there's another aspect when ra viva kanan is sitting at the feet of ramakrishna
very quickly he lifts the boy up and says look can you kindly study the advaita vedanta now
advaitha is the pinnacle of hindu philosophy let me tell you what it is all about it says look
all these different approaches we adopt in order to get a spiritual experience
they're all marvelous different ways of reaching out but the pinnacle the height of your spiritual
experience is where you and your god are no longer separate you become part of god you see yourself
as god this is not an arrogant comment this is the pinnacle this is where if you like you see this is
the there is all abstractions go away all division go away you become unified with the object of your
devotion that's how this is the pinnacle the height of devotion so when we talk of advaita
we are not talking about the process of becoming spiritual or unfolding spiritually but becoming
one with at your destination reaching your destination hitting your target
that is advaitha now if you went to a westerner and say look you know we've got all these gods
and they're lovely you know this ram is such a lovely chap and this krishna exciting fellow
they said come on go away. you told them you talk to a westerner and say look we are talking of the
thing that is living in all of us as our heart of our hearts our essential nature of the spirit
you are one with god advaith the westerner will immediately put all his stuff on his side and say
please talk to me please talk to me i know there's something special here you are asserting it
it is advaitha that the west is looking for and viva kanan was going to be the carrier of
this strong message of advaith for the west you see buddha was the messenger of spirituality to
the east you see the power of buddha one personality and the message that he gave
became visible throughout all of south asia just one man
put a message that permeated the whole of south asia went up to china japan everywhere south asia
permeated buddhism one messenger viva kanan is the messenger to the west that india is
the fireball that has been thrown to the west by ramakrishna and he comes with a message of
advaitha and the ramakrishna is aware that i have to these guys likes the mother goddess now but
it's not going to help him when he goes to the west he needs to be trained in advaith she said
look my boy you are specially you you are destined to present advaith this highest philosophy hindus
you're going to be that carrier and because this is rubbish i am god this jug of water is god this
glass is god this is rubbish this is people who wrote this must be idiots you're talking of this
one that kind of links all of us this is nonsense advaith it's the same spirit that manifests kind
of appears as the whole of this very creation with all this variation that was in front of a
same one becoming visible as many this is the philosophy the same one appearing as many
this is the philosophy and this narendra is cracking for making fun this is
people who wrote there must be idiots you know i am god the jug is good the cup is good this
is what this is the height of ridicule he was making ridiculing the whole philosophy
and one day this and you see there's a book if anybody knows the best textbook on advaith
philosophy is called ashtavakra samhita very people have read it it is dramatic because
it starts in a very high note it says look your limitation is you think you are limited
your your problem is that you think you need to meditate to find out you are already that
all these are by the way this is how it starts in the very very high note and the moment vivek and i
was asked to read his threw his book away then i'm quite no no no forget about you read it out to me
that's how he made sure that he read the book because then i can't i still understand it he
said no read it out to me i need to listen to it and this is how you force this poor boy to
read out that way to him and he happily was carrying on and making fun of advaith you see
the proof of the pudding in spiritual matters and again i would tell the viewers please be careful
the proof of the feeding pudding in anything true with religion of spirituality is experiential
it must be possible not to just believe there is you know this brahman underpinning everything is
one that appears as many with nice words that we throw and rhetoric that we keep conjuring up
how far can it take us it's not good enough if the spirituality is truly real i must come
face to face with if there is one that under me i want to see what is this one i want to
experience it for myself nothing less will do it must be experiential not purely supposition
not speculation i want it i want to experience this the proof of the pudding is experience if
somebody says god is with form unless i experience god with form how can i believe it how far can i
go with that belief system oh god it can't it won't take me far next morning i'll forget it
i need to come face to face with god with form if god is with form i must come face to face with it
if the way this reality is the real if you like the heart of philosophy there
is one that underpins it i must experience this experience is the proof of the pudding
please please i would tell anybody if anybody talks about spirituality please please
test him out is he talking or is she talking from experience because if you are talking from
experience very novel material will appear from the mouth from the lips because they're not going
to fall back on ancient scriptures oh yes see caught up initially verse number three point 24.
they won't do that the moment they start doing that that means they are really are as blind as
we are if they experience new verses will come out from them new messages will come out very novel
messages no way of explaining spirituality will come out from the lips this is the proof of the
pudding when you have meet a person who is talking of spirituality from experience the language he
will use will be absolutely novel he will use his own vocabulary he will miss he will use words he
will take torture words so that the idea of spiritual becomes visible he will throw out
every he will use every instrument in his in his power to make sure spiritually enters the system
this is the proof of the pudding and this narendra was meant for that so when he was making fun
of advaith ram question when near him oh you're making fun of advaith brahman and all that oh yeah
and he went and touched him never allow a spiritually enlightened person to touch you
because you see your magic forget about harry potter this is real magic when they touch you or
even they glance at you it lifts you up it allows you to fly off from the idea this limited vision
you have about your own self this very narrow way you look at yourself is broken that mould
is broken you fly off the moment he touched him in narendra's words in some ways words he said ah
when he touched me suddenly i looked everywhere i said everything is made out of the same thing
you know like the same kind of cotton that you put in different pillowcases so everything was
like a pillow case with the same stuff inside all of it everything is made out of the same stuff
these are rewards these words you see he was using trying to express his experience
and i couldn't believe it and i said what is happening and then i would go home and i would
think that i am not this body it is as if somebody else's body and my mother would offer me some food
i would start eating and i would not stop at all because i didn't know that i couldn't feel
my bodies i would keep eating sometimes i would eat too much didn't do any harm he said sometimes
i would not eat enough and my mother said this boy is a goner he's going to die because when
you start behaving like that you think something is going serious wrong with the brain he's going
to die or something and she was not very worried he said this experience lasted us for many days
he said when i used to for example walk on the street of kolkata
i would see a horse and carriage rushing towards me and i would say ah same he wanted to embrace
because this is the same one appearing as many he can't see the distinction this is dangerous
and somebody would have to pull him away from the from the street to make sure he doesn't get
crushed he said this lasted for many days he said i would go because the whole thing appeared like
a dream and i said what's going on i'm such a strong will person what is happening to me
because he's losing track of his own being as this body is that i would get those kind
of iron bars and hit my head on it saying is it for real the whole thing appears like is
it this is not my body i'm out of this body and i'm the one appearing as many
now you see i talk like this but unless we have a glimpse of such an experience we can't really
appreciate what this is all about it has to be experiential so this narendra you see when these
arguments fail to convince him about spirituality as the idea of advaith then ram krishna would
use his magic portion of touching him say forget about argument you just know
experience it for yourself this is how they were this highest experience was passed on to
narendra
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