[EXHALES]
Man, this looks low fi.
You!
Yo!
There's my guy!
Yeah.
Let's go do this interview.
- Yo. - Thank you for having me.
Yeah.
Know what I'm saying?
Just follow the sweet scent of the ganja!
What up, number one show in late night.
You know what it is.
Nothing but illustrious guests.
You know the fucking vibes.
Tonight joining us in the jam room at Milk studios,
we have the one, the only, Pennn Badgley.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
One of the few white people I know by name
and I can identify in a photo.
Give it up to him!
How does that feel?
That feels great.
That feels--
Among the things, I'll take it!
I'll be flipping through the guide, and I'm like, Pennn.
- Penn! - I know him.
That's Bag Pennly.
Everyone's like, yeah, Bag Pennly.
That's also why I keep messing his name up.
I kind of get it.
I mean, you have the syllables.
Close enough.
Rearrange them as you wish.
And the show is You on Netflix.
That's right.
What's your life like now that people know you for being
a killer, and say things on Twitter like, "I cannot
wait for you to murder me."
Yeah, that was actually pretty safe what you just said.
Yeah.
That was pretty PG.
You know, I mean, look.
This stuff is-- this stuff is--
I experience it in a lot of different levels.
You know what I mean?
On one level, it's a lot of fun.
It's really interesting.
On another level, it's quite strange and troubling.
I'm just interested in what it means about us.
What it's reflecting about our culture.
Right.
That's the way I think about it.
How do you guys record it without-- like, is
the set lighthearted or dark?
Actually quite light-hearted, to be honest.
Well, it's-- I mean, as much as possible.
I'm very--
I'm not super method or anything like that.
I love to laugh in between, because otherwise--
We're very method.
I've noticed that.
We just laugh all the time.
That's the method.
That's not what method means!
In the context of comedy, that might be what method is.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Actually we use a different method.
I'm functioning over here.
We use a different method, more Wu-Tang.
Know what I'm saying?
M-E-T-H-O-D acting.
All my 38-year-olds are like, yeah!
Yeah!
Hip hop, hip hop, hip hop.
Yo Meryl, do a turtle.
But yo, switching gears from being
a horrific murderer into something that
is canon in American culture.
Dan Humphrey.
For those of you guys who don't
know who he's talking about. It's something--
- Gossip Girl. - Gossip Girl?
Know what I'm saying?
Ya'll don't know about Gossip Girl, huh?
Stupid.
Go back in the archives, yo, and look that
up because that was important.
Spoiler alert, I'm Gossip Girl.
Whoa!
Know what I'm saying?
That was the whole thing and it was like, yo.
And you know what, I knew, because I was
like, he's the outsider, bruh.
At what point did you know?
Like, I just kind of felt it.
Like, initially, because it was just like,
OK he's the outsider.
He's from Brooklyn.
These are all like debutante rich boys.
Yeah.
But he would-- dude, look at his loft, man.
It's not like he's not rich.
Come on, man.
Your dad's a rock star.
Your dad is a rock star.
But he was the outsider.
And that's actually where I feel like Gossip Girl was
an interesting thing, where it was like he was
like a fantastical sort of escapist vision of privilege
and excess, whereas the show that I'm on now
is deconstructing that, you know?
Oh.
So in your show, a lot of inner monologues.
Hello, you.
Your shirt is faded but fresh.
You like to take care of things.
Mm. It's mostly inner monologue.
Mostly, yeah.
Most days I go to work, I don't have any lines.
- Really, you just sit there? - Actually.
So how do they film that, is it just like this?
We're just all standing there like--
So my stand in, Danny--
shout out to Danny.
He doesn't have a break, because normally
a stand in, when we're shooting, is able to do their thing.
But he has to read my thoughts, so he's always--
he's like-- when Danny has to pee, the production stops.
So wait, you don't read your thoughts.
Everybody needs to know what's hapPenning,
so my stand in reads the lines.
Just for pacing, for--
everything kind of has to hapPenn off of those things.
So it's a very different-- it's very technical.
Like, people.
I thought they shot it and he just went into voiceover.
Yeah, I was about to kill this broad.
So if this was a scene on the show.
Right.
So like--
I'm Danny and you're you.
Yeah, and then you're maybe the person in the scene
with me, right?
So like we're doing the scene.
I stop talking.
You need to say my line for me.
[INTERPOSING VOICES]
--say my line for him.
You stare at him, and I'll be Danny.
Hmm.
Gold chain.
Like to floss your money, but you sPennd it too fast.
You're going to go broke in a couple of years.
A person like you?
You're easy to trick.
Yeah, you know, like, I'm just like--
You don't hear it.
You have to be quiet, man.
Oh, oh, oh.
See, it's harder than it looks!
It's harder than it looks!
I'm gonna murder him because he didn't
hear my internal thoughts.
[LAUGHS]
I'm like, I hear you, mother fucker!
Stop talking about me.
That's the hardest thing for the other actor.
They're hearing themselves be deconstructed,
and they have to just be like--
Can you still walk around in public without--
I do, yeah.
Yeah.
It's not--
I'd say I mean, yeah, I get recognized a lot.
People like, "You!"
[LAUGHS]
Hey, yo, it's you!
Yo!
[SUSPennSEFUL MUSIC]
Hello, you.
Desus, you're literally interviewing me right now,
and I still don't think you know how to pronounce my name,
but it's cool.
Hmm.
It's an impressive beard.
I wonder if our beards fought, which would win.
Your shirt and your shoes.
They're impeccably clean, almost like they've
never been worn before.
Have you saved it for a special occasion?
Am I the special occasion?
Why do you look so uncomfortable?
Damn, what's his name?
Is it Penn Bagly?
Bagly Penn?
Shit.
I did see the show, right?
He's Gossip Girl?
It's a great beard, though.
I wonder if our beards fought, who would win.
Damn, the edibles hitting right now.
Shit.
Bro, I really want some chicken fingers.
Fuck, I gotta fart.
Fuck.
[GROANS]
Oh shit I hope nobody heard that.
Are we done?
Well, it's very hot in here, but we
thank you for coming through.
It was a dope interview.
What would you like your neon sign to say?
All right.
Let your heart burn with loving kindness for all
who may cross your path.
That's fucking lit.
That's deep.
Thank you guys.
Thank you so much.
Badgley, Badgley!
Thank you.