WELCOME BACK. EARLIER I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK
TO NED BRIAN, CEO OF AMERICAN
MAJORITY AND AUTHOR OF THE NEW
BOOK RESTORING OUR PUBLIC
ABOUT THE OPPRESSIVE STATE AND
WHAT WE CAN DO TO BREAK IT
UP.
UP. JOINING ME NOW THAT BRIAN.
I’M SO EXCITED TO TALK TO
ABOUT THIS BOOK BECAUSE I
THINK IT GOES TO THE HEART, SO
MANY ISSUES THAT WE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT ON THIS SHOW AND
REALLY SINCE BEGINNING OF THE
SHOW AND WHAT I DESCRIBE AS
POSITIVE POPULISM AND WHAT
BECOMES A HISTORICAL
BACKGROUND TO THIS BOOK.
>> IT HAD TO DO WITH THIS.
[INAUDIBLE]
[INAUDIBLE] TO EVEN KNOW WHERE WOULD COME
FROM.
FROM. WE REALLY WANTED TO LAY OUT
THE GENESIS FOR THE AMERICAN
REPUBLIC.
REPUBLIC. WHERE DID THE FOUNDERS FIND
THE VISION, WHERE DID THEY GET
THE IDEA, HOW DO THEY
CONSTRUCT THE MACHINERY OF THE
REPUBLIC WHICH I WOULD LOVE TO
DISCUSS MORE ABOUT.
IT KIND OF DOES LAY THE
GROUNDWORK AND IN THE FIRST
CHAPTER EXPLAIN THAT IT HELPS
US UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE
EXPERIENCING TODAY WHEN
PROGRESSIVES.
PROGRESSIVES. [INAUDIBLE]
[INAUDIBLE] >> AT SUCH AN IMPORTANT STEP
IN THE ARGUMENT.
WHO DO YOU MEAN BY THE
PROGRESSIVE.
PROGRESSIVE. >> THE PROGRESSIVES, THE
MOVEMENT THAT BEGAN LATE 1900S
AND THEY’RE ALL GOVERNING
PHILOSOPHY WAS TO BUILD A
MASSIVE BUREAUCRACY TO ADVANCE
PROGRESS.
PROGRESS. I CALLED THEM OPTIMISTIC
REALISTS.
REALISTS. HUMAN NATURE SHOULD NEVER BE
TRUSTED WITH CONSOLIDATED
POWER BUT IF THEY COULD CREATE
A GOVERNMENT POWER FOR ENOUGH
TO BE A STEWARD OF ART RIGHTS
BUT NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH TO
TAKE THEM AWAY.
>> WHERE THEY PUT THEIR
FAITH.
FAITH. [INAUDIBLE]
[INAUDIBLE] >> YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRAW A
LINE BETWEEN WOODROW WILSON
AND THE COLONEL IN THIS WHOLE
PHILOSOPHY.
PHILOSOPHY. >> I’M NOT SURE ANYONE HAS
DONE THAT.
DONE THAT. I CALL THE PROGRESSIVES
UTOPIAN STATE.
UTOPIAN STATE. THEY WERE INCORRECT ON THE
IMPERFECT HUMAN NATURE AND
THEY BELIEVE YOU SHOULD
CONSOLIDATE POWER FOR
PROGRESS.
PROGRESS. >> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IS
SOMETHING REALLY CLOSE TO MY
HEART AND FUNDAMENTALLY
ANTIDEMOCRATIC BECAUSE IT
MEANS ALL THESE DECISIONS ARE
MADE BY THE EXPERTS OR THAT
THEIR APPOINTED RATHER THAN
PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM.
THEY’RE TWO VERY DIFFERENT
GOVERNING PHILOSOPHIES.
GOVERNING PHILOSOPHIES. ASK YOURSELF WHY THE JUDICIAL
BRANCH AND THE GUARDIANS ALLOW
THIS TO HAPPEN.
>> WELL IS KIND OF THE WHOLE
PROCESS IN WHICH I BELIEVE THE
LEGISLATIVE EXECUTIVE AND EVEN
THE JUDICIAL AS PART OF THE
IDEALS.
IDEALS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY,
BUT IT WAS REALLY THE
EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE
HEATING POWER TO THIS
ADMINISTERED OF STATE.
THIS IS WHAT I EXPLAINED
PEOPLE, WHEN YOU GIVE THIS
BUREAUCRACY SO MUCH POWER, ALL
OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING MAKE SO
MUCH SENSE.
MUCH SENSE. WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND A POWERFUL
ADMINISTRATIVE STATE THINK
THEY DECIDE.
THEY DECIDE. DONALD TRUMP, WHEN HE SHOWED
UP, HE WAS ALL POWER FOR THE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTOR SAID
WE DON’T THINK SO.
WERE THE ONES THAT DECIDE.
>> I’M SO EXCITED TO HEAR YOU
SPEAK LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT
CAPTURES THAT FEELING THAT
PEOPLE HAD WHICH IS WHY THEY
ELECTED HIM, UP UNTIL THEN, IT
FELT LIKE IT DOESN’T MATTER
WHO WE VOTE FOR.
YOU GET THE SAME POLICY.
>> I LAID THIS OUT IN THE
OPENING CHAPTER OF THE BOOK.
THE ACTORS AND MANY IN D.C.
WHO FIND DEMOCRACY WILDLY
INCONVENIENT, THE ELECTIONS
ARE BASED ON A CALENDAR THAT
COME AND GO BUT THEY REMAIN
AND THEY STAY.
I’VE HAD THEM TELL POLITICAL
APPOINTEES YOU WILL COME AND
GO BUT WE WILL STILL BE HERE
MAKING DECISIONS AFTER YOU
GO.
GO. >> WILL WILL HAVE LOTS MORE
TIME TO GET INTO ALL OF THIS
BUT WERE SHORT OF TIME NOW.
I JUST WANT YOU TO TELL ME
QUICKLY, WHAT’S THE
RECOMMENDATION, WHAT’S YOUR
SIMPLE SOLUTION TO DEALING
WITH THE ADMINISTERED OF
STATE.
STATE. >> DONALD TRUMP, HE WANTS TO
TURN THE FOUNDATION OF THE
SWAMP, I THINK THE ONLY WAY
YOU CAN RESTORE THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC IS TO BREAK APART AND
IN THE LAST CHAPTER, YOU’VE
GOT UP BREAK THIS UP AROUND
VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
YOU GOTTA MOVE IT OUT.
GOTTA TAKE THESE EMPLOYEES AND
MIGRATE THEM INTO THE PRIVATE
SECTOR.
SECTOR. THERE ARE SOME REFORMS IN THIS
LAST CHAPTER BUT I ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW
WHERE WE CAME FROM, HOW FAR
WE’VE DRIFTED.
WE’VE DRIFTED. >> I AM SO EXCITED, I REALLY
CAN’T WAIT TO GET INTO THE
DETAIL OF ALL THAT, ESPECIALLY
AT ASSAULT ON THE
ADMINISTRATIVE STATE AND HOW
WE TRY AND ADVANCE THAT CAUSE
PARTICULARLY THINKING ABOUT
WHAT COULD WELL BE A SECOND