charitable
cause we have a tend to have like a
chargeable cause of the month the most
meetings some smaller meet another
income charitable cause of the year so
whatever you have at the end of meeting
you put into the little collection pot
and that goes towards whatever the
charity is and there's always a box at
the money house which is just the upkeep
of the building itself so if you're
walking past you know as a ruddy massive
hole in the ceiling there I'm going to
write a cheque and pop it in this box
then you are very welcome to do so
whatever can you resign from being a
member yes you can it's very sad but yes
you just follow much the same process as
becoming a member you just write and say
that you'd like to withdraw your
membership and then you meet with some
of the elders and they say you know why
is this happening is it because we're
not doing well by you if there's
something that we're not doing well
enough that you need us to change and if
you just say no I'm just not really
feeling Quakerism anymore thinking it's
for me like I've decided to go often
it's real my own religion then like okay
and again it comes up before we do the
business and then it ah that's a shame
okay that's what's right for the person
did you hear that did that make a noise
what your input yeah yeah nice just
checking the crown felt like that Wow
okay good that's enough that's good
why you ready for a hard question for my
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why don't I be difficult I'm so excited
by the toughest guy yeah and they
wouldn't even or my fish because this is
just fabulous
I wouldn't put this all around my house
I'm gonna pop in and trim my hair can we
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all right so if Quakerism wasn't okay
with gay marriage hey babe Strega
sorry if Quakerism wasn't okay with gay
marriage yes the question is church yeah
oh okay well I am I don't have a part of
your religion that is not okay with who
I am I would be like bye I'm off I
believe that God and I can have our own
talks thanks and God made me and God
things I'm pretty great so I was born
gay I obviously would well that's pretty
much the answer to that question isn't
it yeah
it's not necessarily choosing Georgia it
will be choosing myself thank you strong
lady yeah you do what's right for you
then anyone break you down so sorry just
adjusting yeah I know you will keep this
on your enemy there's so many questions
yes general booze and sex before and
after marriage and all that okay
general this is one of crew Diaz biggest
concerns on our first date she was like
deafness whoever disabled well if I
could deal with all that who cares
do you drink I do you have sex before
marriage no to the first basically the
idea of Quakerism is that much like
everything else we do we should not be
injuring other people in any way and
especially not playing with them
emotionally so it is very important with
your sexuality what are you doing I'm
sorry that's not to me I was distracted
and it's very important with your
sexuality that you use it and you
express
yourself in a way that does not cause
harm to you and does not cause harm to
any other person if you are of happy as
you can have sex with many many
different people as long as emotionally
you are okay with that as long as
physically you're being very safe and as
long as none of these other people are
getting their emotions tied up and
twisted and played with in any way
that's fine you do you but just make
sure that everyone is okay and everyone
knows what they're doing
that's pretty much it and equally I I
personally my personal choices million
rate in the general to the particular I
very much wanted to only ever sleep with
the person that I was going to marry oh
well I I really only wanted it ever to
have sex with online if it was if I
truly deeply loved them
that was just my but that was just me
other people have different
interpretations again just make sure
that no one's getting hurt there a
polyamorous Quakers actually I've come
to it but polyamorous people are very
careful about people's emotions if
they're not them that tree of
polyamorous people they're just people
who like to hurt other people but
pretend to be caring Stevie told me that
I think Stevie Tonya mm-hmm Stevie told
me that this was a trap question as well
so Jack question well it's a deep one
can you talk about Quakers awesome role
in the abolishment of slavery abolition
abolition sorry
can you talk well
there's a whole section let's open it up
shall we
QuickBase in practice do-do-do-do here
now I'm going to the front
everything's at the back very confusing
book this sometimes essentially savory
bad a venetian see slavery discuss
amongst yourselves for a minute while I
try to get to the section because I
don't want to say the wrong thing with
our United basics obviously abolition of
slavery is in this is very confusing
book because it does not have page
numbers because obviously it gets
printed or very often and in different
sizes so they're just different
testimonies and you get testimony number
right okay great this is a massive
section oh my gosh who wants their own
video Mike person and the role of
Quakers in the abolition of slavery yeah
who wants that okay um in brief Quakers
did not agree with slavery because we
believe that all people are equal
whatever their race whatever their shade
of their skin wherever they come from we
are all equal and no man has the right
to own any other man
it's very gendered language but that's
from the 1600
good and although start with some
Quakers did own slaves because generally
at that time obviously the prevailing
idea was that slaves
were not people they were animals so
some people who had originally owned
slaves then did calmed Quakerism and
realized that what they had been doing
was wrong and therefore gave up their
slaves to their freedom and many Quakers
helped to set up and I even helped set
up a belief they did and they set up the
Underground Railroad which helped in
America to get slaves from the south to
the north where they could be free I
must say I do think American Quakers
will they're not more about this but
Quakers in Britain also were very
involved in the abolition of slavery in
England who abolished slavery hundred
years before America did I think and
that was how she drove my campaigns from
Quakers there involved
we're very loud when we need to be very
quiet the other time it's very loud we
need to be and there's there were many
kind of adventures and wonderful things
and I have kind of am half remembered in
my brain I don't want to see them you
know tell you a wonderful story and then
it's not alright I'll make a video about
it
who wants a video about that I find it
fascinating I really love making videos
about history I'm there than history
obsessive as you can see from my
ridiculous number no historical fiction
books oh you can't see that note I said
you can't see I narrate to this side of
me there's a pile of the pile okay was
that good enough yeah it's been an hour
by I'm sorry papa
can I just have a phone yes why don't
you do one go
okay are we ready oh that smells so nice
mmm yes literally like gunpowder oh my
god okay someone else do a super chat
thing so the car will give me another
proper because I enjoyed that immensely
and
excellent right
any sorry any other questions there's
many many of them but definitely yes to
the wedding video oh yes to the wedding
Quakerism video and people were really
into business relationships that's good
to know I would really really like to
make some historical videos it sounds
like a beautiful asleep boy did you hear
that sounds like a video to fall asleep
with because your boys know I'll give
you that actually did you know fun fact
I once won a talent competition by
pushing everyone to sleep I knew inmates
I remember that on the stage with a
microphone and read children's book
about a squirrel hunting and everyone
fell asleep and then when they were
woken up the next act they were very
unhappy so I won the talent competition
there you go
yeah I've actually been thinking about
making videos so you could just choose
to fall asleep with like anti-anxiety
videos really really long video so when
you're feeling really stressed you could
just listen to my video about the
history of bamboo or something and then
you'd feel really good about yourself I
do that is that main channel thing I
didn't have another channel dunno why I
said main channel I make another shuttle
oh there we go
that's good did you get another profit
yes cuz I miss it before and BB kinda
reminded me thank you
okay are you ready are we ready oh yes
I'm fine I know this is so fun this is
really making off my crime I must say
maybe there was another sweet chat this
is which at these super chat is just for
a popper
okay oh hey good what's gonna come home
tonight okay I love you guys
it's love darling and covered in love
that is a great evening for this thank
you thank you so much for joining me in
my little conversation of love with the
Papas I mean let's all be honest the
coppers were the best bit by I'm glad
that we also got to discuss in history
and religion and a bit more about
Quakerism and I'm very much forward to
making nice calming relaxing videos
about Quakers
the interest me but you can for salute
York thank you very much for joining me
I'm looking forward to our next live
stream Vera come come say goodbye all
right with your face with my fade for
right what else
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come on Jonathan My yes I'm in coming
there we go this is our names oh okay
thank you so much for joining us I've
had such a good time against tear down
the livestream we simply do one of the
monthly yeah wish it so we're going to
there will be another one next month
yeah also don't forget I'll be up
somewhere in the city
very soon so if you're going to Thurman
City you have to come and see me and say
hi I'll be on the women online panel
Marla's last day and the disabilities
and figment on YouTube um yeah I'll be
there and I'll just be wandering around
as well you can just wave probably like
at some point tweet I'm here can say hi
yeah and then you come and say hi and
I'm gonna give you a sticker because I
have stickers and pride is before that
yeah pride before that if you're coming
to Brighton pride I will definitely see
you
there yes I'll be there too
yay we're gonna be so gay and glittery
and rainbow and it's gonna be excellent
yes
it'll have coppers as well I've decided
to discourage very less valid poppers
for all occasions it was fun thanks
everywhere and really appreciate it
obviously everything goes for the
channel and Jessica and the nose
thank you for having fun with me