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>>> >> MAYBE THE BATHROOM BILL WILL BE FINALLY THINK OF THE PAST.
MANY NORTH CAROLINA PUBLIC
HOLDINGS DECISIONS COULD INPUT
HAS BEEN AN UGLY LAWSUIT BY
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE AGAINST
NORTH CAROLINA'S SO-CALLED
BATHROOM BILL AND THE LAW THAT
REPLACED IT.
THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
PLAINTIFFS AND THE GOVERNOR
SAYS THAT NOTHING IN THE STATE
LAW CAN BE ENTERED TO PREVENT
TRANSGENDER PEOPLE FROM USING
PUBLIC FACILITIES IN ACCORDANCE
TO THEIR GENDER IDENTITY.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL MANDRAKE YOU
ARE AROUND PART OF THIS SEVERAL
YEARS AGO WHEN IT FIRST STARTED
WAS THIS WORTH IT?>> I NEVER
THOUGHT OF.
I'M IN THE NIGHT THAT COUNSEL
PASS THE ORDINANCE I SAID GUYS
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN.>> I THINK YOU
ARE PREPARED FOR WHAT THE
REPUBLICAN GET DEPOSITED?
IT WAS OUT OF THE ACTING A
REACTION I HAVE BEEN TOLD AND
THE GOVERNOR TOLD ME YOU'RE
GOING TO GET A BACKLASH.
I DID NOT EXPECT EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENED OR HOW BAD IT WOULD
GET IN TERMS OF THE NATIONAL
PERCENT OF CHARLOTTE BUT I KNEW
THAT THEY WILL NOT PASS THIS
ORDINANCE AND THAT EVERYTHING
WOULD SEEM TO BE HAPPY AND
FINE.
HAS TAKEN US ALL THIS TIME, TO
KIND OF NAVIGATE OUT.
WE HAD AN INTERN MEASURED TO
142 AND THEN WITHIN THE
TIMELINE ESTABLISHED BY 142 WE
HAVE REACHED A RESOLUTION.
I DO NOT THINK THAT THE
APPETITE IS THERE TO RESUME
THIS FIGHT SO I HOPE THAT WE
CAN KIND OF ENJOY THE RECOVERY
THAT WE HAVE HAD FROM THOSE
YEARS.
AND MOVE FORWARD.
IT WAS ONE OF THE LESSONS
LEARNED FROM THIS?
IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSE
OF THE LOSS IF YOU TALK ABOUT
THE BAD BLOOD BETWEEN CHARLOTTE
THAT WAS CREATED BY THIS A
REMINDER THAT THERE IS NOT ANY
STATISTICAL INFORMATION THAT
SAYS THAT THERE WAS REALLY A
PROBLEM.
THIS WAS NEVER AN ISSUE.
WHAT IS THE TAKE AWAY FROM
THIS?
>> I THINK REALLY THE WHOLE
PROCESS WAS A WASTE OF TIME AND
IT REALLY JUST TARNISHED PART
OF CHARLOTTE IMAGE SO I THINK
REALLY FOCUSING ON JUST
ACCESSIBILITY AND QUALITY FOR
EVERYBODY.
AND FORGETTING ABOUT THE
NITPICKY DETAILS ABOUT
EVERYTHING ELSE AND JUST
ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THAT THESE
THINGS DO NOT OCCUR ON A NORMAL
BASIS.
AND WE REALLY JUST NEED TO GET
OVER THE ARGUMENT AND IT SHOULD
NOT BE THERE IN THE FIRST
PLACE.>> I DO NOT THINK IT WAS
A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE I
BELIEVE THAT WE COULD HAVE
LEARNED A LOT DURING THIS
PROCESS.
AND WE LEARNED GOOD THINGS, AND
WE LEARNED THINGS THAT WERE NOT
SO GOOD GOOD WE LEARNED BOTH
SIDES USE THE ISSUE TO RAISE AN
ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AS OPPOSED TO SPENDING THE TIME
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
I DO THINK THAT I'M GLAD ABOUT
THIS NEW LEGISLATION FOR
TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS TO BE
ABLE TO USE STATE BUILDINGS AND
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE
WELCOME.
AND I THINK THIS IS A SMALL
AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE.
BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE DID HAVE
THIS HAPPEN.
I THINK THAT WE CERTAINLY DID
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OURSELVES
AND OUR NEIGHBORS AND THEIR
UNDERSTANDING FOR THE NEED FOR
THIS AND THE INTEREST ENDING OF
HOW THIS TRANSGENDER NEIGHBORS
HOW THEY FELT AND I THINK THAT
A HEIGHTENED THAT SO WE ARE
MORE AWARE THAT THEY DO FEEL
THAT THEY ARE ISOLATED AND THEY
DO FEEL NOT WELCOME.
AND THAT IS NOT GOOD.
I THINK THAT IS ONE THING THAT
CAME OF IT DID
>> ALL RIGHT, SWITCHING GEARS
NOW THIS PAST WEEK WE HAD A
REALLY NICE WEATHER IT WAS
AMAZING FOR JULY IN CHARLOTTE
THE WEEK BEFORE WAS IN THE 90s
ALL WEEK LONG.
WE HAD A LOT OF WHAT YOU SORRY
THERE IS SIX DEGREES THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SURETY
SAYS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD AVOID
AIR CONDITIONING AND HEAT
EXHAUSTION BUT A COOLING CENTER
HASN'T BEEN OPEN SINCE JULY
2012 THE COUNTY MANAGER TOLD
THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER THAT
THERE WAS NOT REALLY A NEED FOR
IT WHEN EXPERTS SAY THAT PEOPLE
DO NOT OFTEN RECOGNIZE THE
ACTUAL DANGER HERE.
IT IS ACTIONABLE AND RELATED
DEATH ACROSS THE U.S. EVERY
SINGLE YEAR.
I MEAN, IT IS GARY AS A
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTY
HERE WE NEEDED THOSE COOLING
FACILITIES OR>> OUT PER SE
WORDS MATTER.
AND I DO NOT THINK THE KIND OF
MANAGER THAT USE THE BEST WORDS
THERE.
I MEAN ONE THING THAT I WISH
THAT SHE WOULD HAVE SAID IS
THAT THIS IS NOT EXACTLY 100 %
OF THE COUNTY.
WE WORK WITH THE CITY AND
PARTNERS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
TO SOLVE ISSUES LIKE THIS AND
IT IS LED BY THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT AS I BELIEVE., ONE
THING THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE
IS WE HAVE GIVEN SOME EMERGENCY
MONEY TO THE SHELTERS SO THAT
THEY COULD HAVE STAFFING DURING
THE DAY TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO
COME IN.
WE HAVE YOU KNOW ALSO GIVEN OUT
OUR PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT AND
WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS YOU
KNOW I WISH WE HAD OPENED UP
THE PLACE YES I DO.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A JOINT
DECISION WITH THE CITY AND
SHELTERS AND OTHER PARTNERS
WITH THE SAME THING WITH THE
HEAT AND IN THE COLD AND
CERTAINLY I WAS OUT FRONT IN
THE WINTERTIME COMPLAINING
ABOUT THE POLICY THAT HAD TO BE
11 DEGREES.
THAT WAS CRAZY.>> REGARDLESS OF
WHO IT IS WE ARE THE EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT OFFICE I THINK IT IS
KIND OF APPALLING THAT WE DON'T
HAVE THIS AND THOSE OF THE
CHARLOTTE OBSERVER ARTICLE IS
TO HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO
TELL OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS TO
GO TO REC CENTERS AND GO TO
PUBLIC LIBRARIES BUT I MEAN
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THERE IS
THIS PERCEPTION ABOUT THE
HOMELESS THAT PEOPLE WILL KICK
THEM OUT IF THEY DO NOT THINK
THAT THEY'RE BEING PRODUCTIVE
IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
EVEN IF THEY ARE THERE TO GET
THE MAIN SERVICES SO I THINK
REGARDLESS OF WHO IS IN CHARGE
OF IT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS
ON IT.
THAT FOCUSING AND COOLING
BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE DIED OF
HEATSTROKE IN THE PAST THAT WE