STUFF. WHEN I FIRED THAT SLEAZEBAG, ALL
HELL BROKE OUT.
>> Martha: INTERESTING MOMENT
FROM TODAY.
FROM TODAY. JOINING ME NOW, TREY GOWDY.
HE’S THE FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT
CHAIRMAN AND NOW FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
CONTRIBUTOR. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Martha: VERY STRONG WORDS.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MUELLER
REPORT AND THE FISA PROCESS, YOU
CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE IT’S COMING
FROM.
FROM. >> YEAH, PETER STRZOK, THE LEAD
CASE AGENT ON THIS RUSSIA PROBE,
WAS TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING
DONALD TRUMP BEFORE ADAM SCHIFF
AND JERRY NADLER WERE.
LET THAT SINK IN.
THE LEAD AGENT FOR THE ANYBODY
MENTIONED IMPEACHING TRUMP
BEFORE SCHIFF AND NADLER DID.
SO THEN THE FBI CONDUCTS THIS
DEFENSIVE BRIEFING, WHICH IS
REALLY AN INTERVIEW.
THEY SUSPECTED DONALD TRUMP OF
IMPROPRIETY.
IMPROPRIETY. YOU HAVE JAMES COMEY WHO THINKS
IMPEACHMENT IS TOO GOOD FOR HIM.
YOU HAVE JOHN BRENNAN THAT
THINKS SHE SHOULD BE IN THE DUST
PAN OF HISTORY.
YOU HAVE ANDY McCABE LAUNCHED
ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO
TRUMP.
TRUMP. MARTHA, IF I WERE DONALD TRUMP,
I WOULD THINK THE FBI WAS OUT TO
GET ME, TOO.
>> Martha: YOU KNOW, HE ALSO
POINTED OUT THAT WHEN HE FIRED
HIM, IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE
STORY.
STORY. WE ALL COVERED IT.
BUT HE FELT THAT IT WAS
ULTIMATELY THE MOVE THAT SAVED
HIM.
HIM. BECAUSE HE BELIEVED THAT HE WAS
ELIMINATING THE PERSON AT THE
TOP THAT CREATED A CULTURE THAT
WAS AFTER HIM, THAT BELIEVED,
YOU KNOW, BASED ON --
ESSENTIALLY ON THE DOSSIER AND
SOME OTHER THINGS AROUND IT.
THE DOSSIER PAID FOR BY HILLARY
CLINTON AND THE DNC USED THAT TO
CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY
BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE ABOVE
BOARD IN INVESTIGATING THE
PRESIDENT AND HIS CAMPAIGN.
IT IS PRETTY STUNNING WHEN YOU
LOOK BACK AT IT.
>> YEAH, I WOULD CORRECT THE
PRESIDENT’S NARRATIVE ONLY TO
THIS EXTENT.
THIS EXTENT. HE REPLACED COMEY WITH McCABE.
THAT IS HARDLY MOVING UP THE
DRAFT BOARD.
DRAFT BOARD. IT WAS ONLY WHEN CHRIS WRAY CAME
IN THAT YOU HAD AN OBJECTIVE LAW
ENFORCEMENT CENTERED PERSON.
McCABE WAS NO BETTER THAN COMEY.
SO WE HAD TO GET --
>> Martha: HE GOT MOVED UP
BECAUSE HE WAS SORT OF THE NEXT
PERSON AVAILABLE, I GUESS, AT
THAT TIME.
THAT TIME. DO YOU THINK THE CULTURE HAS
CHANGED AT THE FBI?
THERE’S A LOT OF DISCUSSION
ABOUT WHAT IS NEXT.
WHICH PHONE CALL, WHICH --
THERE’S ALREADY INVESTIGATIONS
INTO THE PRESIDENT’S TAXES.
YOU THINK THE CULTURE HAS
CHANGED AT THE TOP?
>> I HOPE SO, MARTHA.
I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW.
I HAVEN’T TALKED TO CHRIS WRAY
SINCE I LEFT CONGRESS.
THOSE OF US, RATCLIFFE AND
OTHERS, FORMER FEDERAL
PROSECUTORS, WE’RE NOT GOING TO
MAKE IT AS A COUNTRY IF PEOPLE
DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE
FBI.
FBI. IT’S BEEN A BAD FOUR YEARS WITH
STRZOK AND McCABE AND BAKER,
PAGE, COMEY.
PAGE, COMEY. IT’S BEEN A TERRIBLE FOUR YEARS
FOR THE WORLD’S PREMIER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. I DIDN’T GET TO WATCH CHRIS’
TESTIMONY THIS WEEK.
I READ SOME ARTICLES.
SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
WEREN’T THAT IMPRESSED WITH THE
CHANGES THAT CHRIS HAS OUTLINED.
BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO SURVIVE
IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T
HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE FBI.