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♪ ♪ >> Martha: SO LET’S BRING IN
TREY GOWDY, FORMER CHAIR OF THE
HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND
FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR’S.
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT THIS
MORNING ABOUT HOW THIS UKRAINE
CONVERSATION SEEMS TO BE
SHIFTING OVER TO
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM.
AND I WONDER HOW YOU SEE THAT.
WHAT DOES THAT SIGNAL TO YOU?
>> WELL, I WATCHED HIS PRESS
CONFERENCE THIS MORNING.
I THINK HIS POINT IS WHAT IS THE
THRESHOLD FOR AN INVESTIGATION?
WE LEARNED WITH RUSSIA THAT IT
CAN BE A CONVERSATION IN A BAR.
THAT’S ALL IT TAKES TO LAUNCH AN
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD?
NO ONE IS CONCLUDING THAT THEY
ENGAGED IN ANY IMPROPRIETY, BUT
WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD?
I HOPE THAT THE ANCILLARY
QUESTION IS, IF JOE BIDEN WERE
NOT A CANDIDATE, WOULD THIS BE
AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE?
IF YOU WERE JUST AN ORDINARY
AMERICAN THAT SAID WHAT HE SAID
ABOUT WITHHOLDING THE LOAN
ASSISTANCE, WHO HAD A SON WITH
NO QUALIFICATIONS BEING ON A
BOARD IN A COUNTRY WITH
PERVASIVE CORRUPTION, WOULD THIS
BE AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE?
OR IS IT ONLY BECAUSE HE’S IN
THE STATUS OF POTENTIAL
CANDIDATE, THAT THIS SOMEHOW IS
ELEVATED TO SOMETHING FOR WHICH
YOU SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM
OFFICE?
OFFICE? >> Bret: IT IS BRET.
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON, I SHOULD SAY.
THE QUESTION THAT KEEPS COMING
UP IS WHY THIS IS URGENT.
ADAM SCHIFF TALKED ABOUT THAT ON
THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE
YESTERDAY, SAYING ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO INTERFERE
OR CHEAT IN THE 2020 ELECTION.
SENATOR BOB CASEY FROM
PENNSYLVANIA TALKED A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT IT ON HERE EARLIER.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER
A MUCH MORE GRAVE MATTER, AND
THAT IS AN ATTEMPT TO USE THE
POWERS OF THE PRESIDENT’S
PRESIDENCY TO CHEAT.
THE PRESIDENT’S MISCONDUCT
CANNOT BE DECIDED AT THE BALLOT
BOX.
BOX. FOR WE CANNOT BE ASSURED THAT
THE VOTE WILL BE FAIRLY WON.
IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE ARE
REVIEWING IS THE PRESIDENT’S
CONDUCT, SO YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL
ELECTION DAY TO SORT THAT OUT
BECAUSE I THINK IT IS VERY
IMPORTANT THAT OUT OF THE
FOUNDERS ENSHRINED IN THE
CONSTITUTION, THEY HAVE TO HAVE
A CHECK ON THE EXECUTIVES,
BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T HAVE
THAT CHECK, WHICH IS ONLY
PERMITTED THROUGH IMPEACHMENT,
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO DO
THAT.
THAT. NO HEARING, NO COURT, NO
NOTHING.
NOTHING. OTHERWISE, YOU COULD HAVE AN
EXECUTIVE CHEATING THEIR WAY TO
THE NEXT ELECTION.
>> Bret: I WANT YOU TO WEIGH
IN HERE, BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS
THE WAY THAT ADAM SCHIFF SET UP,
DO VOTERS NEVER GOING TO GET TO
TRUST THE VOTE, AND ONLY
LAWMAKERS CAN DECIDE WHAT THE
LINE IS, THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN
GET KICKED OUT OF OFFICE?
>> YEAH, BRET, ADAM IS
ORDINARILY NOT THAT STUPID, BUT
WHEN YOU TELL THE JURY, THE
SENATE, ONE DAY THAT THEY ARE
CORRUPT, THEN YOU TELL THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THEY CANNOT
BE TRUSTED TO PICK THE COMMANDER
IN CHIEF, THAT IS JUST A WILDLY
STUPID TRIAL STRATEGY.
REMEMBER WHEN DONALD TRUMP AS A
CANDIDATE BEGAN TO QUESTION THE
RELIABILITY OF THE VOTE.
REMEMBER WHEN HE STARTED MAKING
ALLUSIONS TO POTENTIAL VOTER
FRAUD, AND HE WAS CRITICIZED BY
EVERYONE I HEARD IN THE MEDIA
FOR EVEN SUGGESTING THAT YOU
COULD NOT RELY ON A VOTE TOTAL.
ADAM SCHIFF HAS DONE THE EXACT
SAME THING.
SAME THING. AMERICAN PEOPLE, WE DON’T TRUST
YOU TO FACTOR THIS IN A
NOVEMBER, SO WE NEED 100
SENATORS TO DECIDE THAT.
IT IS ALL WILDLY STUPID TRIAL