- If you could summarize your opinion towards women.
- Like what I think of them?
- Yes.
- I do think they're very important, but.
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- [Narrator] Some topics are hard to approach.
- [Reporter] More and more male hatred
against women is rising up.
- You might call this a new phenomenon.
- [Narrator] Either the subjects are inaccessible
or people are uncomfortable discussing them.
- You're an ugly guy,
now, you better get a good job and make some money,
'cuz nobody's gonna wanna talk to you.
- Girls, I will destroy you.
- You don't deserve to get laid at all.
- [Narrator] So we found those subjects in person,
rented a space in Hollywood and invited our audience
and any strangers walking by,
to come inside and ask them anything.
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- Okay. Hey, I'm Brendio, I also go by Derrick.
I'm an incel,
and I'm here to answer people's questions about the topic.
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- I can start?
Hi, how are you?
- Hi. I'm good.
- So you're an incel?
- [Derrick] Yes.
- Why would you ever sign up to do this?
- I suppose I would want to give more of a positive light
on this community, which has a very negative light upon it.
- Okay. And do you think that's a good thing?
- Yes. - Why is that?
- Because a lot of the boys in this community
aren't bad people.
- But you acknowledge that a good handful of them are right?
- Not a good handful. I would say a small handful.
- Who hurt you or what happened?
What event sort of catalyzed this way of thinking
and you getting into this kind of research?
- Society.
- Do you hate women?
- No.
- No? - No.
- Do you have a female role model in your life?
- A female role model?
- Yeah, like a mom or an aunt or a friend?
- I mean, I love my mom.
I wouldn't necessarily consider her a role model,
but I do love her quite a bit.
- If a woman was elected as president of the United States,
how would you react?
- I don't know. It probably would depend on the woman.
I probably wouldn't be supportive of it honestly, but.
- Why do you say that, if you don't mind me asking?
- I do think that, you know,
men should be the leaders and women should be the caregivers
and the, you know, the loving, supporting,
and the teachers in some cases.
- Since women of color or just women in general
have been oppressed by certain systems
and other oppressed communities,
especially the LGBTQ+, all those,
those don't really fit with the spectrum
that incels or you have been talking about.
So why do you think your method of thought
would help fix what we have today?
- I probably wouldn't view the things
that you might view as oppression, as oppression.
I have a feeling.
I would view it more as how we treat children that we love.
We we control them, but we control them lovingly.
Not as a slave,
not as we're forcing them to do things against their will.
I would view it more as a loving domestic thing in the past.
And I would say that if we were to do it in a civilized way,
maybe in a more, even a Christian way,
even though I'm not really advocating
for a certain religion or ideology,
I would assume that women would probably be happier.
And I wouldn't just assume that blindly.
I would assume that based on the data that I have seen.
- What data have you seen
that has brought you to this conclusion?
Because I'm now curious where I can get this data from.
- I couldn't reference it offhand,
but I believe there was a study that,
I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head.
- Okay.
- What do you think it is about liberal areas
that create behavior in women that you think is a problem?
- Promiscuity leads to increased standards
in more primitive aspects, such as looks,
and that typically makes it harder
for some people to find a relationship,
including sometimes good looking people.
There's guys who are much better looking than I am,
who are having a really hard time finding someone
in a place like LA or in London or in Auckland, New Zealand.
But they probably would have a perfectly fine time
finding a woman somewhere else.
- So you think that promiscuity is the problem
and if people were more monogamous and more withholding
that would sort of fix society?
- Yeah, I suppose if people were more traditionalist.
- There have been a few mass shootings in the past,
where these shooters actually stated that they were incels
or were radicalized by online incels.
What do you think about their actions?
- I condemn their actions.
I don't believe violence is the solution.
I don't believe attacking random people
is gonna fix anything, whether they're,
you know, women or men.
I do think that the reason why they committed those actions
was probably because of, out of desperation,
or out of, you know mental problems
that probably could have been prevented,
had the right support was in their in their community,
in their household, you know,
if people, you know, saw what they were posting
and saw what they were experiencing in life
and did something to help them.
- Was there like a pivotal moment in your life,
like a straw that broke the metaphorical camel's back?
- You know, this constant years of rejection,
no matter who the person was,
constant years of rejection in other aspects of my life,
it did kind of push me towards more,
I suppose, radical beliefs.
But I suppose they're only like radical,
but they're more just old beliefs really.
- No, it sounds like, I had another metaphor,
like death by a thousand cuts, you know,
it's not one pivotal moment,
but it sounds like a bunch of things built up over time.
- [Derrick] Yeah.
- One of the common criticisms about the incel community
is that you feel entitled to sex or intimacy.
Do you believe that you deserve sex
or intimacy from a woman?
- I think everybody at some level deserves
someone that they,
someone that loves them and, you know, respects them.
As long as you are also loving
and respectful towards that person, you know,
they're an equal, you know,
you're not like seeking someone beyond yourself, you know,
if you don't have like too high standards I suppose,
you know.
- If you can tell the world about something,
about being incel that, you know,
that may not be on the internet,
or that's overlooked heavily, what would it be?
- I don't know.
I think it's mostly that most of the men
are not inherently bad people.
A lot of them are just lonely.
They just need some help really.
- Okay.
Would you say that there's anything
that other people can do to help guide,
or just support or anything?
- You know, the lonely person in your class
or the lonely person in your workplace,
maybe he's an incel and he's not letting you know,
and he's just kind of afraid to, he wants someone positive.
Just be nice, say hi, try and make friends with him.
You don't have to date him, you don't have to whatever.
Just, you know brighten up someone lonely's day, I suppose.
- Oh okay. Noted. Thank you.
- You don't wanna be an incel?
- No. - Why not?
- Well, I mean, it's part of the whole involuntarily thing.
I mean, you know, you wanna try and escape it.
You want to be something better, you know,
you wanna get a wife, get a girlfriend,
get someone who loves you.
Spend your life with them and be happy.
- What's one thing
you wish people understood better about you?
- I don't know.
I guess how people,
I wish people would recognize how much effort I'm trying,
I suppose like, you know, I'm working out typically daily.
I've lost over a hundred pounds.
I'm out there job hunting actively.
I don't think people recognize how much effort
the incels in general try to put into bettering themselves.
I would say, you know, people don't recognize their effort.
They just assume that they're all like lazy
and sad and angry at women
and just giving up and things of that nature, I suppose.
- Okay.
- You don't have to see the bad things in the world
and then come out a bad person.
You can just see the bad things in the world
and then improve upon yourself because of them, I suppose.
- Okay. So you do have hope?
- Yeah, I have hope. Yeah.
I'm a very hopeful person, I suppose.
- I won't lie this one a lot differently
than I thought it would.
I thought we'd be yelling at each other, you know.
- It was nice to meet you.
- It was nice to meet you too.
- [Off Camera] Thank you so much.
- Thank you so much. - [Off Camera] Cutting.
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