ULTIMATELY, THIS IS ABOUT WHO WE
ARE AS A NATION.
>> JOINING ME NOW, I AM SO
GRATEFUL TO SAY MY DEAR FRIEND
AND HOST OF "THE REID OUT"
MSNBC’S JOY REID.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING UP
AND JOINING ME ON A SATURDAY
AFTER ALL WEEK, AND I AM GLAD TO
HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
I WILL ONLY KEEP 37% OF THE
GROUP CHAT PUBLIC HERE AS WE
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE
TRENDING TOPICS.
I FIRST WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT
THIS INCREDIBLY SAD SITUATION
HAPPENING IN GEORGIA, AND REALLY
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WITH THE
VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR FRIENDS IN
THE ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
YOUR SHOW "THE REID OUT" HAS
DONE ITS PART TO KEEP IT AT THE
FOREFRONT AND YOU’VE KEPT
DIVERSE VOICES AT THE FOREFRONT.
I WANT TO PLAY A CHIP ROY SOUND
BITE FOR YOU SO YOU CAN HEAR
WHAT HE SAID AND GET YOUR
REACTION TO IT.
>> WE BELIEVE IN JUSTICE, RIGHT?
THERE’S AN OLD SAYING IN TEXAS
FIND ALL OF THE ROPE IN TEXAS
AND GET A TALL OAK TREE.
YOU KNOW, WE TAKE JUSTICE VERY
SERIOUSLY AND WE OUGHT TO DO
THAT.
ROUND UP THE BAD GUYS.
>> I MEAN, HOMEBOY HAPPENED TO
OFFEND EVERY COMMUNITY HE
POSSIBLY COULD IN THAT SOUND
BITE.
I’M DISGUSTED BY THOSE COMMENTS
AND BY HIM.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> FIRST OF ALL, A SISTER
PRIVILEGE AND SAY I HAVEN’T HAD
A CHANCE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON
AIR FOR "THE CROSS CONNECTION,"
NORMALLY I’M PRONE IN MY BED
WATCHING, BUT I AM WATCHING.
I WATCH "VELSHI" AND THEN I
WATCH YOU AND SUNDAYS I WATCH
JONATHAN, BUT ALWAYS IN BED.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I AM PROUD TO BE HERE AND I’M
PROUD OF YOU AND LOVE THE SHOW.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YEAH.
-- OF COURSE, NO, IT’S BEEN AN
INTERESTING WEEK BECAUSE I THINK
WE’VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CLARITY,
RIGHT?
ONE THING THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS
TO GET CREDIT FOR IS HE’S
CREATED A LOT OF CLARITY AND
THERE’S NO MORE OBFUSCATION
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT REPUBLICANS
WANT TO BE COMPASSIONATE
CONSERVATIVES ONE MINUTE OR THEY
WANT TO BE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES.
ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN WIPED AWAY.
SO THE CORE OR THE ID IS NOW OUT
AND WHAT CHIP ROY DID IS HE
SPOKE THE ID.
HE IS FROM TEXAS.
HE’S FROM A STATE THAT IS
ALREADY REACHING THE CRITICAL
MASS OF DIVERSITY THAT THE WHOLE
COUNTRY IS GOING TO REACH AND
THE REACTION IN YOUR PREVIOUS
INTERVIEW TALKING ABOUT VOTER
SUPPRESSION, WHAT THE REACTION
HAS BEEN IS WE HAVE TO SUPPRESS
THESE EMERGING COMMUNITIES.
WE CAN’T LET THEM VOTE.
WE CAN’T LET THEM GAIN POWER AND
WE HAVE TO STOP THERE FROM BEING
ANOTHER BARACK OBAMA, BUT
ASIAN-AMERICANS, THEY’RE OFTEN
LEFT OUT ABOUT THE CONVERSATION
ABOUT RACISM.
THEY’RE JUST LEFT OUT EVEN
THOUGH ONE OF THE BIGGEST MASS
LYNCHINGS IN U.S. HISTORY WAS
AGAINST ASIANS IN THE 1870s WHEN
A RUMOR SPARKED THAT CHINESE
IMMIGRANTS WERE KILLING WHITE
FOLKS IN THE 1870s.
IN A MASS, 500 WHITE MEN SHOWED
UP IN CHINATOWN IN CALIFORNIA,
OLD CHINATOWN AND JUST STARTED
HANGING AND SHOOTING AND KILLING
CHINESE IMMIGRANTS.
THAT HISTORY OF LYNCHING
INCLUDING CHINESE PEOPLE, IT
INCLUDES ASIAN PEOPLE.
>> YEAH.
>> IT INCLUDES JAPANESE-AMERICAN
INTERNMENT.
SO WE’RE HAVING THIS WHOLE BROAD
CONVERSATION ABOUT RACISM AND
HATE THAT I THINK IS BECAUSE
DONALD TRUMP MADE EVERYTHING
THAT WAS COVERT OVERT AND --
YEAH.
I THINK WHAT CHIP ROY SAID IS
REPULSIVE.
HE DIDN’T APOLOGIZE FOR IT AND
HE DOUBLED DOWN AND HE SAID IF
YOU DON’T LIKE IT, TOO BAD,
BECAUSE I SAID IT.
>> IT’S NOT SURPRISING,
HONESTLY, JOY.
I’M CURIOUS FOR YOU I KNOW IN MY
INBOX AND TIMELINESS, THERE’S A
LOT OF HORIZONTAL HATE.
DON’T INCLUDE ASIAN-AMERICANS
AND THEY’RE NOT PEOPLE OF COLOR
AND THEY DON’T STAND WITH BLACK
PEOPLE.
I HAVE TO SAY IT’S NOT TRUE.
I’VE WORKED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE
IN THE ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY
WHO ARE COMBATTING ANTI-BLACK
SENTIMENT WHO ARE STANDING IN
SOLIDARITY WITH BLACK LIVES
MATTER.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE THAT
THERE CANNOT BE SPACE IN YOUR
HEART TO CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE
IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> PART OF MY KIND OF SORT OF --
YOU KNOW, SECRET SAUCE THAT I’VE
HAD IS BORN OF THEFT, A FORMER
"A.M. JOY" PRODUCER THAT YOU
KNOW VERY WELL, KY MA WHO IS ONE
OF OUR PRODUCERS ON "THE REID
OUT" HAS PRODUCED THE SEGMENTS
THAT WOOEE’VE DONE ON THE
MASSACRE -- THE ATLANTA
MASSACRE.
SHE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT -- I
KNOW YOU KNOW HER, AS WELL,
ABOUT THIS INTERSECTIONAL
CONVERSATION BECAUSE THERE IS A
HISTORY OF INTRAETHNIC
COMBATIVENESS BETWEEN VARIOUS
COMMUNITIES INCLUDING SEVERAL
PARTS OF THE ASIAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITY AND PARTS OF THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN GO ALL OF THE WAY BACK
TO THE SORT OF RODNEY KING ERA
WHEN YOU HAD THESE INCIDENTS
BETWEEN GROCERS OF KOREAN
DESCENT AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
YOU HAD THAT IN NEW YORK.
YOU HAD THIS SORT OF TENSION
BETWEEN BROWN AND BLACK
COMMUNITIES AND THIS HAS
HAPPENED ALL THROUGHOUT HISTORY
BECAUSE ON.
>> RIGHT.
>> -- THE EASIEST WAY TO KEEP
PEOPLE OF COLOR FROM MASSING
TOGETHER TO DEMAND RIGHTS AS A
COLLECTIVE IS TO KEEP THEM
FIGHTING AND THE WAY AMERICA HAS
WORKED HAS KEPT US FIGHTING
REALLY, REALLY WELL AND THEY’VE
DONE A GOOD JOB AT KEEPING US AT
EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF THE
COLLECTIVE AND THAT HAS CHANGED
A LOT.
THERE’S A LOT OF INTERSECTIONAL
CONVERSATION THAT’S HAPPENED
BETWEEN BLACK AND ASIAN FOLKS
AND IT’S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THIS
RISE IN VIOLENCE.
I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE SPARK OF
ASIAN-AMERICAN VIOLENCE BECAUSE
QUESTLOVE WAS POSTING ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH.
>> QUESTLOVE FROM THE ROOTS, HE
WAS POSTING ABOUT IT AND HE WAS
SAYING WE’VE GOT TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, REVEREND AL SHARPTON,
MY BIG BROTHER REVEREND AL AND
FELLOW HOST ON MSNBC HAS TALKED
A LOT ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONAL,
BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT
WHATEVER SIDEWAYS CONVERSATIONS
ARE HAPPENING ABOUT WHETHER
WE’VE NOT BEEN PROPER ALLIES IN
THE PAST, THE BIGGER PICTURE IS
THAT WHITE SUPREMACY UNITES US
BECAUSE IT’S TARGETING ALL OF
US.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> AND WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER
AND I THINK THAT YOU’VE SEEN A