Let’s find out what the performance differences are between the Nvidia RTX 2070 Super Max-Q
and 2080 Super Max-Q graphics.
Starting with the specs, the key difference is that the 2080 has 20% more CUDA cores and
potentially higher boost speeds. They’ve both got the same memory, and in this testing
both also run with the same 80 power watt limit, which is the minimum for these parts.
The laptops I’m testing with are the MSI GS66, and MSI Creator 17. Both have the same
10th gen 8 core Intel CPU and dual channel memory with the same Nvidia drivers. We’ll
start by comparing games, then other applications like 3d rendering, thermals and power draw
afterwards.
Red Dead Redemption 2 was tested using the games built in benchmark tool. I’ve got
the 2070 Super Max-Q down the bottom, and 2080 Super Max-Q up top, those names are too
long so I’m just going to refer to them as 2070 and 2080 respectively going forward.
Anyway at max settings the 2080 was 6% faster.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare was tested running through the same section of the game on both
laptops. The 1% low performance wasn’t that different, however the 2080 was performing
almost 22% better in terms of average FPS, though this was one of the better results
out of all games tested.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider was tested using the games benchmark tool, and the 2080 was
hitting almost 8% higher FPS with the highest setting preset in use.
Battlefield V was tested running through the same part of the game on both machines. In
this test the 2080 was just 6% faster in terms of average FPS with ultra settings, so nothing
major here, and not really enough of a change that you’d be likely to notice.
Ghost Recon Breakpoint was tested with the games built in benchmark. This game saw one
of the smallest differences out of all titles tested, with just a 3.5% higher average frame
rate with the 2080 using the ultra setting preset.
I’ve tested Control by running through the same section of the game with the high setting
preset. There was an 8% higher average frame rate in this title with the 2080, with a lower
5% boost to the 1% low performance.
Borderlands 3 was tested using the games benchmark tool, and again as expected the 2080 is ahead
with a similar 8.5% boost to average FPS with the ultra setting preset.
PUBG was tested using the replay feature, with the exact same replay file used on both
laptops. In this test the 2080 was 7.6% faster in terms of average FPS, and 10% faster in
terms of 1% low.
Rainbow Six Siege was tested using the built in benchmark with Vulkan, and the 2080 saw
an above average 10% higher average FPS.
CS:GO was tested with the Ulletical FPS benchmark, the 2080 was just under 16% faster in average
FPS in this test, but realistically above 300 FPS from either is still excellent.
Overwatch was tested in the practice range as this allows me to perform the exact same
test run, however actual gameplay does perform a bit worse. The 2080 was 8% faster in average
FPS, however there was a larger boost to 1% low, which was 22% ahead.
Assassin’s Creed Odyssey was tested using the games benchmark tool, and there was almost
no difference in this test with very high settings. The results are so close realistically
it’s within margin of error territory even though I am taking the average of 3 test runs.
The Witcher 3 was tested in the same section of the game, the 2080 was 7% faster in average
FPS, and there was a similar change to the 1% low too.
The Division 2 was tested with the games benchmark tool, very similar 1% low performance, but
the 2080 was 7% faster for average FPS.
Far Cry New Dawn was also tested with the games benchmark, there was a below average
6% boost to average FPS with the 2080, but there was a much larger 18% boost to the 1%
low.
These are the differences in performance when looking at all 15 games tested. On average
out of these titles the 2080 super max-q was 8% faster than the 2070 super max-q, at least
when both have the same 80 watt limit. As you can see, the results really depend on
the specific game. For instance there was basically no difference with Assassin’s
Creed, but there was a huge difference in Call of Duty.
Here’s the difference we’re looking at with 3DMark. The performance differences were
very close in this test, at least when compared to the games just shown, for example the 2080
had just a 2% higher Firestrike graphics score, a 7.5% higher Timespy graphics score, and
a higher 9% score for the ray tracing Port Royal test.
I’ve measured total system power draw from the wall while running the Witcher 3 at maximum
settings. The 2080 was using 4% more power while delivering 7% more performance, at least
while both GPUs are running with an 80 watt limit.
I’ve included temperatures because people would complain otherwise, however the MSI
GS66 and Creator 17 I’m testing with have different cooling solutions. With the same
cooling I’d expect the 2080 to be a little warmer as it’s taking more power from the
wall and performing better.
I’ve also run SPECviewperf 13 which is a benchmark for measuring graphics performance
based on professional applications. The results varied quite a bit here, the wins went either
way depending on the specific workload, though the 2080 was ahead in most tests.
Again all testing here was done with 80 watt power limits, so better performance could
be gained with 90w or even 100w variants. Unfortunately this isn’t advertised with
new laptops, so the only way to find out what power limits laptops run at is to watch reviews
like mine. As both laptops have different sized batteries it’s difficult to compare
battery life, however given both will run off of optimus outside of gaming, there probably
won’t be too big of a difference.
At the time of recording, which is before laptops with these specs officially launch,
the MSI GS66 can be pre ordered for $2250 USD for the 2070 Super Max-Q, or $2700 USD
for the same specs but with the 2080 Super Max-Q. This is 20% more money for on average
8% performance in games, there are definitely diminishing returns as you step up to higher
options, for most people the 2070 is likely plenty, so you’ll need to decide if you
want to pay more for less of a performance increase comparatively.
I should also note that the GS66 will perform better than what I’ve shown here, by default
in the best performance mode the GPU gets overclocked, I ran it here without an overclock
as the Creator 17 doesn’t do this to keep things fair at stock.
Anyway I’m definitely interested to hear what you’d go for, if any of these, they
are higher end options and in most cases more than most people would need. Let me know in
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