BERNIE’S TOO OLD AND PETE’S TOO
YOUNG AND THIS DIDN’T WORK OUT.
[LAUGHTER]
WILL: BILL MAHER RAISING
CONCERNS ABOUT DEMOCRATS’
PROSPECTS IN 2024 AS PRESIDENT
BIDEN’S APPROVAL RATING HITS
ANOTHER LOW OF 43%.
HERE TO REACT, FORMER ARKANSAS
GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE.
GOVERNOR, I THINK I HEARD YOU
LAUGHING ALONG WITH THE CLIPS.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU KNOW, BILL MAHER OR DOES
HAVE AN A INDEPENDENT STREAK,
AND WE SHOULD POINT THAT OUT.
HE HAS AN INDEPENDENT STREAK I
THINK DIFFERENT THAN OTHER
COMEDIANS.
BUT HE’S NOT ALONE, GOVERNOR.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE NATIONAL PRESS
CORPS IN THE WAKE OF JOE BIDEN’S
PRESS CONFERENCE BEGAN A
TRANSITION INTO SOME SKEPTICISM.
WHY DO YOU THINK NOW?
WHY DO YOU THINK THERE’S A
LITTLE BIT OF TIDE TURNING?
AND I’LL EMPHASIZE LITTLE BIT,
GOVERNOR, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF
TIDE TURNING AGAINST JOE BIDEN
WITH TRADITIONAL SUPPORT BASES?
>> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS, BILL
MAHER IS AN HONEST GUY.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH
HIM, BUT HE’S SAYING WHAT HE
REALLY FEELS, AND THAT’S ONE OF
HIS CHARMS.
BUT I THINK IT CAN BEST BE
DESCRIBED IN THIS WAY, THERE WAS
A DOG FOOD COMPANY THAT WAS
GOING TO CREATE WHAT THEY
THOUGHT WAS THE GREATEST DOG
FOOD IN THE WORLD.
AND THEY ASSEMBLED THE BEST
SCIENTISTS TO CREATE THE
FORMULA, THEY CREATED THE MOST
AMAZING PACKAGING, THEY HAD THE
MOST WONDERFUL MARKETING AND
ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN AND THE
GREATEST SALES FORCE THAT HAD
EVER BEEN CONSIDERED, BUT THE
DOG FOOD WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER
AND FLOPPED, AND IT JUST DIDN’T
SELL.
AND SO THE PRESIDENT OF THE
COMPANY WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHY, AND HE ASKED THE QUESTION
HOW COME THIS ISN’T WORKING X.
FINALLY, ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN
THE ROOM SAID, SIR, THE DOGS
WON’T EAT THE DANG STUFF.
WHAT’S HAPPENING TO THE DEMOCRAT
PARTY IS THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA
AREN’T EATING THE STUFF.
THEY KNOW BETTER.
THEY KNOW THAT THE NONSENSE THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE PUT FORTH IS
SIMPLY NOT GOING TO WORK FOR
AMERICA.
OPEN BORDERS, GETTING -- GIVING
AWAY OUR ENERGY CAPACITY, NOT
HAVING A MILITARY STRENGTH AND
MAKING BLUNLD ROUSE DECISIONS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COMBINED
INTO MAKING FOR EVEN DEMOCRATS
WHERE HAY SAY -- THEY SAY THIS
JUST ISN’T WORKING.
WILL: SO EVEN DEMOCRATS,
GOVERNOR, THEN LET’S ASK THIS
QUESTION: DO YOU THINK IT IS I
DON’T WANT TO SAY POSSIBLE,
BECAUSE ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE.
HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK IT IS
THAT JOE BIDEN DOES NOT
REPRESENT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
IN THEIR, ON THEIR TICKET FOR
PRESIDENT IN 2024?
>> I WOULD SAY IT’S 99.99% THAT
HE WILL NOT BE EITHER RUNNING,
AND IF HE DOES, I DON’T THINK
HE’LL BE THE NOMINEE.
I DON’T KNOW THAT HE CAN STAND
TO GO ALL THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
BUT EVEN IF HE DOES, I DON’T SEE
THINGS CHANGING SO DRAMATICALLY.
BECAUSE I DON’T SEE JOE
CHANGING.
JOE’S CAUGHT BETWEEN THE FAR
LEFT OF HIS PARTY THAT HE’S
TRYING TO APPEASE AND MORE
MODERATE DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE
SIMPLY DECIDED THE PARTY HAS
LEFT THEM, AND THEY’RE BECOMING
AT LEAST INDEPENDENTS AND IN
MORE CASES THAN NOT, THEY’RE
BECOMING REPUBLICANS BECAUSE
THEY REALIZE THAT INFLATION IS
OUTSTRIPPING THEIR WAGES,
THEY’RE LOSING GROUND NOT
GAINING IT.
AND THE ONLY REASON THEY CAN
POINT TO IT IS BECAUSE THE
DEMOCRATS AND THE FAR LEFT ARE
MANY POWER.
ARE IN POWER.
WILL: AND REALLY QUICKLY ON THE
WAY OUT, LET’S TAKE UP BILL
MAHER’S CONVERSATION.
I DON’T KNOW THEN AND I’M GOING
TO TURN TO YOU, WHERE DO YOU GO
IF JOE CAN’T RUN OR IF THEY
CONVINCE HIM NOT TO RUN?
WHERE DO YOU GO?
KAMALA HARRIS’ APPROVAL RATING
IS 53% UNFAVORABLE.
PETE BUTTIGIEG DOESN’T SEEM LIKE
THE ANSWER.
I DON’T THINK THEY CAN CONVINCE
THEMSELVES THAT’S THE ANSWER.
HILLARY CLINTON?
WHERE DO YOU TURN?
>> I THINK THEY’LL LOOK FOR SOME
EFFECTIVE DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR.
IT’S NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THE
FAR LEFT.
IT MAY BE POLIS MANY COLORADO,
SOMEBODY THAT WE DON’T EVEN
THINK ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
BUT SOMEBODY WHO’S A PRAGMATIST,
WHO’S A PROBLEM SOLVER, WHO’S
NOT AN IDEALOGUE.
THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO 1992
WHEN BILL CLINTON EMERGED.
HE WAS A PRAGMATIST.
HE WAS NOT AN IDEOLOGICAL KIND
OF GUY.
AND I THINK THAT’S THE ONLY
THING THE DEMOCRATS CAN HOPE
FOR.
IT WON’T BE HILLARY BECAUSE SHE
IS IDEOLOGICAL.
BUT HER HUSBAND WASN’T.
THAT’S THE ONLY REAL HOPE THEY
HAVE.
AND WHEN YOU LOSE BILL MAHER, I
YOU’VE LOST REALLY A LOT OF THE
BASE OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
AND I WOULD SAY THIS, THIS WOULD
BE THE EQUIVALENT OF HAVING
RONALD REAGAN LOSE NANCY.
YOU JUST, YOU CAN’T LOSE YOUR
KEY SUPPORTERS AND MOVE FORWARD.
YOU’VE GOT TO CHANGE COURSE.
IF.
WILL: AND, GOVERNOR, IT’LL BE
FASCINATING TO SEE HOW MUCH SWAY
THE RADICAL WINGS OF THAT
PARTY -- NOT JUST THE AOCs AND
THE ILHAN OMAR PAS, BUT EVEN THE
ONES WHO DRIVE THESE FAR-LEFT
IDEOLOGIES HAVE OVER THE PARTY.
CAN THEY, THAT’LL BE THE
QUESTION, CAN THEY ACTUALLY TURN
TO SOMEBODY PRAGMATIC.
I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT
MOVING FORWARD.
GOVERNOR, ALWAYS GREAT TO TALK
TO YOU THIS MORNING.
REALLY FASCINATING.
THANK YOU.
>> AND THANK YOU, WILL.
GO, COWBOYS.
THEY’RE NOT IN IT SO NEITHER AM
I, THAT’S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT,
AND I KNOW YOU DO TOO.
WILL: I DIDN’T KNOW THAT, AND
NOW OUR RELATIONSHIP QUOS TO A
NEW LEVEL.